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problem neighbor-cameras (by Laker Lori [CA]) May 24, 2018 11:50 AM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by Jason [VA]) May 24, 2018 12:01 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by cjo'h [CT]) May 24, 2018 12:05 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by John... [MI]) May 24, 2018 12:26 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) May 24, 2018 12:33 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by Moshe [CA]) May 24, 2018 1:28 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by plenty [MO]) May 24, 2018 1:56 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by Ken [NY]) May 24, 2018 2:15 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) May 24, 2018 3:01 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by Robert J [CA]) May 24, 2018 3:23 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by AllyM [NJ]) May 24, 2018 4:08 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by John... [MI]) May 24, 2018 7:02 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by JR [ME]) May 24, 2018 7:38 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by tbird [KY]) May 24, 2018 8:05 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by Livethedream [AZ]) May 24, 2018 11:20 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by myob [GA]) May 25, 2018 4:19 AM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by John... [MI]) May 25, 2018 7:02 AM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by Jim [WI]) May 25, 2018 10:54 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by cjo'h [CT]) May 25, 2018 11:18 PM
       problem neighbor-cameras (by John... [MI]) May 26, 2018 11:52 AM

problem neighbor-cameras (by Laker Lori [CA]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 11:50 AM

I have a 4-unit bldg next to a homeowner, with a dividing wall & fence. Her recent complaints are that the residents are "slamming" (she insists it's slamming, not closing) their car doors. Says she already talked w/ the city about the noise. She says their cars constantly set off her CO2, particularly when they park with their car backed in: "I don't want to die behind someone's carbon monoxide!" Something about someone throwing glass beer bottles over to her side. She wants to put cameras up ON HER PROPERTY, but looking into my property, ostensibly to catch who is putting bottles over there. I said ok because I'm thinking I can't stop her from doing it if it's on HER property. Correct?


problem neighbor-cameras (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 12:01 PM

Personally, I'd advocate it. I'd also advocate installing signage to let people know they're being monitored. The signs may wind up being more of a deterrent than the cameras.

From my understanding, as long as the cameras aren't aimed inside of another residence, then she's good to go.


problem neighbor-cameras (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 12:05 PM

Lori, of course,tell her to be your guest,whatever number she wants,she's going to do it anyway................charlie.........may not cure the problem,but at least she tried....................................... --174.199.x.xx

problem neighbor-cameras (by John... [MI]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 12:26 PM

I'd probably tell her to go and do whatever she think she needs to. Technically, it might be illegal for her to point a camera onto your property actually.

She's already contacted the police about the noise -- did THEY think it was a valid complaint? If so, then they can give a warning to your tenants. If not, then there isn't anything else to be done on your part really.

Also, just how close are we talking here? If the exhaust from their cars outside are really setting off her CO detector, then something really weird is going on. Like, I wonder if she is right on the edge of a CO limit as it is and just a little extra pushes it over the edge. In which case, she should be checking out HER house for CO issues instead of blaming your tenants.

Again, if it really is exhaust from next door setting off her CO detector, then something really, really weird is going on. THAT you might want to look into (like if your parking area is really sealed up and just vents to her house somehow). Otherwise, she likely already has issues.

- John...

problem neighbor-cameras (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 12:33 PM

Cameras cannot be aimed at any portion of the property where the occupants have a reasonable expectation of privacy so this would include the backyard, deck, patio and obviously the interior of the property.

CA is a two party state regarding audio in that both parties must consent to audio recording.


problem neighbor-cameras (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 1:28 PM

CA does not have a specific statute limiting the use of cameras, but the state constitution guarantees the right to privacy, and that provision is enough to be used in court.

The basic idea is that, if the camera is used as an invasion of privacy, then it is illegal.

On the subject of audio recording, consent is not required in CA if all parties are AWARE of the recording, and even that is not required if the conversation being recorded is not determined to be a confidential conversation. Thats CA state penal code, not FCC communications regulation.

problem neighbor-cameras (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 1:56 PM

And give her your phone number, she is your new best friend.

problem neighbor-cameras (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 2:15 PM

I would tell her to do whatever she wants to do but keep me out of it,sounds like she might be a little nuts and in the right mood I might mess with her just for fun.I don't think your tenants have any expectation of privacy in your driveway or back yard if it is a 4 unit building but I am not a lawyer

problem neighbor-cameras (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 3:01 PM

Unfortunately, the world is chock full of nutty neighbors. It's just about impossible to get away from them

I can just imagine what sort of reaction she got from the police when she called to report her neighbors are slamming their car doors.

