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metaphorically managing (by livenotonevil [NC]) Apr 9, 2024 5:17 PM
       (by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 6:06 PM
       (by DJ [VA]) Apr 9, 2024 7:38 PM
       (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 9, 2024 7:47 PM
       (by Jason [VA]) Apr 9, 2024 7:56 PM
       (by plenty [MO]) Apr 9, 2024 8:05 PM
       (by ned [AL]) Apr 9, 2024 10:35 PM
       (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 9, 2024 10:58 PM
       (by RB [TN]) Apr 10, 2024 8:14 AM
       (by Busy [WI]) Apr 10, 2024 8:51 AM
       (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 10, 2024 11:57 AM
       (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Apr 10, 2024 12:27 PM
       (by Busy [WI]) Apr 10, 2024 12:31 PM
       (by Busy [WI]) Apr 10, 2024 1:00 PM
       (by zero [IN]) Apr 10, 2024 6:23 PM
       (by Jim [CA]) Apr 10, 2024 6:31 PM
       (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 10, 2024 6:40 PM
       (by Busy [WI]) Apr 10, 2024 7:24 PM
       (by zero [IN]) Apr 11, 2024 7:19 AM
       (by Busy [WI]) Apr 12, 2024 11:00 AM
       (by Nicole [PA]) Apr 12, 2024 11:36 AM
       (by zero [IN]) Apr 12, 2024 4:28 PM
       (by livenotonevil [NC]) Apr 13, 2024 11:39 AM
       (by CJ [FL]) Apr 14, 2024 8:22 AM

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metaphorically managing (by livenotonevil [NC]) Apr 9, 2024 5:17 PM

With the comprehensive lost of personal privacy, how uneasy does one become before refusing to post?

My rental is adjacent to a tract in constant aggressive cultivation and the farmers, who have agronomy degrees, prolly employ the resources they learned at university as well as standard county farming procedures.

What happens when a complaint registers the farmers are clearing the fields with a herbicide such as the standard one marketed in agri suppliers inventory?

I mean it's readily apparent to the naked eye this is a highly productive field where earnings are Dun & Bradstreet three crops annually.

I can imagine tour replies but often the twist of a metaphor closes the mystery.

metaphorically managing (by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 6:06 PM

I canít make any sense out of this post. Billy Madison -everyone is now dumber, comes to mind. YouTube it if you donít know what I mean.

metaphorically managing (by DJ [VA]) Apr 9, 2024 7:38 PM


Are you sober right now?

metaphorically managing (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 9, 2024 7:47 PM

Is your tenant complaining about herbicides being used on the farm next to them?

metaphorically managing (by Jason [VA]) Apr 9, 2024 7:56 PM

The making of a manifesto

metaphorically managing (by plenty [MO]) Apr 9, 2024 8:05 PM

Anything else to share?

metaphorically managing (by ned [AL]) Apr 9, 2024 10:35 PM

There once was a post so queer.

It meandered along 'bout a year.

It seemed crazy at first.

But then it got worse.

It makes me just post "oh dear". --74.132.x.xx

metaphorically managing (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 9, 2024 10:58 PM


Was this the metaphor?

Reminds me of my high school Literature class when we had to write and essay on the opening line of Hamlet "Who's there?"


metaphorically managing (by RB [TN]) Apr 10, 2024 8:14 AM

The opposite of Captain Obvious !

metaphorically managing (by Busy [WI]) Apr 10, 2024 8:51 AM

Live not on evil, for some interesting viewing, watch youtube videos with Gabe Brown, or Dr Allan Savory on regenerative farming. Oh, there's a guy in Georgia, name escapes me now, but I think the farm name has something to do with Oaks who has excellent videos about his regenerative ag journey. He has the fancy degree in agronomy, but was seeing his land continue to deteriorate. Made the switch to regenerative ag, and business is booming, the land is restoring.

The advent of Round-Up ready crops has been one of the worst things we've seen in our lifetimes. Corn, as a vegetable to eat, is no longer delicious; it all tastes like field corn. Yuk! Nutritious value of crops is greatly reduced under modern ag practices. Adding NPK does nothing to create , foster, enhance the rich biome needed to produce delicious, nutritious food. Yes, modern farming produces massive quantity of food, yet nutritional value is minimal.

metaphorically managing (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 10, 2024 11:57 AM

Okay - I will try a bite at this apple.

Many of rentals are in rural areas. Annually the farmer next door fertilizes the ground and it creates quite the smell for a good 7 to 10 days. Do I know what the chemical make of this thing is? Nope. Would I want to know? NOPE.

I do remember a house located next to the largest dairy farm in county went up for auction about four years ago. Where I love a bargain even more than most, I just couldn't see it in me to even bid on the place with over 8,000 head on three sides of the place. The place went for about 40% of what it should have. Semi trucks loaded of manure on a dirt road occur multiple times daily.

Country air is one thing, living that close to that many farm animals - NOPE

metaphorically managing (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Apr 10, 2024 12:27 PM

You are wasting your time to file complaints. What the farmers are doing is legal and when you buy a property right next to the farm, you get to live with farming.

The farm won't close down now that you have moved in and want to change the neighborhood to suit yourself.

metaphorically managing (by Busy [WI]) Apr 10, 2024 12:31 PM

Ray, live not on evil is talking about cash crop and herbicides, not a feedlot. Regenerative farming cures both of those ills though. ( no tillage, no herbicide pesticide fungicide, rotational multi-species grazing, cover cropping, never leave the soil bare.)

