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Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by NE [PA]) Oct 13, 2016 7:25 PM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Oct 13, 2016 8:01 PM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Vee [OH]) Oct 13, 2016 8:09 PM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Lisa. [AZ]) Oct 13, 2016 8:57 PM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Rick [IN]) Oct 14, 2016 2:27 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by hollis [MA]) Oct 14, 2016 3:32 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by RB [MI]) Oct 14, 2016 5:36 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by BillS [CO]) Oct 14, 2016 6:56 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Amy [MO]) Oct 14, 2016 6:59 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by S i d [MO]) Oct 14, 2016 7:09 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Deanna [TX]) Oct 14, 2016 7:18 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Jason [PA]) Oct 14, 2016 7:51 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by NE [PA]) Oct 14, 2016 8:44 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Laura [MD]) Oct 14, 2016 11:39 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by John2 [MI]) Oct 15, 2016 5:50 AM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 16, 2016 1:42 PM
       Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Lana [IN]) Oct 16, 2016 5:51 PM

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 7:25 PM

Is it possible to get nicotine poisoning or shock from being in a unit with extensive smoke damage? I have been in the $8,500 clunker 2x so far. The last time I was in there, I was looking around, getting ideas, rough material list, etc. I started getting a headache so bad I had to leave.

I spoke with the attorneys today when I went in to pick up some papers from them and they said that the closings papers stunk so bad after the lady left of cigarette smoke, that they threw them out and reprinted them.

I posted some pics on my page of the smoke damage.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 8:01 PM

Had a rental unit like where took a pressure washer to clean most of nicotine off the walls then painted the entire with special oil, alkyd base sealer to seal up the nicotine on the walls.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 8:09 PM

Get a litmus for testing meth remnants, you dont notice it till you get back to clean air, I had 2 meth houses near me - next door one sold for 1900, across the street was cousin to Castro who had the girls in chains for 9 year - that one is sitting since feb at 7000, needs everything indoors, all the grass/house check guys say it is horribly stinky in there...

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Lisa. [AZ]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 8:57 PM

Ours was not nearly as bad as yours, but I did leave there a few times where I was not feeling normal at all.

Cough, dry throat, headaches so bed that I missed work...

And now it is cleaned up and I can come and go from there with no issues.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 2:27 AM

Technically no. Nicotine constricts capillaries so that blood flow to the brain and other body parts are affected. You could work through it but that is hard to do with a horrible headache and nausea. Open all windows for at least a few days.

Sometimes you can apply a bit of strong scented lotion or perfume right under your nose and then start cleaning. --75.104.x.xx

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by hollis [MA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 3:32 AM

I had three workers and myself get sick when we tried to quickly turn over an apartment as new tenant felt they needed to be in right away.

We had inherited an old smoking couple when we bought the building and when they finally moved, there was a yellow coating on everything that required a number of washes before we could even think of painting. This was a relatively small apartment and since we had so many people working I thought we could knock this out really quickly, however it took a long time but it was interesting that nobody wanted to quit and go home even at a late hour.

I finally insisted that these people went home and we would start again tomorrow. Next day came and I found out that one of the ladies had a panic attack and the others including myself had a very hard time getting any sleep as we were over stimulated by the nicotine apparently. All felt very lousy the next day. We now require that if we had a smoker apartment that everyone has to wear gloves so as not to absorb any nicotine's and other chemicals that are found in smoke.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 5:36 AM

Empty house syndrome.

( A real bowel mover )

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by BillS [CO]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 6:56 AM

Wear gloves when you clean. My wife got sick from nicotine when she washed the walls of a unit (before we started hiring this out). It gets absorbed through the skin.

My vote though is meth. They smoke it and what doesn't get into their system sticks to the walls and ceiling. It then goes out into the air.

There is a test kit you can buy online. They overnight it to you and you get instant results. Otherwise you can take a swab and have it tested. Takes about a week with standard turn around.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 6:59 AM

You could just be allergic/sensitive to smoke.

I used to work at a restaurant in the smoking section, I had headaches almost every day and didn't put two and two together until later. Even now, when I go to a smokers house (even when they aren't smoking)for any length of time I will have a headache the next day.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 7:09 AM

Maybe hire smokers to do the clean out / wall scrub / Kilzing? If they're experiencing the same issues, then it will be clear it's not the nicotine.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 7:18 AM

One of our early projects was a house codenamed StinkyCat due to the previous owner's habit of keeping her cats locked up in sheds and a certain back bedroom. What could have been sprayed, was sprayed, by ten or fifteen years' worth of cats. It was the house that taught me the difference between structural damage vs cosmetic damage.

I had just had DS2, and my sister was staying with us to help out. She also helped tear out wallpaper over at StinkyCat. We didn't connect the dots at the time, but I do think that working in such an environment did have an impact on her health, as she always felt poorly after finishing a session. After a few hours breathing in that air, and all the dust and who-knows-what stirred up by peeling off eighty years' worth of wallpaper... yeah. --209.33.x.xx

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Jason [PA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 7:51 AM

2 tips-

Have them tint your primer as close as possible to your top coat, it works really well

Seriously, rollers dont like nicotine walls, they skid and get slower. TRY USING A CHEAP AIRLESS SPRAYER THIS TIME. Use a spray shield around windows, trim do minimal taping - youll do great

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 8:44 AM

I thought meth too, but I don't think that's it. I indirectly know the sellers through the person they bought the house off of years ago.

The owners were slow/somewhat mentally ill. I pretty sure, but not 100%, that it's just nicotine. It certainly smells like it.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2016 11:39 AM

Yes, yes yes. I have had it twice. Once diagnosed by a doctor when I quite smoking and used the nicotine gum to stop. i used too much. The second time ( I knew it was nicotine poisoning because of the previous experience) was cleaning a foreclosure purchase occupied by a heavy smoker.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by John2 [MI]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2016 5:50 AM

Yes..... we remodeled a sfh that someone smoked 4 packs a day in..... rubber gloves and tsp did the job.... lots of videos on YouTube about this too!

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2016 1:42 PM

I have heard that nicotine can be absorbed into the blood stream via skin contact. That would have to be a huge concentration though.

Nicotine Poisoning/Shock? (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2016 5:51 PM

You can certainly react to nicotine/cigarette smoke like you do without an overdose. Many people, especially ex-smokers like myself, are highly sensitive to nicotine. I get a stuffy head, sore throat, headache, and cough. I also smell all my applications because paper really absorbs cigarette smoke well and I spot the people who lie about smoking this way.

I know of 2 situations that lead to death by nicotine. Tobacco handlers must use gloves as nicotine is transported across the skin and they can die of nicotine toxicity. And, the medical literature has documented a woman who committed suicide by wearing multiple nicotine patches.

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