 No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) May 18, 2018 10:18 AM
 No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Doogie [KS]) May 18, 2018 10:57 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by JB [OR]) May 18, 2018 11:17 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by RB [MI]) May 18, 2018 11:45 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by plenty [MO]) May 18, 2018 11:47 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Shelly [IN]) May 18, 2018 12:06 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by RentsDue [MA]) May 18, 2018 12:43 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Jim in O C [CA]) May 18, 2018 12:56 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by C&J [CO]) May 18, 2018 1:09 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Vee [OH]) May 18, 2018 1:13 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Ken [NY]) May 18, 2018 1:22 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by WMH [NC]) May 18, 2018 1:31 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) May 18, 2018 1:33 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by JB [OR]) May 18, 2018 1:53 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) May 18, 2018 2:15 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by laura [CO]) May 18, 2018 2:28 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Jason [VA]) May 18, 2018 3:00 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by LisaFL [FL]) May 18, 2018 3:12 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) May 18, 2018 3:20 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) May 18, 2018 3:22 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) May 18, 2018 3:30 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by JB [OR]) May 18, 2018 6:02 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by AllyM [NJ]) May 18, 2018 6:04 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Tom [FL]) May 18, 2018 10:41 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Livethedream [AZ]) May 19, 2018 1:09 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Danno [IL]) May 19, 2018 3:18 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) May 19, 2018 4:45 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) May 19, 2018 8:52 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Elena [PA]) May 19, 2018 9:53 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) May 19, 2018 10:11 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) May 19, 2018 10:56 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) May 19, 2018 11:34 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Rich [PA]) May 19, 2018 12:31 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) May 19, 2018 1:40 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Tom [FL]) May 19, 2018 8:08 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Mickie [OH]) May 20, 2018 9:16 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) May 20, 2018 9:37 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by JB [OR]) May 20, 2018 10:00 AM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Mickie [OH]) May 20, 2018 12:53 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) May 20, 2018 4:07 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) May 21, 2018 3:06 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Mickie [OH]) May 21, 2018 3:17 PM
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 10:18 AM
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If you do not allow Pets, Smoking, or Section 8,...what is your #1 reason for not allowing these? I do not want to know all of your reasons,..just your #1 reason. Is the reason something that does not fit well within your own lifestyle or is the reason strictly business related?
Personally, I would not want to say NO to a great applicant just because they have a pet or they like to vape. And there are some really great Section 8 tenants out there too. I have one right now.
So again, what is your #1 reason for screening-out the big 3 mentioned above?
--68.63.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 10:57 AM
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Sec 8 - I inherited a Section 8 tenant. They were below market rent. Section 8 refused to raise to market rate (it was quite a bit below, $150 short on a $400 apartment). They did their inspection and said I had to clean the tub, mildew was growing. That was the final straw.
So to answer your question, below market rent and big brother wanting me to clean tenants houses because they wouldn't. --72.202.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 11:17 AM
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Only one answer, eh?
Pets: Pets pee/crap and tenants don't clean up
Smoking: Tenants lie; say they only smoke outside. BS
Section 8: Tenants are entitled, lazy, lying pigs --50.45.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by RB [MI]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 11:45 AM
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All 3 are Expensive, Destructive, and Inconvenient.
There's your # 1 reason, in one sentence.
--47.35.xx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 11:47 AM
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Poor mindset... Choosing to smoke means not taking care of yourself. On section 8, do you realize it cost $800 a year to own a pet? Section 8... Works for me in some zip codes not in others. Have to know your market. I feed, house and college my kids on the rental income. Want a good healthy tenant! --99.203.xx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Shelly [IN]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 12:06 PM
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PETS - Cleanliness
Smoking - Cleanliness
Section 8 - because I have worked since I was 16 --76.92.xx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 12:43 PM
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No pets or smoking because they are both a liability and they smell. Most fires Involve careless smokers and every single dog bite case involves a dog. Section 8 is fine, they don't ignite things or bite. --174.199.xx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 12:56 PM
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Section 8, I don't want the government running my business.
Smoking, property stinks when smokers leave and more cost to get ready for the next tenant.
