 collecting $ for damage (by Walt [MN]) Jan 18, 2008 6:30 PM
 collecting $ for damage (by Laura [GA]) Jan 18, 2008 6:36 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Irish [MD]) Jan 18, 2008 6:46 PM
collecting $ for damage (by walter [MN]) Jan 18, 2008 6:59 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Laura [GA]) Jan 18, 2008 7:04 PM
collecting $ for damage (by walter [MN]) Jan 18, 2008 7:05 PM
collecting $ for damage (by walter [MN]) Jan 18, 2008 7:05 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Laura [GA]) Jan 18, 2008 7:08 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Minnesota John [MN]) Jan 18, 2008 7:22 PM
collecting $ for damage (by walter [MN]) Jan 18, 2008 7:37 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Minnesota John [MN]) Jan 18, 2008 8:29 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Minnesota John [MN]) Jan 18, 2008 8:31 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Rayh78 [VA]) Jan 18, 2008 8:47 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Gwen [OH]) Jan 18, 2008 10:52 PM
collecting $ for damage (by Walt [MN]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 6:30 PM
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State Specific Question About: MINNESOTA (MN)
PLZ READ ENTIRE POST
Last week I posted how renter put nickle size hole in fiberglass shower. When I emailed her how she did it, she emailed me that a crack was there when she moved in and she went to the hardware store to get filler of somekind and says she fixed it. Now its a filled nickle size gray spot. My signed agreement says to inform me of anything that needs repair.She did not which pretty much proves she must be lieing or why would she try to fix it. I never brought the subject up again after she lied to me about it.I never accused her of it. I just asked her how she did it. That was my ONLY approach with her via email.She has moved out but has to come back and get a few things and clean the place. My agreement says she does not get damage money back till 3 weeks after move out date. Here is the question. Can I withhold the $125(estimate) of damage money and include the receipt from the professional repairman without telling her ahead of time that I plan to do this? I am afraid if I tell her ahead of time, she will continue to deny it and then won't clean or may even break something to get even. I prefer she finish cleaning, exit, then I mail her $125 less than what she 1st gave me. I expect a rebuttle but I know she is lieing and she knows it too. No I did not have a preinspection.But like I said, paperwork says to report any damages to me and she signed that paper. what do you think. Yes i know she can bring me to court. Bring it on cuz i know I am right. She moved in 3 years ago and I have been in her apt many times in the bathroom and there was no damage. ITs recent that this happened. not when she moved in. --71.63.xxx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by Laura [GA]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 6:36 PM
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Do you have a move in inspection form filled out and signed by her?
If so, and no damage is noted--I would do the security deposit accounting within the time frame allowed-deducting the cost of this repair and any others, and mail it! You do not need to tell her ahead of time. Many things are noted after the tenant moves out and you have time to properly inspect. That's why you have time, given by the law of your state, to send the SD acctg. --76.97.xx.xx |
collecting $ for damage (by Irish [MD]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 6:46 PM
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So...you do NOT have a pre-move in condition report...but you do have copies of the emails back and forth discussing the shower repair issue...to the the emails as your documentation...
As Laura-GA stated...abide with your state laws regarding the number of days to provide an accounting for the SD...most other members of this board will tell you that a written estimate is sufficient...but then unless your state requires that you send a copy of those estimates or invoices for work done, I would not provide until asked...
But bottom line...$125 should still somewhat be chump change to you..perhaps not to the tenant...I doubt that the tenant would take you to court over $125... --71.168.xx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by walter [MN]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 6:59 PM
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Irish...you word things so well. Yes I have the email where I asked her what she did and the email that she says she did not do it, but repaired it. I never acknowledge that email she wrote. I was too ticked & was afraid of what I might say.I did not realize that I should not include a copy of the repair bill unless she asks for it.No doubt she will ask for it. Wouldn't anyone?Where do I find these local laws that you people keep talking about. --71.63.xxx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by Laura [GA]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 7:04 PM
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Hey Walter--check the link above "landlord/tenant state laws". --76.97.xx.xx |
collecting $ for damage (by walter [MN]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 7:05 PM
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Geeze how could I be so blind. thanks Laura --71.63.xxx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by walter [MN]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 7:05 PM
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Geeze how could I be so blind. thanks Laura --71.63.xxx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by Laura [GA]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 7:08 PM
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No trouble--there is so, so much on this site, it is very easy to overlook something! --76.97.xx.xx |
collecting $ for damage (by Minnesota John [MN]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 7:22 PM
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Walt, what you describe is what I would do. Until you get possession and do an inspection, you really don't know what the damages are. Once you have possession you have 21 days by MN law to return the deposit with an accounting. When she'd done cleaning and gives you the keys, inspect and deduct for any damages from the deposit and send her a full accounting with whatever is left, or a bill for what she owes you. The link for the tenant laws on this site is a good place to go. --71.55.xxx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by walter [MN]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 7:37 PM
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Thanks John. John....be sure to read the end about interestl. Sounds good. She emailed wanting a "walk through" together but I just ignored it. I really don't want to talk about this problem face to face as I know she will get fiesty.I read the laws and it looks like i just have to tell her why I am withholding this but it does not say I have to send her the bill that the guy give me unless she asks for it.
John, do you know the interest rate for the damage deposit? She started here in 2005. I called the tennants union but their mail box is full. --71.63.xxx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by Minnesota John [MN]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 8:29 PM
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It's linked at the attorney general's site. I'm pretty sure it's one percent right now, but it depends on how long she's been there. Come to the chat room (main page, look for the chat room link, then click "chat now") and I'll go look and find it for you. --71.55.xxx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by Minnesota John [MN]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 8:31 PM
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From the AG website:
Interest rate Time Frame
5 percent 8-1-73 to 9-30-84
5.5 percent 10-1-84 to 4-30-92
4 percent 5-1-92 to 3-21-96
3 percent 3-22-96 to 7-31-03
1 percent 8-1-03 to present
--71.55.xxx.xxx |
collecting $ for damage (by Rayh78 [VA]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 8:47 PM
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Also you are still entitled to rent until she gives the property back to you.
If she said she still has to come back because she still has some items there and to clean she has not returned the property to you yet.
Email her and tell her you understand she still has items there and wanted to clean and to let you know when she is 100% out of the property and able to leave the keys. Only then do a move out inspection and make deductions. --71.246.xxx.xx |
collecting $ for damage (by Gwen [OH]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 10:52 PM
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Next time take a few hundred move in pictures, print two index copies, have new tenant sign and date one for your files. Now they know you have picures.
Go ahead and do a walk through. any question of damage or not? Just keep saying, I'll check the move-in pictures.
If they take you to court, the before and after picture of the same area, with the tenants signature, says it all. --151.213.x.xx |
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