OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) May 3, 2018 3:14 PM|
OT: panhandlers (by Jason [VA]) May 3, 2018 3:33 PM
OT: panhandlers (by plenty [MO]) May 3, 2018 4:09 PM
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) May 3, 2018 4:14 PM
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) May 3, 2018 4:14 PM
OT: panhandlers (by NE [PA]) May 3, 2018 4:39 PM
OT: panhandlers (by AllyM [NJ]) May 3, 2018 4:49 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Barbara [VA]) May 3, 2018 4:57 PM
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) May 3, 2018 5:03 PM
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) May 3, 2018 5:17 PM
OT: panhandlers (by DJ [VA]) May 3, 2018 5:51 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Lynda [TX]) May 3, 2018 6:19 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) May 3, 2018 6:43 PM
OT: panhandlers (by NE [PA]) May 3, 2018 6:46 PM
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) May 3, 2018 6:53 PM
OT: panhandlers (by rentON [PA]) May 3, 2018 7:11 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Mickie [OH]) May 3, 2018 7:15 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Luba [NY]) May 3, 2018 8:09 PM
OT: panhandlers (by don [PA]) May 3, 2018 8:28 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Luba [NY]) May 3, 2018 8:48 PM
OT: panhandlers (by fred [CA]) May 3, 2018 8:55 PM
OT: panhandlers (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) May 3, 2018 10:36 PM
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) May 3, 2018 10:38 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Luba [NY]) May 4, 2018 3:42 AM
OT: panhandlers (by nhsailmaker [NH]) May 4, 2018 3:51 AM
OT: panhandlers (by Beth [WI]) May 4, 2018 4:45 AM
OT: panhandlers (by S i d [MO]) May 4, 2018 5:06 AM
OT: panhandlers (by Nicole [PA]) May 4, 2018 5:08 AM
OT: panhandlers (by Tarheel T [NC]) May 4, 2018 5:22 AM
OT: panhandlers (by RB [MI]) May 4, 2018 5:28 AM
OT: panhandlers (by del [MD]) May 4, 2018 6:35 AM
OT: panhandlers (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) May 4, 2018 6:53 AM
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) May 4, 2018 7:51 AM
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) May 4, 2018 8:04 AM
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) May 4, 2018 9:20 AM
OT: panhandlers (by Sortta Blonde [CA]) May 4, 2018 9:32 AM
OT: panhandlers (by Don [PA]) May 4, 2018 10:08 AM
OT: panhandlers (by Wilma [PA]) May 4, 2018 12:28 PM
OT: panhandlers (by NE [PA]) May 4, 2018 12:36 PM
OT: panhandlers (by myob [GA]) May 4, 2018 12:54 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Pmh [TX]) May 4, 2018 4:21 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Pmh [TX]) May 4, 2018 4:27 PM
OT: panhandlers (by Pmh [TX]) May 4, 2018 4:38 PM
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) May 4, 2018 8:34 PM
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) May 4, 2018 8:45 PM
OT: panhandlers (by myob [GA]) May 5, 2018 6:48 AM
OT: panhandlers (by Jane B. [MA]) May 5, 2018 10:34 AM
OT: panhandlers (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) May 5, 2018 12:33 PM
OT: panhandlers (by myob [GA]) May 6, 2018 4:55 AM
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 3:14 PM
This seems to be getting worse and worse in my neighborhood.
I used to give to them, and I still do to one person who's situation I know, but at this point I'm becoming wary of all of them.
They are now doing it inside some of the businesses here now--approaching customers--until they get caught. Not just out front or in a parking lot. Most of them seem to be addicts.
Is this getting worse across the country or is it just something I'm seeing in my area?