Pets, even though more income possible, I have had expensive pets damage from both cats and dogs. Cats are the worst. --75.22.xx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by C&J [CO]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 1:09 PM
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What RB [MI] said....I've also found that all 3 groups get pissy when they are declined, --192.168.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 1:13 PM
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Smoking, I take them but the double deposit gets used up quickly - let them pay for what they like, same with pets, photo vet records showing annual vaccinations, registration fee - pet rent - renters insurance with dog inclusive and I am beneficiary (often too expensive - about 12-1400bux when totaled up), sec8 uncollectible so came the zero tolerance on billing damages in next rent cycle - rebill and then the eviction follows in 30 days - anytime of year for damages.
Basically these folks can't afford to be in one of my places, but (heard this last year at convention) we can not cater to everyone. --76.188.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 1:22 PM
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Section 8,i am not interested in wasting time with there silly inspections,the people in the office are a pain to deal with and regular tenants don't require my time to deal with government employees and I really don't need the government telling me how much rent I can charge and how much of an increase I can get and when I can get it --72.231.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 1:31 PM
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Section 8: See Ken/NY's answer. I am suspicious of all government interference in our lives. So while I'm sure there are some great Sec8 individuals out there, I don't want to be part of the program and deal with the bureaucrats.
Pets: We allow them. No puppies, though, because puppies pee poop and CHEW on things, like woodwork.
Smoking: We allow smoking. It's NC - we are a tobacco state and a lot of people still smoke. We say they must smoke outside these days, but...don't check. And include a bunch of info on how the cleaning will go down when they leave.
We don't allow smoking in the one apartment below us, though. Can't stand the smell. --50.82.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 1:33 PM
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RB said "All 3 are Expensive, Destructive, and Inconvenient."
Those 3 words would also apply to small children,...do you eliminate the kids too?
--68.63.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 1:53 PM
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Yes. Of course Roy. But...as we all know, children are a protected class and off limits. --50.45.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 2:15 PM
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Plenty said, "Want a good healthy tenant!"
My position is: Eating at fast-food restaurants is not very healthy either, but every day the same folks line up for that super-sized Big Mac, a large order of fries and a diet Coke.
So, do you screen out everyone that eats at fast food restaurants too? --68.63.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by laura [CO]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 2:28 PM
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clean up a couple of apartments with smoke, pet urine and section 8 filth and then you will get it. --98.127.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 3:00 PM
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Short and to the point: None of these items will increase your property's value. Moreover, they will require additional cleaning and/or painting that could have been delayed by having a non-smoking/no pet tenant. --170.224.xx.x |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 3:12 PM
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Everyone a,ready captured the reasons well.
Smoking: nit worth the destruction and clean-up. Major expense.
Pets: I do consider them. Not when they're left locked up all day long for hours. Plus the cleanup is sometimes as bad as smoking damage.
Section 8: I decided long ago I'd rather support the working class by offering them quality, affordable housing. I already support the welfare class through my taxes. --173.170.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 3:20 PM
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Roy, I don't want pets,smokers and Section 8,no problem,section 8 usually pay market and above,and are cleaner,or as clean as anyone else.As far as smoke is concerned,nothing that a five gallon pail of paint won't take care of.and I'm a lot older than you,so that's it..........charlie...........nothing wrong with a big mac once in a while either...................................... --174.199.x.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 3:22 PM
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I accept carefully screened adult dogs.
Smoking is destructive, stinky, and expensive to clean up after.
I accept carefully screened Section 8 tenacts ... except not one of them has ever passed the very same screening process that all of my tenants pass. --174.216.xx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 3:30 PM
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Roy,but watch the diet coke,you could choke on that stuff..........charlie........................................................................well couldn't you..... --174.199.x.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 6:02 PM
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I would challenge Roy or anyone else to ONLY accept smokers, pet owners and ESAs, and S-8s for two full years and report back your results. I am sure we would all be quite curious to hear about this adventurous endeavor. Let the games begin! --50.45.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 6:04 PM
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No pets on brand new carpet. Older carpet OK.
