can't turn down sect 8 (by carol g [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 2:20 PM
(by RB [TN]) Apr 9, 2024 2:28 PM
(by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 2:35 PM
(by DJ [VA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:07 PM
(by carol g [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:22 PM
(by Jim [CA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:37 PM
(by carol g [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:52 PM
(by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:57 PM
(by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:58 PM
(by ken [NY]) Apr 9, 2024 3:58 PM
(by Steve [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 4:27 PM
(by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 9, 2024 4:58 PM
(by Jason [VA]) Apr 9, 2024 5:51 PM
(by MikeA [TX]) Apr 9, 2024 7:41 PM
(by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 7:44 PM
(by ken [NY]) Apr 9, 2024 7:53 PM
(by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 9, 2024 8:38 PM
(by Jim [CA]) Apr 9, 2024 9:23 PM
(by Jim [CA]) Apr 9, 2024 9:23 PM
(by Vee [OH]) Apr 9, 2024 10:03 PM
(by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 10, 2024 11:48 AM
(by carol g [MA]) Apr 10, 2024 1:19 PM
(by John... [MI]) Apr 10, 2024 4:43 PM
(by WMH [NC]) Apr 10, 2024 5:38 PM
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can't turn down sect 8 (by carol g [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 2:20 PM Message:
So I see many here will not accept section 8 people so how do you get away
with that?
I called the housing authority that said you can't not accept section 8 and would be against housing law with a big legal penalty over it, Also the same with a current tenant that applies for section 8 --73.126.xx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by RB [TN]) Apr 9, 2024 2:28 PM Message:
Do ya believe everything ya hear
or just from the section 8 office ? --69.130.xxx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 2:35 PM Message:
Stop calling these people and figure out solutions in the gray areas of operation. --174.249.xx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by DJ [VA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:07 PM Message:
In VA, I may not discriminate based on the source of an applicant's income.
That means I "have to" accept Section 8.
The local housing authority really helps because they take so long to schedule an inspection ( and completing paperwork)
Then, if they find the slightest thing wrong, so that the home does not pass inspection, it takes more time to re-schedule another one.
There is no law (yet) that says I have to take the place off the market until they are processed, or that I have to lower my standard qualification requirements.
What I'm doing now is focusing on mid-term rentals. These traveling professionals don't typically ; ) have a voucher. --68.229.xxx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by carol g [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:22 PM Message:
I have been dragged thru agencies before , at a high legal cost, last one by adult protective services that cost me 11k so far from a mean old lady with dementia, and claimed harassment because against our MTM she violated rules of smoking and pets,.and screams that "she knows her rights!" and calls the BOH instead of us about any little thing, like small drip of her facet, a window that is hard to raise ,...a Window World window installed 6 years ago, stains of the bath tub caulking, etc and has pointed out to neighbors that she knows she can't be evicted for 6 months if the BOH is called,
So yeah,..I'm cautious --73.126.xx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by Jim [CA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:37 PM Message:
Usually section 8 tenants cannot pass all my requirements and the problem is solved. --146.70.xxx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by carol g [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:52 PM Message:
to Jim [ca]
but what if they can,..but then applies for section 8? --73.126.xx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:57 PM Message:
You’re talking about section 8 after they move in? Different scenario. --174.249.xx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 3:58 PM Message:
Applicant "Do you accept Section 8?"
Landlord "Yes, I accept Section 8, but they don't accept me! Section 8 requires a first year's lease and I only rent month-to-month"
--24.2.xxx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by ken [NY]) Apr 9, 2024 3:58 PM Message:
I am in NY SO I cant turn down section 8.I allow them to attempt to lead the conversation and they rarely are capable and just end up saying goodbye.Instead of asking for a workers name and number i tell the tenant to have the worker call me,they never do --74.77.xx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by Steve [MA]) Apr 9, 2024 4:27 PM Message:
Carol, the PHA case worker is partially correct, but I think that you might be not understanding what the PHA case worker is actually saying. In MA you cannot deny an applicant a rental unit for a variety of reasons. If you don't want to accept a S8 tenant, you just need to find another legitimate reason to not accept them.