OT: panhandlers (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 3:33 PM
We had one sitting at a busy intersection here wearing Nike Air Jordan tennis shoes ($200+). I won't splurge on $200 tennis shoes, so I asked him for change. He didn't think it was as funny as I did. --170.224.xx.x
OT: panhandlers (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 4:09 PM
Some days I think they may have it right... Join them? I will remember Jason's comment! Funny. Duh dude what are you thinkin? --99.203.xx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 4:14 PM
Jason,that was funny.Theres one character whohas been panhandling for about 30 years at the end of the Highway connector and the Boulevard,same MO as he did years ago.No I wouldn't give him anything either,he
makes more money than I.At least he should change his shirt once in a while .He does it Summer and Winter ,I would rather work,it's easier........charlie.............................................. --174.199.x.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 4:14 PM
LOL Jason. --72.188.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 4:39 PM
When mice and rats infest a building they usually have a good source or food and water. Getting rid of the rodents starts with getting rid of the food and water. --50.32.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 4:49 PM
The stand on traffic circles here with big cards and people toss them money. Some of them have buckets and walk up to cars pretending they are collecting for an organization. I make sure my windows are rolled up and don't look at them. None in stores yet. --73.178.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 4:57 PM
Bad near my house. On occasion there are multiple ones on same corner. The evil side of me wants to tell one I gave the other $10 to split with him and watch caos ensue...but I can't bring myself to be that kind of mean. --68.107.xxx.x
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 5:03 PM
Ally I live near a major road with high speed traffic and they are jaywalking (slowly, taking their time, not running) from a homeless camp in the woods on the other side of that street, endangering themselves and everyone else. --72.188.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 5:17 PM
J,when I first immigrated here,there were four of us,sixty years ago.The landlord gave us a lecture one night,don't give them anything.Apparently there were schools set up downtown newYort,teaching how to panhandle.very lucrative,then $200 a day.His dad had a shoe repair shop on Upper Broadway in the Bronx,they lived upstairs.Every evening this lady would come in s d give Vi tor's father a bunch of apples oranges bananas and various other fruits.She then walked up a few blocks where she was picked up by her chauffeur driven limousine a F taken to her then $250,000 home in the Hamptons.So Victor said "Don't give them anything ". He could be right.........................charlie
OT: panhandlers (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 5:51 PM
There are quite a few around here. A few months ago, signs were put up in some of the most popular spots that say: Do not encourage panhandling. There are agencies and non-profit organizations that provide help for the homeless. They include a phone # to call if you need help.
People still beg and hold up "homeless, help me" signs right next to the new signs.
My painter says she knows someone who does it regularly - instead of working - and they collect hundreds a day. They consider the donors fools who deserve to be separated from their money. --68.10.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 6:19 PM
At the 1st intersection off the highway on my way home, was a former old VietNam vet and his dog. When I had an extra dollar I used to give him--mostly for the dog. He looked scruffy but healthy, same age as me. He could have easily worked at McDs and eaten for free at least 1 meal/day--and the dog too. When I retired from that job I never saw him again. I always felt bad for the poor dog. --108.87.xx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 6:43 PM
Barbara, you're a genius. Evil genius, but genius just the same.
I have watched them collect at least $1 per light. The next time you feel sorry for them consider they probably earn $30/hr tax free. That means they earn around $31,000 for a 20 hr/week part-time job. Over $60k if they put in the full 40 hours. All tax free.
We're in the wrong business. We should hire professional beggars to fill street corners. I'm surprised the cities don't require begging permits at intersections. Great way to earn revenue. --108.69.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 6:46 PM
I think I remember hearing some news somewhere about a city or cities charging their beggars a fee or making them get a permit. Maybe fake news? I think it was out west. --50.32.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 6:53 PM
Charlie, that is interesting..the more things change the more they stay the same. --72.188.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by rentON [PA]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 7:11 PM
The panhandling around here is not too bad. Hopefully the people that really need the help aren't wearing Jordan's.