No smoking in building with one heater for two units. Smoking in general ruins walls and ceilings and causes expensive painting repairs. If the smoking tenant stays long enough it evens out but if not its a big loss.
I don't have section 8 right now. did have one that was a friend's daughter long time ago and it was OK. I am just not inspected for it and not seeking it. NJ law says I can't refuse someone on Sec. 8 but if I haven't been inspected then how could I take someone? I don't seek it because I suspect they will be a problem to me and I am by myself doing this and I just don't need the aggravation. Just had a lot of aggravation from a young couple who should have been on it. --73.178.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: May 18, 2018 10:41 PM
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Pets: Urine damage can be treated properly. Not masking over it with primer.
Smoking: Nicotine Damage: Clean it, then Prime then Paint it
Section 8: Government Interference, no thanks... --99.56.xx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Livethedream [AZ]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 1:09 AM
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Pets - damage
Smoking - lifestyle. Yuck. Stems from scraping tar off walls at 15 flipping senior condos with my grandmother.
Sect 8 - too many hoops and pitfalls. Also I feel the program squanders our taxes, often without benefiting those intended. --47.216.xx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Danno [IL]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 3:18 AM
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I accept smokers, but don't allow smoking inside the apartments. Most are great about it. I had one tenant who had an excellent rent payment history, but was a three pack a day smoker. Was with me for seven years. After he died, it took me close to a month to clean out all the built-up tar inside that apartment. Section 8? Won't pay enough rent to justify the regulatory hassles I would constantly have to deal with. Dogs? The big ones bite and damage the unit. The small ones are reliably around the clock non-stop barkers. (Nuf' said!) --99.203.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 4:45 AM
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JB (OR) said "I would challenge Roy or anyone else to ONLY accept smokers, pet owners and ESAs, and S-8s for two full years and report back your results."
Well JB,..I accept your challenge. Not 2 years though, how about 12 years? Here is my report card.
For the last 12 years (I started in 2006), I have rented my SFH to tenants who smoke, had dogs and I have had approx. six Section 8 tenants since 06. . And I have not had even half of the problems you all are reporting here.
Pets: I have had pet urine damage. This is where I learned to remove the carpet and install Allure or VCT. 80% of my tenant pool have dogs and with my monthly pet fees, I make a fortune off these people. In my market, you would be a fool not accept dogs and charge the tenants for the privilege. You just need to learn how 'pet proof' your rentals and that starts with removing that pet urine sponge called carpet.
Smokers: About 30-40% of my past tenants were smokers. No big deal here. When they vacate, you open up all of the windows and let the house 'air itself out' for a couple of days. If you want to completely remove the odor, paint the inside of the house which you were probably going to do anyway.
Section 8 - No, the federal government (HUD) does not operate or manage your rental business. All HUD does is supply you with the government's portion of the rent money. I don't have time here to re-educate everyone on the pros and cons of having Section 8 tenants.
Based on 12 years of experience, I will continue to rent to Pet Owners, smokers and some Section 8 tenants who have been screened properly,...which means an 'in-home' visit. --68.63.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 8:52 AM
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I allow pets with no breed restrictions.
I do not accept Sec 8 A) they cannot afford my rents B) they do not allow 2 months security deposits which is a requirement for all of my properties regardless of income or credit.
Fortunately, I do not have any smokers since my tenants are almost all Millenials and health conscious. But I do not allow smoking due to the damage it causes to the property. --71.75.xx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Elena [PA]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 9:53 AM
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We allow all pets because there is hardwood in all apartments. And I love dogs. I can't imagine telling an otherwise qualifying applicant that they can't bring their pet.
Smoking: I just don't want the smell. Plus most our properties are duplexes and many tenants have kids. I don't want smoking around them
Section 8: I applied for the program. But seeing how many hoops they want me to jump through, I withdrew. We can rent out without Section 8. I don't need their input. We run an honest organization, we don't discriminate, and if you work and pay your bills, you can rent from us.
