 Do You?? (by Melinda [MD]) Feb 12, 2019 3:09 PM
 Do You?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 12, 2019 3:17 PM
Do You?? (by Ken [NY]) Feb 12, 2019 3:28 PM
Do You?? (by Jason [VA]) Feb 12, 2019 3:46 PM
Do You?? (by Larry [TX]) Feb 12, 2019 3:56 PM
Do You?? (by Taz [CT]) Feb 12, 2019 4:03 PM
Do You?? (by Vee [OH]) Feb 12, 2019 4:21 PM
Do You?? (by Paulio [PA]) Feb 12, 2019 4:31 PM
Do You?? (by small potatoes [NY]) Feb 12, 2019 4:50 PM
Do You?? (by DJ [VA]) Feb 12, 2019 4:51 PM
Do You?? (by plenty [MO]) Feb 12, 2019 4:53 PM
Do You?? (by Jason [VA]) Feb 12, 2019 5:04 PM
Do You?? (by Nellie [ME]) Feb 12, 2019 5:23 PM
Do You?? (by fred [CA]) Feb 12, 2019 6:07 PM
Do You?? (by Dave [MO]) Feb 12, 2019 6:15 PM
Do You?? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Feb 12, 2019 6:28 PM
Do You?? (by ned [AL]) Feb 12, 2019 6:45 PM
Do You?? (by Robin [WI]) Feb 12, 2019 6:59 PM
Do You?? (by CJ [MO]) Feb 12, 2019 7:26 PM
Do You?? (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 12, 2019 8:36 PM
Do You?? (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Feb 13, 2019 4:36 AM
Do You?? (by GKARL [PA]) Feb 13, 2019 5:37 AM
Do You?? (by WMH [NC]) Feb 13, 2019 6:06 AM
Do You?? (by OKHMBLDR [OK]) Feb 13, 2019 6:16 AM
Do You?? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Feb 13, 2019 6:18 AM
Do You?? (by S i d [MO]) Feb 13, 2019 6:28 AM
Do You?? (by AllyM [NJ]) Feb 13, 2019 6:41 AM
Do You?? (by WMH [NC]) Feb 13, 2019 7:03 AM
Do You?? (by Doogie [KS]) Feb 13, 2019 7:50 AM
Do You?? (by 6x6 [TN]) Feb 13, 2019 10:31 AM
Do You?? (by Kim [TX]) Feb 13, 2019 12:05 PM
Do You?? (by Busy [WI]) Feb 13, 2019 12:12 PM
Do You?? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 13, 2019 3:12 PM
Do You?? (by 6x6 [TN]) Feb 13, 2019 3:41 PM
Do You?? (by melinda [MD]) Feb 13, 2019 4:29 PM
Do You?? (by Sarah [FL]) Feb 13, 2019 4:43 PM
Do You?? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Feb 14, 2019 7:41 AM
Do You?? (by Busy [WI]) Feb 14, 2019 8:01 AM
Do You?? (by Wilma [PA]) Feb 14, 2019 11:38 AM
Do You?? (by Sue [MI]) Feb 15, 2019 8:46 AM
Do You?? (by Lynda [TX]) Feb 16, 2019 9:20 PM
Do You?? (by Laura [MD]) Feb 19, 2019 9:35 AM
Do You?? (by Melinda [MD]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:09 PM
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I just showed a nice 3 level townhouse in a very desirable community to a referral by my handyman. We knew in advance that he was on Sec.8. Fellow is divorced with 3 small kids 3-10 years old. Not working. No vehicle. Had a friend drive him to the appointment. Well, here's the plan---Sec 8 for housing, TCA (temporary cash assistance which he says can last for 5 years), and help with paying the utilities. Suppose he also receives food stamps. Very informed with what benefits he can get. I looked up his record online for legal issues---domestic violence, petty theft and driving without a license. I just have a BIG problem with a 31 year old man sitting at home with his kids in my home while getting all of these benefits. Oh yes, Dept. of Social Services is paying his deposit...... Please give me your critique of this man/situation. I am not real thrilled with it, but I do need to get the place rented. Thanks. --24.233.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:17 PM
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Melinda,
Deep down, you know this is not the tenant you want. Since this is a nice neighborhood, is this applicant the best you can find? Just keep looking, something better will show up sooner or later. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:28 PM
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He is a bum,i wouldn't rent anything nice to him --72.231.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:46 PM
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Why in the world would you even consider this?!
No!
How many more red flags do you want? Are you trying to beat a record? --73.177.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by Larry [TX]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:56 PM
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Absolutely not! The guy is a bum and a con artist I’m sure. --73.166.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Taz [CT]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:03 PM
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Nightmare waiting to happen. --32.211.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:21 PM
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Prolly should inhale near the coffee maker, then re-read what you posted - this would be a nightmare in bright sunshine, if you have a large lottery win you could do this to avoid paying taxes, send me the rest.
