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another sect 8 question (by mark g [MA]) Apr 10, 2024 1:37 PM
       (by Phil [OR]) Apr 10, 2024 2:18 PM
       (by plenty [MO]) Apr 10, 2024 2:23 PM
       (by RB [TN]) Apr 10, 2024 2:32 PM
       (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 10, 2024 2:34 PM
       (by ken [NY]) Apr 10, 2024 2:35 PM
       (by jonny [NY]) Apr 10, 2024 2:42 PM
       (by jonny [NY]) Apr 10, 2024 2:46 PM
       (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 10, 2024 3:47 PM
       (by Vee [OH]) Apr 10, 2024 3:57 PM
       (by Steve [MA]) Apr 10, 2024 6:13 PM
       (by Bonanza [NC]) Apr 10, 2024 7:03 PM
       (by zero [IN]) Apr 10, 2024 7:20 PM
       (by mark g [OK]) Apr 10, 2024 11:42 PM
       (by Phil [OR]) Apr 11, 2024 1:13 AM
       (by Bonanza [NC]) Apr 11, 2024 6:47 AM
       (by Steve [MA]) Apr 11, 2024 6:50 AM
       (by plenty [MO]) Apr 11, 2024 7:46 AM
       (by tryan [MA]) Apr 11, 2024 8:35 AM
       (by RR78 [VA]) Apr 11, 2024 7:59 PM
       (by Scott [IN]) Apr 13, 2024 10:49 AM

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another sect 8 question (by mark g [MA]) Apr 10, 2024 1:37 PM

So I got a call from a nasty women who said she was from elder services who said we were harassing that problem tenant and said we couldn't evict a tenet for I think she said 6 months after she called the BOH, She had called them not us, for a slowly dripping facet, another time mold in her bath tub caulking, a ceiling fan with a light blown out , toilet seal leaking etc,..not Real big things and again never calls us to fix things but calls the BOH,..and The local BOH in this small town is happy to write things up,

Does anyone know if this is true,? If this is the case I doubt we can ever get rid of here...

another sect 8 question (by Phil [OR]) Apr 10, 2024 2:18 PM

So what would the basis for eviction be? If it because she is bringing up habitability issues- that would be considered retaliatory and you would lose.

In Oregon- tenant is responsible for replacing light bulbs. The others, the landlord would be responsible for. Fix in a timely manner, and send notice to BOH when done.

If the tenant is causing issues/violations-- you need to be sending copies of that to BOH or "it did not happen as far as they know". They keep records both ways, for and against the tenant & landlord.

another sect 8 question (by plenty [MO]) Apr 10, 2024 2:23 PM

So. So what. Just fix the stuff. Anything that is the tenants fault back bill her. If it was broken by her And not worn out then bill her.

another sect 8 question (by RB [TN]) Apr 10, 2024 2:32 PM


Next !

another sect 8 question (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 10, 2024 2:34 PM

What does your lease say? I am sure you are not the first S8 landlord to have items go wrong.

I don't see a reason to evict any one. I simply just would not renew the lease due the toxic business relationship that has developed.

another sect 8 question (by ken [NY]) Apr 10, 2024 2:35 PM

dont listen to her, evict when you need to --74.77.xx.xx

another sect 8 question (by jonny [NY]) Apr 10, 2024 2:42 PM

I'm a bit confused... do you actually HAVE a tenant that is on section 8 or you are asking these questions?

Earlier you were asking about how to NOT allow them (I think that was you) and now you are stating that they are there and you are being called by the "BOH" (which I have no idea what that even means). Is that your codes dept?

As the others stated, you need to just fix these things and move on, What you want to do for sure is maybe have a conversation with the "BOH" (calmly) and advise them that the tenants are not advising you of any repairs needed, they are just reaching out to them directly.

The other thing you need to do is advise your tenants to contact you DIRECTLY with any repairs or issues that need to be attended to. You cannot fix what you are not aware of.

Are you in a lease with them? If so, when does it end? If you are not in an area/state that requires you to provide a reason for the non reissue of the rental agreement, then just indicate that you are not renewing.

The other option you may have is just increase their rent.