There is another side to Section 8 though. I have a friend who IS renting through them, and her logic is that we are already paying for it through taxes, why not claim some of that $$ back.... I disagree. I want as little to do with government as possible. --96.83.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 10:11 AM
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I have been renting to people of all nationalities and all walks of life since 1957, the year after I immigrated here,because I couldn't see paying $100 a month for a four room apartment,never paid rent before in my life,didn't think it was a good way to start life in the colonies,so I acquired a two family,which shortly thereafter,converted to a three.It was all downhill after that,I have two Section 8 for over 5 years,admiral people.I don't allow pets,smokers are fine,if they want to shorten their lifespan,who am I to to deter them .Had one guy for over nine years,don't know if it was the cigarettes that got him or the vodka,he was big into both,so I'd say it wad a toss up...........charlie..................................................... --174.199.x.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 10:56 AM
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Charlie,
A LL since 1957? Just how old are you? Are you pushing the triple digits? --68.63.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 11:34 AM
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Without divulging anything.Almost,but not quite............charlie.......my grandfather died the day before I was born,he was ninety,and worked to the day before that,at least that's what they told me...........charlie................................................. --174.199.x.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Rich [PA]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 12:31 PM
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I have all multi-unit properties so my problems compound if I have one undesirable tenant. Brad's FREEDOM to me is two fold: 1) no regular job and 2) minimal drama for my rent checks.
PETS: Damage, barking, poop on the property. $20-30 per month extra does not get me excited. If I take one pet, I have to listen to the other building tenants asking the same question. Most of my tenants have 9 - 5 jobs so who is tending to the pet when not home - pee pads, just hold it for 10 hours?.
SMOKING: I've been totally no smoking for years and I find there is a huge interest from non-smokers to live here. I get very high rent for my area because non-smokers will pay a premium not live around smokers. Same reason non smokers do not enjoy going to a smoking bar these days.
SECTION 8: I did not become a landlord to be a social / welfare employee. I have highly sought after apartments so I can top-feed instead of bottom-feed for tenants. If I wanted drama, I'd go back to working for a living. --100.6.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 1:40 PM
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Rents Due,we had three Samoyed's,Didn't smell,of course they owned the house,so we didn't count,one lived to be 18 years. My daughter,round the corner from you,had two dogs,one s black retriever,the other an offspring of the Samoyed's,aptly named pearl and Baily,she still dogsits for the neighbourhood when they see fit to go on vacation,Never a problem.Never thought it cost that much to keep a dog,No wonder I don't have any money..............charlie....
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No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: May 19, 2018 8:08 PM
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cjo'h of CT, so you're older than dirt!!!
Keep on going that keeps you young...
...Plus its possible for people to live to be 120 years old..
cjo'h let us know when you hit 120 years old!!!
--99.56.xx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: May 20, 2018 9:16 AM
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Good topic. I have a co-living house where I'm allowing smoking inside. It's working out so far and I net between 900 and 1200 a month. It works because I know that replacement tenants will be smokers too. --174.232.xxx.x |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: May 20, 2018 9:37 AM
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Mickie,
What is a co-living house? A duplex? --68.63.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 20, 2018 10:00 AM
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Co-living = half the tenants are alive/half died from smoking --50.45.xxx.xxx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: May 20, 2018 12:53 PM
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It's more or less a boarding house but because it runs with no more than 4 people unrelated it's not technically a boarding house in my neck of the woods. My latest experiment. --174.232.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: May 20, 2018 4:07 PM
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Mickie,
Here we have 'group homes' were mentally challenged people live with an adult supervisor. I would assume that would qualify as a 'co-living arrangement'. --68.63.xxx.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 21, 2018 3:06 PM
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Tom,older than dirt,you're fairly close.the new 80 is the old 40,I'll call you when I hit 120,Just make sure you answer,and not pass it off to someone else ,have a lot in Cape Coral,want to dig out the foundation,could build a nice Ranch for my 100th birthday,or should I try a Colonial,Might be out of place,especially near the High School...........charlie................. --174.199.x.xx |
No Pets, Smoking or Sec.8 (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: May 21, 2018 3:17 PM
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I have a little 1 bedroom house with a fellow in it who has round the clock supervision. It's not really a group home but in a sense similar but better. There is someone in mymarket that's pretty much cornered the market or I would have explored it. --174.232.xxx.xxx |
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