I think I would stay out of it, except to maybe notify all of my tenants that all trash must be placed in the proper recepticle. --174.216.xx.xx

problem neighbor-cameras (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 3:23 PM

In my prime Hancock Park apartment property in Los Angeles the neighbor would get up at 3:30 AM and start his old clunker car parked in the rear of the building and let it warm up for 20 minutes. The noise and smog from his tail pipe would enter my tenants apartment and they would start to chock for fresh air, then having to close their windows and then sleep on the sofa in another room.

Then the neighbor would go to prey for half an hour and return. Then he would take his new car to work a few hours later.

No matter what I did, said or who i talked to, nothing would change. That's until I took maters into my own hands.

The next day he started up his car at 3:30 AM and let it warm up. As he started to drive down the driveway to exit I parked my 10 TON Flat Bed trunk in the driveway and parked it there.

He got out and said I had to move or he'd call the police. An hour later the police showed up and asked why did I park in his driveway. I explained, "Oh, I thought this was the driveway for next door. I will move it soon"!

As I craned the key the motor wouldn't start. I said, I guess the battery is dead. I'll get my mechanic over here right away, In maybe a week to fix it! The police were perplexed. Then I was told they would tow the truck away at my expense. I told them go ahead.

The largest tow trucked showed up and was ready to remove the truck. That's until I flipped down a sign,

"Vehicle Carrying Toxic Substances, Special Licensed Needed from the Department of Transportation". I told the two truck driver that the fine for towing my truck with Toxic Substances aboard is only $30,000 per incident!

Howard Summers left my truck in the driveway and the police had to leave for other matters. I told my neighbor that he just wasted 5 hours being a hard ball.

I told the neighbor that from now on he's going to park is clunker car on the street and leave my tenants alone. if not, my next step is to block the entrance and exit of his church/temple so that all others preying will fill my tenants pain.

He stopped parking in the driveway. All this because of one nut! --47.156.xx.xx

problem neighbor-cameras (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 4:08 PM

Robert, that was brilliant. In a state full of environment nuts, I am surprised that no one would ticket him for the exhaust.

problem neighbor-cameras (by John... [MI]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 7:02 PM

How is it brilliant? Since when should we be rewarding people that will lie to the police and everyone else they know just to get what they want?

Suddenly two wrongs make a right here? Nice.

- John...

problem neighbor-cameras (by JR [ME]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 7:38 PM

Robert (if he is in fact a real person not a troll) regularly boasts of his criminal acts on this forum, and Jeffrey the moderator tolerates it. Multiple posters here will come to his defense.

problem neighbor-cameras (by tbird [KY]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 8:05 PM

With all due respect, I find the sheer number of (very good) "Robert" stories hard to believe.

problem neighbor-cameras (by Livethedream [AZ]) Posted on: May 24, 2018 11:20 PM

Yeah, who cares? Let her put up cameras, encourage it. If anyone molests your property the police can demand her video. And you don't have to pay or maintain anything. It's a win-win! :)

As for Robert, I like his stories, even if a few get enhanced a tad. ;)

Wait until I tell you guys about the escrow and sale from he*l that I'm in the middle of. Five more days! LOL

problem neighbor-cameras (by myob [GA]) Posted on: May 25, 2018 4:19 AM

Way to involved with this nut case. We have many many nosiy neighbors and goodie too shoes giving their take on life and HOW they want others to live.

The only number I'd give this GREAT neighbor is 911. We tell any complainers -- call the police if you see something. It's amazing how quickly the police will put them on the nut cracker list. We put emphisise on the 911 to CALL AS SOON AS U CAN.

problem neighbor-cameras (by John... [MI]) Posted on: May 25, 2018 7:02 AM

tbird: Agreed. I've been saying that for years. People don't want to hear it, of course...

- John...

problem neighbor-cameras (by Jim [WI]) Posted on: May 25, 2018 10:54 PM

Maybe Robert should post trigger warnings for the more fragile commenters here. The extent to which Pharisees like John get bent out of shape over these stories amuses me. Keep it up Robert.

problem neighbor-cameras (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 25, 2018 11:18 PM

Dr.Mike,yes he's real alright,Ts rud brag Gaelic icki,Ta is agam.........charlie..................................................................... --174.199.x.xx

problem neighbor-cameras (by John... [MI]) Posted on: May 26, 2018 11:52 AM

Jim: Were did I get bent out of shape or act "fragile." I simply said that two wrongs don't make a right and that I don't believe most of his stories anyhow.

You can continue to drink his Kool-Aid all you want. I know how a lot of you here hate fact checking or any concern with things actually be accurate or legal. Sheesh.

- John...

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