I don't understand if you are actually trying to EVICT THEM (which as the others stated, the reasons above don't really seem to be logical for an eviction) or if you are just trying to end the tenancy (which is NOT an eviction).

If you have no idea what you are doing then it may be time to move on... it seems you are getting yourself into some troubled waters and you don't really know how to swim.

another sect 8 question (by jonny [NY]) Apr 10, 2024 2:46 PM

Also... the "BOH" if it's anything like our Codes Dept... all they do is take the complaint and write it up. Many times they don't even go and look at it, just write it up, site some code violation and send it to the owner to advise to fix it "ASAP".

Just fix it, let them know it's fixed and move on. Again, may be helpful if you advise them personally that you are not being advised by the tenant to fix anything... they are just calling you.

Many tenants are (unfortunately) use to just calling the "BOH" or Codes, etc because in their past... nothing ever happens if they contact the landlord. ADVISE THEM that they need to call you first and give you time to fix it.

Another thought... do an inspection of the property SOON.

another sect 8 question (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 10, 2024 3:47 PM

Installing ceramic disk single handle faucets will easy last 5 years or even more without changing any parts. Washer types faucets are forever problems. For bathrooms have humidity switch where when the humidity builds up the exhaust will come on. Also install a low flow shower with a air mixing type which is going to reduce the humidity as well. Now with the tenant since they are improvements made increase rent once the lease expires. Owning rental units or properties is about fixing things where those costs are passed on to tenants in higher rents. So preventing is the better option. Take toilets install a Niagara Flapper Less toilet then the forever flapper leaks come to end along with a lower flush rate. In the end have to make rental units idiot prove. Also install deadbolt then install a passage lock so they can not lock themselves where have to a key to lock door. Before a tenant moves in all the traps under sinks are taken out then completely cleaned out along all the electrical, plumbing, appliances supplied, locks, smoke carbon monoxide alarms are checked where it is like the pre flight check list. Start off with 10 per cent where each time lease expires another 10 per cent.

another sect 8 question (by Vee [OH]) Apr 10, 2024 3:57 PM

I am thinking you have allowed the tenant to train you, and it is working pretty well if you are not maintaining your place where she lives and the BOH (I think Board of Health) is inspecting your deferred maintenance place, According to HUD - father of SEc8 is tenant is responsible to replace depleted lamps, always gonna be you fixing faucets and water supply pieces parts - use good stuff so you can keep you favorite fishing hole filled and under observation. probably the fastest way to solve this overall is marriage followed by divorce, do your maintenance and get things done before the BOH has any reason to visit - this way you can start to accumulate good property reports from them and you won't need to share wedding cake with that office staff.

another sect 8 question (by Steve [MA]) Apr 10, 2024 6:13 PM

Mark, if you move to raise their rent, terminate their rental agreement, attempt to evict (except for certain issues) or in any way decrease services or access to amenities within 6 months of her call to the BOH, it would be considered a retaliatory action which is illegal in MA.

Rights against retaliation

Although the landlord of a tenant at will or under lease can terminate the tenancy or raise the rent without reason, s/he cannot do so in response to your exercising your legal rights. If the landlord tries to raise the rent, terminate or otherwise change your tenancy within six months of when you contact the Board of Health, join a tenants' organization, or exercise other legal rights, the landlord's action will be considered retaliation against you, unless the landlord can prove otherwise. The landlord will have the burden to prove that your tenancy was changed for reasons other than your having exercised your rights.

You can find a lot more info here;




another sect 8 question (by Bonanza [NC]) Apr 10, 2024 7:03 PM

If you place is not excrement house, why are you accepting section 8. The market is very favorable for property owners right now. Why bother messing with section 8?

In your application process you set the standards to be high - good credit score, good income, no pets, cooperative attitude, on the same job for 2+ years, no third party payers (ie. co-signers, churches, or whatever). The applicant or applicants stand or fall on the merits of your application standards.

You will not be in control of your property in your current situation.

another sect 8 question (by zero [IN]) Apr 10, 2024 7:20 PM

Bonanza I have been singing that chorus for a few years now.

