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Class A & LGBTQ (by NE [PA]) Apr 21, 2018 12:08 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by Jason [VA]) Apr 21, 2018 12:22 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by LindaJ [NY]) Apr 21, 2018 12:26 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by NE [PA]) Apr 21, 2018 12:34 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 21, 2018 1:00 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by razorback_tim [AR]) Apr 21, 2018 1:20 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by Barb [MO]) Apr 21, 2018 1:25 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 21, 2018 2:26 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by S i d [MO]) Apr 21, 2018 6:58 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by Lynda [TX]) Apr 21, 2018 9:59 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by Livethedream [AZ]) Apr 22, 2018 12:31 AM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by John2 [MI]) Apr 22, 2018 3:20 AM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Apr 23, 2018 11:21 AM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by Wilma [PA]) Apr 23, 2018 12:40 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by WMH [NC]) Apr 23, 2018 1:01 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by Pmh [TX]) Apr 23, 2018 2:43 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2018 3:02 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 23, 2018 11:13 PM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by John... [MI]) Apr 24, 2018 6:13 AM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by Busy [WI]) Apr 24, 2018 10:36 AM
       Class A & LGBTQ (by JT [GA]) Apr 24, 2018 7:10 PM

Class A & LGBTQ (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 12:08 PM

Ok. I don't know where THIS post is going to go, but I want to see what other folks see regarding this. I personally don't care the either way who rents my units as long as they screen out.

I have noticed (or I think I have noticed), that my class A high end units attract a larger portion of the LGBT crowd. Not that I care, just an observation. More of the L,GB, no T's or Q's yet.

I showed 2 of my nicest units today. Both Class A, both highest priced. Both groups of prospects, LGBT.

Now, is there any correlation between high end units and this?

A lot of the gentlemen I see that come to view these are spotless!! Spotless clothes, spotless vehicles, etc. Not sure of the housekeeping, I'm sure it's spotless.

What I'm thinking here is that with the higher end clothes and cars and the spotlessness, that they are drawn to a higher level of unit? this typical and what is the outcome for you typically?

*disclaimer, I'm not looking to get into any "fair housing" or "discrimination" type discussion. What I'm interested in knowing is if this group gravitates to nicer places and can I target this niche and make some $.

I'm looking at it from a higher rent, cleaner unit stand point.

Oh boy..... I hope I don't regret hitting submit! Haha.

Class A & LGBTQ (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 12:22 PM

I think you're fortunate to have such an interest from this community. Lets face it, stereotypes exist for a reason and gay men are stereotypically clean, organized individuals. Most don't have children, which means they have more disposable income than a family with children would (if all else was equal across the board.)


Class A & LGBTQ (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 12:26 PM

As I have said a few times on this board, I don't care what my tenants personal lives are like. I don't want to be involved in drama, I don't want "in my face" activism, but other than that, it is their home.

I have mid 1800s houses, older, but charming. For years I have said I wish I could find a couple of gay men to rent. They do seem to do such a nice job of decorating. I see lots of gay men couple's houses profiled in my house and home magazines. Very enviable.

Most people with higher end clothes and cars are looking for higher end units. Of course the other side of this is the people who want to look higher end, but really can't afford it so they spend for the showy stuff that people see, clothes and cars.

I know a home inspector that would often tell me of how he inspected a higher end, expensive house. Half the rooms were empty, you could see they were not lived in. He figured people spent so much on the house they had little left for furnishing. But people who drove by or new the address didn't see that.

Are you in an "artsy" area? --96.236.xx.xx

Class A & LGBTQ (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 12:34 PM

I'm in NEPA, definitely not an artsy area. Jason hit on what I was getting at, the correlation between the higher rents and the extreme cleanliness.

Class A & LGBTQ (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 1:00 PM

Me,I'll just enjoy the nice sunshiny day and keep quiet.being quiet is the better part of see noothing, me know ............................................

Class A & LGBTQ (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 1:20 PM

The stereotype doesn’t always hold true based on my experience. --70.178.x.xx

Class A & LGBTQ (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 1:25 PM

There are plenty of people in that community who are slobs. You are just getting the cream to look.

May be a duplicate post. I got caught by the filter a minute ago.

Class A & LGBTQ (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 2:26 PM

Two incomes can afford a better place. Men tend to have higher paying jobs for one reason or another. People who don't look like slobs get better jobs.

Now I had one today that screened himself right out. The carpet measure guy. Do you have good credit? No I got a divorce. I heard that the folks downstairs are noisy. I like a quiet place. The male has a motorcycle. I don't want to be hearing that in the morning.

