PITA tenant (by Amy [WI]) Jul 14, 2008 7:58 AM|
PITA tenant (by Matthew [LA]) Jul 14, 2008 8:01 AM
PITA tenant (by Brenda [TX]) Jul 14, 2008 8:02 AM
PITA tenant (by Stephen [WA]) Jul 14, 2008 8:13 AM
PITA tenant (by otter [KY]) Jul 14, 2008 8:42 AM
PITA tenant (by sid [MO]) Jul 14, 2008 9:15 AM
PITA tenant (by otter [KY]) Jul 14, 2008 9:20 AM
PITA tenant (by OrEGone [OR]) Jul 14, 2008 9:37 AM
PITA tenant (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Jul 14, 2008 10:03 AM
PITA tenant (by jawja [GA]) Jul 14, 2008 10:36 AM
PITA tenant (by Nancy [IN]) Jul 14, 2008 11:10 AM
PITA tenant (by Steve [MA]) Jul 14, 2008 7:03 PM
PITA tenant (by Amy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 7:58 AM
State Specific Question About: WISCONSIN (WI)
So I'm getting rid of a pain in the butt tenant. He's on a MTM right now. I gave him a very generic 30 day notice and of course now he's calling and asking why and what he can do to rectify the situation. Basically, he's an a-hole, doesn't respect us or anyone else in the building, we suspect he's dealing drugs (no proof), and the good tenants hate him and are threatening to move out because of him. He also makes a big stink every time we need access to his unit (very suspicious!) SO, what would you tell him if anything? I really don't want any sort of retaliation against the complaining tenants. This guy's a real jerk. I don't technically need a reason on a MTM in WI do I? --24.12.xxx.xxx
PITA tenant (by Matthew [LA]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 8:01 AM
Use this phrase repeatedly if needed - I have other plans for the unit.
PITA tenant (by Brenda [TX]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 8:02 AM
That's the nice thing about a M2M is that you don't need a reason. Make sure that you DO NOT tell him that his neighbors complained about him. Personally, I wouldn't respond at all. But if you feel like you must just tell him that there is no rectifying the problems that you have been having with him. Saying anything at all might lead to some retaliation. --167.6.xxx.xx
PITA tenant (by Stephen [WA]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 8:13 AM
Salesmen call it: Overcoming objections. Every time you say you won't buy they ask why (you feel compelled to give reason/objection), and then salesman explains why this should keep you from buying. This is where the tenant is putting you - if you give him a reason why he has to move, he will work on wearing you down on why that isn't reason to cause him to move or he can fix it or ...
Best answer - what Matthew said: "I have other plans for the unit." No explanation, no discussion. Repeat as often as necessary - "I have other plans for the unit." "I have other plans for the unit." "I have other plans for the unit." --207.200.xxx.xxx
PITA tenant (by otter [KY]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 8:42 AM
There are SO many nice things about M2M... I'll never have anything else, although I suspect it will make it hard to sell it... --162.114.xx.xx
PITA tenant (by sid [MO]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 9:15 AM
If you want a reason try this: I'm planning to do extensive rennovations to the unit and will be raising the rent from xxx to xxxx (say $500 to $1000 more than his current rent). And the deposit will also increase by this same amount. Now if you're willing and able to find somewhere else to live for 3 - 6 months while I do the rennovation and then pay the additional $1000 - $2000 for first month's rent and security deposit, then we can talk about you moving back in early next year...
While someone might be creative enough to find a reason around that, I doubt it. Then once he's out you cannot get a loan from the bank for your project and so just decided to rent it again. Darn the luck! --168.166.xx.xx
PITA tenant (by otter [KY]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 9:20 AM
I disagree, Sid; no reason is required, so don't GIVE a reason; it's a Pandora's box. --162.114.xx.xx
PITA tenant (by OrEGone [OR]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 9:37 AM
I do the politician thing. I explain in depth what a MTM agreement is and that either party can give notice at any time for no reason. Making it as long and boring as possible.
You could get into a story that you think that their might be wood rot under the unit. You need it empty for the contractor to do an estimate.
Basically bore them to death, just like most of my posts here.
PITA tenant (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 10:03 AM
Give them NO REASON.
Anything you say could end up in court. Don't give them anything to get their teeth into. --199.46.xxx.xxx
PITA tenant (by jawja [GA]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 10:36 AM
isn't an M2M called tenancy "at will" for a reason? --24.98.xx.xxx
PITA tenant (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 11:10 AM
Do not LIE, as one poster suggests. You haven't seen retaliation until you lie to a tenant and he catches you.
Just stick with the "other plans for the unit" phrase. --65.54.xxx.xxx
PITA tenant (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2008 7:03 PM
There is no need to give a reason. you only have to give proper notice in accordance with your rental agreement. If he does not comply then follow thru with an eviction.
As others have stated if you feel that you need to say something just say that you have other plans for the unit. I am sure your plans include getting a non-PITA tenant in ASAP.(g) --72.85.xxx.xx