--76.188.xxx.x |
Do You?? (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:31 PM
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What everybody else said. No way. --74.47.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:50 PM
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are you clouded by the handyman referral? It is not worth it. It is cheaper to keep it empty than to put in someone who you will have to remove. Can't imagine this person meets your screening criteria. Prolly file benefits for all the children too. --24.194.xx.xx |
Do You?? (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:51 PM
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(Imagine size 100 font, bold) NO!, NO!, NO! --68.10.xxx.x |
Do You?? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:53 PM
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Wrong property for this referral. No. You are not doing this with this property. --99.203.xx.xx |
Do You?? (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:04 PM
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Man that guy musta been one helluva talker to even be considered. They don’t call them con artists for nothing. --73.177.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:23 PM
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Do You?? (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:07 PM
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I've said this years ago and it's true today: A vacant home is not good, but a bad tenant is worse. --99.59.x.xxx |
Do You?? (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:15 PM
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What, Fred said. --173.216.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:28 PM
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You already know the answer or you wouldn't have asked.
Pass on this guy. --12.235.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by ned [AL]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:45 PM
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Do You?? (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:59 PM
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I'm just wondering, would you feel any different if it were a single mom?
Sec.8 alone would be the disqualifier for me. If it's in a very desirable neighborhood, you don't need to stoop that low. --204.210.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 7:26 PM
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No. Can not stand with people not go to work with so much time to cause other people problems. --97.91.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 8:36 PM
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I didn't know Melinda that you run a charity case or was a social worker. It's clear by your post your not a seasoned landlord who want so simplify things and have little stress with your rentals.
Why would you want to rent out a nice property worth some big bucks to someone who can't even afford a car or support their family. The last thing in the world they care about is taking care of your rental and making sure you get paid on time. Reject them. --47.156.xx.xx |
Do You?? (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 4:36 AM
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the New Green Deal that is the rave of all on the left has a section to guarantee economic security even for people who are “unwilling” to work.
He is just ahead of the curve. Most of the declared Presidential Candidates have signed on in support of the New Green Deal.
GOD SAVE AMERICA FROM THE LEFT --73.182.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 5:37 AM
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Do You?? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 6:06 AM
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Just so we are all clear: NO WAY!
In fact I have to ask what would even make you CONSIDER this person?
Domestic Violence is a non-starter for me in the first place, let alone all the other stuff. --50.82.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by OKHMBLDR [OK]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 6:16 AM
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Please, please, please....Take this guy!
Then for the next few years we will be able to read your posts on the awful things this guy has done to your nice home.
Pit Bulls inside (3).
Growing things in the bedroom.
Painting walls black.
Cars on blocks in the yard.
When you take this guy, this list will grow and we will have a lot of reading and replying to do.
So, Yes, take him! --99.104.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 6:18 AM
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I wouldn't rent to him, but you can't leave three little kids ages 3-10 home alone for 8-9 hours a day.
Day care is hard to come by and it is expensive. He isn't going to be able to pay for day care for three kids on any sort of job that tenants usually have.
I suspect that he is happy to use that as an excuse to sit home and watch the telly, but, on the other hand, it is an issue that welfare doesn't deal with adequately. --98.146.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 6:28 AM
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I'm with OKHMBLDR, but with one caveat. Hire a TV film crew so you can document everything and create a reality TV show called, "The Nightmare on My Street: Stories of the Worst Tenant Ever."
You could make $1 million!
Ok, in all seriousness...No. Do not accept him. For all the reasons everyone else said.
Now here's what you DO need to do. Write up your renter qualification criteria. I'm 99.999999% sure you don't have any. Fix that problem and you'll never need to ask a question like this again. --173.20.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 6:41 AM
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Who is going to clean up after those kids? I put a building up for sale temporarily to ward off a single man with triplets. Seriously this is a mess you don't want. Do you think he might have a girlfriend and her kids too that he is not mentioning? Do you think maybe he is lying about the extra money? He has a criminal record that will carry over into your property. Find a way to not take him. It's almost spring and you will have more people coming. --173.61.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 7:03 AM
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I bet the kids don't live with him except occassionally. --50.82.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 7:50 AM
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It's already unanimous, but I'll add my no to the list as well. This is a problem looking for a place to unfold. --72.209.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 10:31 AM
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Why do the background check if it doesn't matter?
This man will be trouble.
I am not very experienced but I would not take this guy.
Who is your handy man? --73.120.xx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Kim [TX]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 12:05 PM
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I'll add that I've been through the Temporary Cash Assistance and temp help from Social Services "that can last up to 5 years". It can also last 2 months, or one week. Eviction to follow.... --23.30.xx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 12:12 PM
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Handyman gets no holiday bonus this year.