Oh, if I were young again, I could buy an acreage and set up a regenerative ag farm. At my age, food forest is probably best I can manage. One of my brothers and his wife bought fifteen acres where they built a house, brother is putting his ag degree to use, but with organic practices. Donít think they have livestock yet, but, I could see chickens, the gateway livestock, in their future. He has figs and pawa paw, grapes, lots of fruit and veg.

metaphorically managing (by Busy [WI]) Apr 10, 2024 1:00 PM

Oh, and Live not on evil, you are planting deep-rootednative plants on your rental properties, yes?

Lots of native graminoids have been shown to break down ag chemicals in the soil, and, of course, the deep roots hold soil, reduce erosion, create pathways for rain to percolate deep, deep into the soil, as well as reducing impact of a heavy rain on the soil by catching, slowing the rain as it lands on the plants. And, of course, well-sited trees, shrubs cangreatly reduce heating and cooling loads on a building. Shrubs provide best nesting habitats for song birds, and have some of the deepest roots; ninebark, Physocarpus opulifolious is frequently reported as having roots that go 30 feet deep, and recently, I have heard 60 feet. Donít know about either of those measurements, but , Im sure they go deeper than a basement.)

For low cost, I collect branches of local shrubs, and just poke them in the soil, water frequently the first couple of years, and protect from rabbit and deer browse. Works well on riparian species, those which like to grow along riverbanks, as that is how MaNature spreads them. Branches break during heavy spring floods, flow downriver, get stuck along the banks, water level goes down, and a new shrub was planted.

I dried up a heavily-flooded back yard with willow, viburnum, elderberry, dogwood. Even the neighborís very flooded yard doesnít get as wet. Iím convincing that tenant next door to let me poke some sticks in to replace the invasive honeysuckle, buckthorn, and Norway maple that is in the wet space.


metaphorically managing (by zero [IN]) Apr 10, 2024 6:23 PM

My daughter's place is not in a flood zone but it sure looks like it.

I would consider a willow, but I am afraid of the roots ruining the septic which is old at best.

Are the other's you mentioned not as bad on the septic system as a willow? --107.147.xx.xx

metaphorically managing (by Jim [CA]) Apr 10, 2024 6:31 PM

What are you smoking?

metaphorically managing (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 10, 2024 6:40 PM

Ray, you could have petted them.

metaphorically managing (by Busy [WI]) Apr 10, 2024 7:24 PM

Zero, unfortunately, a lot of plants that are good at drinking up water are opportunists ( ok, all plants are opportunists) but anyway, those that like lots of water will go after any source they can reach. Having said that, we have silver maples, red maple, and redtwig dogwood very near the end of our 63 year old septic, never a problem. The silver maple was almost over the septic line.

But, any plants with deep roots should help funnel the water down into the soil. So, maybe just try some of the deep rooted native grasses and shrubs. I believe ninebark is native to your area, and, if I recall, it can handle quite a variety of soils, including clay, and tolerates a wide range of moisture levels. Reason I'm pushing native plants so much is our insect population relies on them for raising their babies, which the songbirds rely on for raising their babies. And, the cycle goes on from there. ( we need insects, birds, animals, plants.) One of my favorite grasses is Sporobolous heterolepsis, Prairie drop seed. Its as pretty as any ornamental grass, and reportedly has large fibrous root system.

Two online native plant nurseriesI order from: Prairie Nursery, Westfield Wis, and Prairie Moon Nursery in Minnesota. Even if one doesn't want to order from them, they are great sources of information. There are other online native plant nurseries closer to your area, and probably some local nurseries have started to carry natives, or cultivars of natives, which can host insects sometimes.

metaphorically managing (by zero [IN]) Apr 11, 2024 7:19 AM

Thanks for all that info.

I will pass it along to the kid and see what she can find out. --107.147.xx.xx

metaphorically managing (by Busy [WI]) Apr 12, 2024 11:00 AM

Sorry to be so long-winded on plants, environment. Its always been my passion. Shoulda got a degree in biology, but, as the saying goes," Crime pays, biology doesn't."

metaphorically managing (by Nicole [PA]) Apr 12, 2024 11:36 AM

I also have no idea what the first post says.

I will say where I live we have "agricultural security areas". Basically this means you are living in the boonies and the smells, machinery, animals having sex in public and the noise are all permitted. Many "city folk" who want the "country experience" have no idea what is actually involved and can't complain ... well they can but they are told by the township, "tough $hit" !!

metaphorically managing (by zero [IN]) Apr 12, 2024 4:28 PM

Was an old guy in the county that everyone called Hoggie. He raised pigs. He was a pig as well. Collected junk on his property. Out in the boonies so nobody cared.

Then someone bought property next to his and built a McMansion.

Then more came in and the complaining started.

By the end of it all he spent thousands on lawyers and still lost all his rights. Fined for his junk. Got rid of the pigs because new neighbors complained. It was sad really. Had the opportunity to do a job for one of the complaining neighbors. I turned it down because of that.

From third grade until I moved out we lived next to the largest pig farmer in the county. (not the same guy)

We had to deal with the smell when the winds changed or they were cleaning out the barns. Meh, they were there first.

Due diligence and all that. --107.147.xx.xx

metaphorically managing (by livenotonevil [NC]) Apr 13, 2024 11:39 AM

Your comments will no considered with the utmosst sincerity. At my advanced age, eyeing end of life choices, I am enouraged few ppl on here are in my boat. Blood lust for land grabbing it's the new degree offering at School of Jonquil. Thank you.

metaphorically managing (by CJ [FL]) Apr 14, 2024 8:22 AM

What metaphor? I haven't read all the responses yet, but are you saying your tenants are reporting to you the use of herbicides by the farm that may harm them? Is that your question? Plain english a lot further.

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