OT: panhandlers (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 7:15 PM
31k to 60k....Yikes that could seriously screw my plan up for the Professional Swatter Eradicator company I was thinking of starting. I'd never be able to afford to hire a decent brut squad to rent out to other landlords! --174.233.x.xx
OT: panhandlers (by Luba [NY]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 8:09 PM
When the weather is nice I can see them in a grassy hill near the big supermarket. They look slavic (Romanian or Ukrainian). It is father or mother and two or three kids playing on a blanket. Look like perfect picnic scene, except the sign asking for money. The are coming only in a weekends and vanish after a couple of weeks. --69.120.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by don [PA]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 8:28 PM
We never had them near my house in SW Phila until a year ago. Young White kids from the suburbs, look to be physically capable. Most likely junkies. I get so sick of it. The one girl came up to my car and I told her"A thousand Hondurans are walking a thousand miles to get here. You were born here and what are you doing with your life?!! --73.141.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Luba [NY]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 8:48 PM
Don, you just reminded me about a time when I was new in a country. After a full day of English classes we was in a New York City train, tired and hungry, taking our 1.5 hourlong commute home. A young man enter a train and in perfect English was asking for the money with a rap style song, dancing and clapping. I was really depressed thinking how I will find a job with my English, when he is claiming that he can’t. --69.120.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by fred [CA]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 8:55 PM
Those Hondurans are sponsored by Soros and others like him, and - if you believe it - with a quarter million Dollar grant from the USA gov't.
You can't make these things up. --99.59.x.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 10:36 PM
It is everywhere. Back when I lived in FL the Miami Herald did a test and sent 4 reporters out to stand with signs. They averaged $30 an hour - 35 YEARS ago!
I'm not proud, if my health was better I'd be tempted. Especially if I could rent a couple of toddlers - that's there the REAL money is!
WalMart is the worst, they work in shifts it seems. The corners are never vacant, even at night. We are a 24 hour town.
Some of my friends were talking about unionizing them or renting corners for a percentage. ;) --47.216.xx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 3, 2018 10:38 PM
Yes J.A d next door to where I Lived,the owner was a Seargent in the local Police Department,of Irish Descent.Because we were born in Ireland,we could do no wrong Life was good,talk about the good olde days................charlie......................... ..maybe we should start a panhandling school.............may be too late in life...................Luba you did alright too,good luck to you................. --174.199.x.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Luba [NY]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 3:42 AM
Cjo’h, I am alright and even at the landlord’s forum!
Because I decided that begging is too competitive business in the New York City and I don’t like the working environment, I went to a niche I have a degree- engineering.
NEVER give them money!
It could be amateur beggars, but it could be a cartel with a full structure of bosses, supervisors and workers. Someone making a plan how much money each worker must bring, someone making a schedule, the other provide transportation to the working position.
I was reading a story of a man who was stolen as a baby to be in one of those cartels. When he was a baby, he was purposely underfed to look small and younger. When he was about 5 years old they bring him to a underground doctor and amputated both arms! This way more people was giving him money. Thy just drop him when he got sick and a social worker was telling his story to the reporter. --69.120.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 3:51 AM
Gulliani wiped them out of New York City - then the socialist got elected ........and it is worse than ever.
This is what happens when you give free stuff like cell phones to people?
Ever notice that you dont see Hitch hikers anymore
Every notice you can't find a kids treehouse anymore --24.34.xx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Beth [WI]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 4:45 AM
There are definitely different groups of panhandlers in Madison. The homeless around the big campus and state capitol... includes drug addicts, mentally ill, and alcoholics. And some that are just homeless. City government has passed laws that effectly make them less visible to the public so that customers don’t avoid the businesses in that area.
There have been panhandlers at busy intersections in othet parts of the city. I believe these panhandlers at these locations have chosen to do this as their clothes, shoes, backpacks look FAR too good to belong to truly homeless people. Thete have been reports that after their shift is done, they are riding off in very nice looking cars.
If you want to help them, give your money to an
organization or buy them a meal. --24.177.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 5:06 AM
Maybe we should be investing in long term land-leases at busy intersections and rent them out by the hour to panhandlers. City gets rent from us, we take a percentage based on estimated hourly earnings. Panhandlers don't have to fight for space. Everyone wins! --173.17.xx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 5:08 AM
An abundance here. It's technically illegal but the police see and do nothing. Supposedly they direct them to social agencies.