I have one tenancy (already ended) that my family and I refer to as Stupid House. As in, I was stupid to rent to them.
This sounds like an awful lot of house for someone with very little means. Yes, he needs a place, but, ‘very desirable community’ and three level townhouse sounds high end for someone that needs to learn to be very frugal. --70.92.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 3:12 PM
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Melinda,
Wow! I'm the odd man out based on Federal Fair Housing law.
Based on the info you provided, why is this MAN any different than a WOMAN on Sec8? You could be sued for discrimination based on sex.
SHE has no job, 3 kids, and lives off the govt and agency handouts. LLs are fine taking HER on Sec8.
Any person who has raised 3 children knows he's not sitting on his rear all day. Plus keeping all those programs and free money coming in is a full time job.
Petty theft can be shoplifting a pack of cigarettes at age 18.
Driving without a license to keep a job is minor. When did this happen?
Domestic battery is commonly filed by the opposing party in a divorce. Again, WHEN?
One of MY res was charged with domestic battery but his wife still stays in the house. They agree he grabbed her arm in self defense when she swung a frying pan at his head. (and HE got charged!?) It was a way for her to "get back at him".
"Everyone is welcome to apply" keeps you square with Fair Housing police. Screen normally from his WRITTEN application. Illegal for you to pre-judge without the written app and full screening.
Also know this might be a Fair Housing tester, a person PAID to trip you up for a lawsuit. Indianapolis has an ad to hire these.
Me? we don't take Sec8. Done. Must be garnishable.
Quick guide to MD Fair Housing Laws. Know that your city might have additional laws so check those out. mccr.maryland.gov/Pages/Housing-Discrimination.aspx
Good luck and let us know how his screening works out!
BRAD
BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 3:41 PM
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All very good points Brad. --73.120.xx.xxx |
Do You?? (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 4:29 PM
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THANK you all A Big PASS on this one!! --24.233.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by Sarah [FL]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 4:43 PM
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No section 8. No problem. Use a real estate office to help find a tenant if you can’t seem to fill it. They will take a big finder’s fee, but it will be less costly than to evict and clean up. Also, you can lower your price a little, then in two weeks raise it by a lot, or vice verse, as different people look for different price points. Good luck. --66.87.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 7:41 AM
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Brad, I screen male and female applicants the same and I don't accept criminals, not male criminals, not female criminals.
I wouldn't accept this guy.
Here in Idaho, I don't accept Section 8. I don't accept male Section 8, I don't accept female Section 8.
In Oregon, where it is against the law to reject for Section 8, I only do month to month rental agreements, please check with your case worker to see if you can rent a place that isn't on a lease, since Section 8 requires a lease for the first year. --98.146.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 8:01 AM
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Oregon Woodsmoke, I’m glad to read that. My city has just said landlords have to accept Section 8. I’ve only ever done MTM.
I didn’t read in this thread that anyone would accept a female, but not a male in this same situation. I’m one of the ‘mom and pop’ landlords who ‘works with tenants’ BUT tenants must be realistic about their expectations. I have lower end properties , I call the class C only because there is worse, much worse areas in my city maybe two miles away. Others on this forum would think I’m in war zones. So, my applicants aren’t looking to rent in ‘highly desirable ‘ communities. But, even for my little places, I would be concerned that this applicant may have much more knowledge about what ‘benefits’ they qualify for than knowledge about what kind of jobs they qualify for.
I want people who are looking to improve their situation through hard work, self-restraint, and perseverance. Those persons, I want to ‘work with’. Yes, my tenants occasionally get assistance programs, but, it’s not their plan to make a living off of that. --70.92.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 11:38 AM
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Ugh. There has to be something about him that does not pass your list of criteria. Lack of garnishable income? Previous eviction? Crappy credit? Incomplete application? Dig!
I feel badly for those kids - they need a better role model, and I seriously wonder why he has the kids after having been involved in any kind of abuse. --71.175.xxx.xx |
Do You?? (by Sue [MI]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 8:46 AM
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Answer is NO. Doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. This person is what I call a "lifelong taker". I don't mind temporary gov help but the entitlement mentality of a lifelong taker is "I don't have to work, everybody owes me". Nothing but trouble and complaints to legal services in this scenario. --97.84.xxx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2019 9:20 PM
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You do NOT need to get it rented THAT badly! Take a deep breath. Someone better will come along. Someone who WORKS for a living and isn't on the dole. (maybe tell your handyman to refrain from recommending obvious losers.) --108.87.xx.xxx |
Do You?? (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2019 9:35 AM
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He prides himself in knowing the system. he will know how to work the system against you. Pass but you have to find a solid legal reason. --108.51.xxx.xxx |
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