Next. Besides I think he might be of the size to break toilets.

Class A & LGBTQ (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 6:58 PM

I am currently renting a $450 place to a T and have rented places ranging from $365 - $550 a month to several G and L in the past.

I've also evicted someone who was G and someone who was L...both were slobs and left the place in poor condition.

So for what that's all worth, I think we can put the labels and the stereotypes aside. All types of folks in all types of markets and price ranges.

My rules are the same for everyone: If you pay the rent, keep the place decent, obey the law, and are a good neighbor, I'll rent to you if you're a one-eyed, one-horned flying purple people eater. If you fail in those areas, you get denied or evicted. --173.17.xx.xx

Class A & LGBTQ (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 9:59 PM

Some of my best ever tenants were 2 L women who were clean, courteous, wonderful tenants. One was a business executive of some kind (the wage earner) and the other was younger, pretty, artsy girl who painted and made jewelry (the homebody). They had 2 dogs, VERY well trained, retired military dogs I was told.

This was my first time renting out our original home when DH got a military transfer overseas, my first time renting to people with pets. It started my whole renting-to-pet-owners niche. They bought a house of their own and moved out. I was sorry to see them go.

Class A & LGBTQ (by Livethedream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 12:31 AM

LGBT people are no different from anyone else. Some are community leaders and business owners. Some are marginalized or have mental health issues, others are doctors and lawyers. Some are slobs, some are OCD. You should see my pantry. :)

As some here know I am lgbt. Our home is in an upper scale HOA neighborhood but driving by it looks like any other. Maybe a little better landscaped than most. At home my spouse and I are like anyone else, we watch tv, do computer stuff, clean machine guns.

Oddly enough I've only had one gay tenant. He owns a chain of pawn shops. He rented from me years ago when starting his local store. Left the place spotless. And bought a home on a golf course.

So yes NE I think you are right lgbt folks are more likely to be good tenants than bad. But screen the same. Nice car, nice clothes, good job, probably nice tenants. Less likely to move kids or relatives in. Some have revolving partners. And anyone can lose a job or get hooked on drugs. But I feel (financially and socially) STABLE lgbt people are likely to be very good tenants.

Class A & LGBTQ (by John2 [MI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 3:20 AM

We have had all flavors and colors of the rainbow.... the niche market that we’ve been able to establish is the “pet” people... People straight and gay are waiting till their older and established to start families so they have pets.... some do good with a pet others not so good.

Class A & LGBTQ (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 11:21 AM

With no kids and extra disposable income, I see a lot buying fixer-uppers or being the first in a neighborhood undergoing rejuvenation.

Class A & LGBTQ (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 12:40 PM

@Livethedream - "clean machine guns" like anyone else - I got a laugh out of that!

Class A & LGBTQ (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 1:01 PM

But "Stereotypes are such time savers!" (T-shirt from The Onion that I got for my husband a few years ago.)

I can't remember if I've ever rented to any G's, but I know we've had at least a few L couples. One great (married, stable, good jobs, 2 dogs and a cat) one marginal (Drama! They broke up and moved) then one couple who were some of the worst tenants we've ever had (litigious, dishonest, stole the appliances, etc. That was back in (2004?) before we knew what we were doing...)

So pretty much the same as all the straight couples we've had.

Class A & LGBTQ (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 2:43 PM

you MUST screen as you do for anyone. not sure why orientation is a topic of discussion. totally irrelevant.

Class A & LGBTQ (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 3:02 PM

I will screen like anyone else, not the discussion.

Class A & LGBTQ (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 11:13 PM

My experience:

People are people.

Slobs are slobs and neats are neat.

My observation parallels with Jason- childless with disposable income seems to be the differential.


Class A & LGBTQ (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2018 6:13 AM

Like AllyM and LotF said above: I think a lot of it comes down to such a couple being more likely to be dual-income-no-kids. Therefore, they can afford higher end places.

And, sure, there are stereotypes that often hold true. In my personal experience, it just so happens that several of the L couples that I know flip/restore houses -- and several of the G couples that I know do not -- but tend to buy or rent very nice places ("Class A", as you said).

Sure, there are always exceptions. But I do see a lot of that stereotype holding true.

- John...

Class A & LGBTQ (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2018 10:36 AM

LTD, I'm busting a gut laughing. Keep 'em clean, and carry on!

Class A & LGBTQ (by JT [GA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2018 7:10 PM

I have noticed that gay men are often the first into gentrifying neighborhoods in my city of Atlanta. I think they are the pioneers because they don't have kids, they don't have girlfriends or wives (fewer safety concerns), and they tend to like to live next to each other in urban areas.

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