I saw a youngish lady last summer with a tube top and along skirt. Her sign only said "need money". At least she didn't have the usual "God Bless". --72.70.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by Tarheel T [NC]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 5:22 AM
Man SID what a great idea! Now I know what I can do with that .02 acre lot next to the interstate that I cant sell!
BTW I firmly agree with everyone who says not to give to them. If they really are in need and wanting to get on their feet there are plenty of shelters that will assist.
The ones panhandling are the ones that want everything on their terms. --71.85.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by RB [MI]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 5:28 AM
Panhandler had a sign that read,
will work for food.
So I threw him a Coconut.
OT: panhandlers (by del [MD]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 6:35 AM
I worked in Wilmington, Delaware until 2008. Every afternoon at 5:00 PM, a small army of office workers would head toward the bus hub, only to meet a small army of nasty, agressive panhandlers. Things got so bad the city hired " Public Safety Associates " usually big ex cons who were otherwise unemployable. The PSA had a bright yellow vest and a radio.
Panhandling dropped off very quickly. Smartest thing the city ever did. --96.234.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 6:53 AM
The only thing you get when you feed the pigeons is MORE PIGEONS. --73.16.xxx.x
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 7:51 AM
Back in Derry I used to shoot pigeons with a .22, sold them for half a crown,think they shipped them of to England ,don't know what they sold them there for? I also grew Mushrooms,was easier to shoot the pigeons............charlie.................. --174.199.x.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 8:04 AM
the sad part is,there may be a few who really need a few Bob...........charlie.............................. --174.199.x.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by J [FL]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 9:20 AM
It's a bad situation here, and it wasn't like this years ago. The police do arrest people here for panhandling, but not a priority with all the serious crimes they have to deal with.
The addicts need some kind of help...but they need to want help too.
OT: panhandlers (by Sortta Blonde [CA]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 9:32 AM
I stopped giving money to panhandlers after one guy asked for money for food for his wife and baby. I offered to drive them to a nearby restaurant and pay for the meals AND then call a local 'help' agency for them who would come right to the 'broken down' car and give them food and lodging. The guy refused. He just wanted the cold hard cash. He got nothing. Lots of this going around here where I live. Some are like the 'iconic' guy at the freeway off-ramp who has a sign 'Veteran, please help' and walks with a very pronounced limp. Finding him late in the afternoon, gathering up his sign and walking with NO limp reminded me that some people are doing it as a vocation. Why not? Fresh air, meeting lots of nice people, don't have to pay taxes, no worries, sounds good to me. --174.66.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Don [PA]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 10:08 AM
In Philly we have several big universities. Beggars love it because each year they get a new group of freshman from out of town to use their b.s. stories on, stories that city residents have heard a thousand times. --73.141.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 12:28 PM
Don (PA) A friend's son who went to Temple U. in Philly was one of those freshmen, but one with brains. He always offered to get them a burger. The few who took him up on it were genuinely down on their luck. He then connected them with a local church with a "hand up rather than a handout" program. Some got back onto their feet and became part of the church. --71.175.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 12:36 PM
When I was on my internship for college, I used to cut home behind a church as a shortcut. I was on foot and would always run into a bum or 2 back there at night.
I would leave to go containers of food on occasion, because I worked at a restaurant and we would have order mess ups or whatever.