Plenty of good tenants out there that aren't sucking the hind teat.


another sect 8 question (by mark g [OK]) Apr 10, 2024 11:42 PM

OK, AFTER she moved in she applied and got a section 8 voucher, In Ma you have to accept that, now she has gotten a cat which is against our no pet rule, also she smokes also against our no smoking rule, she has caused problems with every other tenant in the building, She demands minor things to be fixed immediately calling the BOH but will only allow our contractor entry 3 hours on Thursdays which is often not convenient to his schedule, The BOH does not care.

she screamed to our contractors men so long and so aggressively they refuse to go there, a marine said he went home shaking for the rest of the day,.. (my wife posted about this before)

I should to point out I have 6 multi buildings with 42 units and owned them for over 3o years and no one has ever called the BOH for anything, not sure what to do as its beyond anything that we have dealt with before, she only pays a small amount of the rent which includes heat and with her temper and sense of entitlement will try to fight any attempt to remove her,

She is by far the worst tenant over those +30 years, I want to be rid of her,but a while ago she talked to an elder abuse agency and they mentioned about maybe she would not have to leave if the BOH has been called,..I believe she has orchestrated things as a tool to stay,

another sect 8 question (by Phil [OR]) Apr 11, 2024 1:13 AM

Sounds like you have a "difficult" tenant. Word of advice; DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. We had one like you have now. My wife was adamant about documenting everything (she worked in a public school system). So glad we did. Did an eviction "for cause" on multiple items. Had several legal things come up afterwards...documentation put us in the clear...the ex tenant did not fair so well.

She can not violate the terms of the lease and hide behind retaliation....but you have to prove it via documentation.

another sect 8 question (by Bonanza [NC]) Apr 11, 2024 6:47 AM

If you have a lease, just don't renew it. Dear Tenant, your lease ends 12/31. Please be advised that you will need to have all your belongings out by noon. Best wishes on your next home search.

Since you are in MA you might want to talk to an attorney that specializes in this. Maybe one of the group can give you some names.

another sect 8 question (by Steve [MA]) Apr 11, 2024 6:50 AM

Mark, I've found that it's always to my benefit to immediately issue a written notice to cure to any tenant who violates our rental agreement. This helps to establish a timeline for the paper trail. IMO you should have issued her a 7 day notice to cure (you should have this in your rental agreement) as soon as you became aware of the cat & the smoking as well as her non-cooperation with your contractors. Once you issue these types of notices, it's extremely important to follow up in writing on them. By establishing & maintaining a proper paper trail you'll be in a much better position if things end up before a judge.

another sect 8 question (by plenty [MO]) Apr 11, 2024 7:46 AM

Then you have enough experience to enforce your paperwork. Is the real issue, no one gives me any stink'n trouble except her and now I have to do something so you can "be happy"...? I would feel that way. So get off your computer and enforce your paperwork. It will take time and efforts but she'll be gone. You are not abusing anyone but being abused! Be gone with her!

another sect 8 question (by tryan [MA]) Apr 11, 2024 8:35 AM

I have never had any luck in the MA courts unless it was for non payment. The one S8 eviction I did was for non payment .... and I received the HUD payment thru the entire process.

Once heard a MA judge say "I will NOT make a family homeless to facilitate a sale." And he delayed the eviction ... again ... and again.

Your results may vary.

another sect 8 question (by RR78 [VA]) Apr 11, 2024 7:59 PM

Could even be a scam to keep rents low.

Housing only need to encourage the sec 8 tenant to call their office with a complaint every 6 months. Then you never could raise rents. --73.251.xx.xx

another sect 8 question (by Scott [IN]) Apr 13, 2024 10:49 AM

This is one of the reasons to have yearly rent increases. Tenants expect it and don't push back when it happens. An ongoing history of yearly increases for ALL tenants gives documented proof against accusations of retaliatory hikes as long as they remain relatively constant.

It should also be written into the lease that tenants will see a rent increase on every anniversary of their lease signing. Thirty-day notices should begin with "It's time for your yearly rent increase".

That said, my S-8 Housing Authority usually dragged their feet getting an increase into my bank account.

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