That stopped for me when I cut through there in the daytime once and no one was there, but there were a bunch of used syringes on the ground. --50.32.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by myob [GA]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 12:54 PM
gosh that was funny. I'm still laughing. Seriously-- i'm still laughing half hour later. --99.103.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 4:21 PM
was is San Diego a year or so ago. beggars on every corner. I thought CA is the land of milk & honey ? --166.137.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 4:27 PM
big problem in London. most are romainian gypsy professionals who drive mercedes at end of shift. gypsy scum who should be kicked out. big problem in TX with gypsies also. these are the guys who knock on your door offering to resurface your drive way or did your roof or selling vegetables. scum scammers which need to be got rid of. --166.137.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 4:38 PM
cjo’h... a crown for a pigeon ? I used to sell mushrooms also to pay my university bar bill. magic mushrooms. plebs just wanting to experience the buzz. I made a lot of cash on the freshers each year. spent it all though. --166.137.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 8:34 PM
Pmh,half a crown two and six.the mushrooms were white buttons ,sent to Covent Garden for the spawn the mushrooms were sold to the Convalescent Homes to help TB patients.Don't know if they helped or not.........charlie..............Spent a weekend in Preston,had a few Buddingtons.......................... --174.199.x.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 4, 2018 8:45 PM
Luba,never got a Diploma,Did go to the School of Hard Knocks though........charlie.........................................well sorta.................. --174.199.x.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by myob [GA]) Posted on: May 5, 2018 6:48 AM
I sent this pineapple answer to some of my non LL friends. One emailed back-- "your sick" I laughed even harder.
Going to Publix this morning and getting a crate of them. Think I will get the ones with the shell still on-- make them work harder. --99.103.xxx.xxx
OT: panhandlers (by Jane B. [MA]) Posted on: May 5, 2018 10:34 AM
Yes, some panhandlers are just jerks.
I never ran into people begging for money in the Boston suburbs, except at a couple of highway exits. I did not give them money.
In Florida I saw more homeless and impaired folks. I don't give them money, but give out food or a McDonald's gift card.
I do the same in Toronto. I'm downtown and walk everywhere. It's hard to avoid. Most, if not all, of the people I see are mentally ill. Some severely so. The sickest guy I've ever seen on the streets got my husband's new snow boots, and a meal at McDonalds. He should have been in a hospital.
Others are drug addicts, alcoholics, of course. But my heart goes out to the mentally ill.
My cousin's wife is a psychiatrist. They went to New Zealand for a year when she was done with training. The doctors teased her about how the US could have a homeless problem. It was unreal to think about how we could have so much wealth and poverty. They then closed down the mental hospitals, as we did in the 70's and 80's and almost immediately had a homeless problem.
I've become interested in helping, in some way. I'd like my husband to "cure" everyone, but he doesn't have a Canadian medical license and says it's impossible: The number of Toronto’s homeless dead officially tracked in 2017 is shocking and tragic. Of the 100 who perished — an average of almost two per week — 74 were male, 25 were female and one was transgender. Half of those who died were under the age of 48, with the youngest just 22. The oldest was 94 years old.
Most of the deaths, 65, happened indoors at places such as hospitals, infirmaries or shelters, mainly downtown; nine occurred outdoors while the locations of the remaining 26 are unknown. The way that the city learned of the hospital deaths in 2017 is likely because staff at a community agency or shelter reported to the city that some of their clients died in hospital.
The leading known causes of death were drug overdoses (27), cardiovascular disease (10) and cancer (9). There were 28 unknown causes of death, with three cases undetermined pending further investigation. The remaining 23 deaths covered a broad range of causes grouped as “other.”
“Although some of the leading causes of death, including cardiovascular disease and cancer, are common among the general population, the most striking feature of these data is the relative youth of the decedents,” the report states. “People experiencing homelessness in Toronto are living more than 30 years less than the overall population, on average.” --99.230.xxx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: May 5, 2018 12:33 PM
Before moving to Charlotte I lived in the heart of the city in Philadelphia. Panhandlers galore. I was fine when it was a family I would offer to buy them food rather than give them money for booze or drugs. The ones that drove me crazy were the young men who could have gotten a job as a laborer but chose to panhandle instead.
I've lived in Charlotte since 2003 and I can count on one hand how many panhandlers I've seen since living here. --71.75.xx.xx
OT: panhandlers (by myob [GA]) Posted on: May 6, 2018 4:55 AM
Price of C-co nuts are up. switching to Pineapples. see how they'll complain about that. Probable riot!!!!!! --99.103.xxx.xxx