Unlawful discrimination
Massachusetts Fair Housing law prohibits discrimination in housing on the basis of race, religion, national origin, age, ancestry, military background or service, sex, sexual preference, marital status, disability or the need of a guide dog, except owner-occupied two family dwellings. A landlord also cannot refuse to rent you an apartment because you receive a rental subsidy, because the apartment contains lead, or, with some exceptions, because you have children.
Do you have a written list of minimum qualifications that an applicant must have to be considered? One of my qualifiers is that an applicant cannot have caused a Landlord to spend money to either make the tenant follow their rental contract or to spend money to remove them from a rental. Another easy qualifier is they need to fully complete their rental application which is something they rarely do.
Are you a member of Mass landlords or one of its subgroups? I find them to be an excellent source of what you should do & more importantly what you shouldn't do a rental property owner in MA. If you join & participate in any of their groups, you'll have the opportunity to meet like-minded LLS. Once you make a few connections you should be able to ask these types of question either in person, via email or by phone instead of posting them on a public forum.
Here's a list of the sub groups;
Mass. Chapters
For now, regional Google groups comprise members in:
Berkshire County (Pittsfield)
Greater Boston (Cambridge)
Cape and Islands
Central Worcester County (WPOA)
Charles River (Greater Waltham)
Franklin County
Greater Brockton
Greater Haverhill
Greater Lawrence
Greater Lowell
Greater New Bedford
Greater Springfield (RHAGS)
Greater Taunton-Attleboro
Lawrence (Spanish only, solo Español)
MetroWest (MWPOA) google group
North Shore
Northern Worcester County
South Shore
Southern Worcester County (SWLCA)
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can't turn down sect 8 (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 9, 2024 4:58 PM Message:
If ever possible then it better to consider eventually separating out all the utilities as governments want all inclusive rentals. What is happen in Canada and the Us immigration the population has expanded where the number of all types housing has not therefore vacancies can be zero or one per cent on and off so the housing authority is really finding it difficult to find lower cost vacant rental units. Look at raising rent along with make upgrades. --207.236.xxx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by Jason [VA]) Apr 9, 2024 5:51 PM Message:
It varies by state. In mine, we cannot discriminate based on source of income. I still have other steep requirements they most often can’t meet. --172.58.xxx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by MikeA [TX]) Apr 9, 2024 7:41 PM Message:
I thought the NY Supreme Court struck that down last July when they sided with landlords in Ithaca that stated it violated the constitutional rights of landlords since it required an inspection which you couldn't opt out when required to accept S8? --209.205.xxx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 7:44 PM Message:
There’s your loophole then. Yes, we take Section 8. No, you’re not doing an inspection. --24.152.xxx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by ken [NY]) Apr 9, 2024 7:53 PM Message:
MIKEA - I would like to read that,any idea how to find it? --74.77.xx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 9, 2024 8:38 PM Message:
Here you go: ithacavoice.org/2023/07/ithaca-renting-company-wins-case-brought-by-ny-attorney-general-over-section-8-vouchers/ --64.246.xxx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by Jim [CA]) Apr 9, 2024 9:23 PM Message:
Carol, I look for three times their portion of the move-in funds, two years uninterrupted employment, No evictions in the last seven years, a debt ratio of 3: 1 income to debt and a FICO of 700.
My Golden rule is no tenant is better than a bad tenant. --146.70.xxx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by Jim [CA]) Apr 9, 2024 9:23 PM Message:
Carol, I look for three times their portion of the move-in funds, two years uninterrupted employment, No evictions in the last seven years, a debt ratio of 3: 1 income to debt and a FICO of 700.
My Golden rule is no tenant is better than a bad tenant. --146.70.xxx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by Vee [OH]) Apr 9, 2024 10:03 PM Message:
For those using the 3;1 income qualifier, HUD raised this in 2003 as part of the Patriot act, this and the breath easy no smoking rule has made it hard for bum tenants to obtain places wih vouchers - HUD aske us to do the in-home inspection with breath easy, you see ahtrays in existing unit, disqualified-,Next Batter done. --184.59.xxx.xx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 10, 2024 11:48 AM Message:
Take the light switch cover off in the living room just before the inspection - and refuse to correct it. --24.101.xxx.xxx |
can't turn down sect 8 (by carol g [MA]) Apr 10, 2024 1:19 PM Message:
WOW!
Thanks to all for your advice!
Some of you really put a lot of effort in your answers, what a great site this is!
Ray I remember under the post "if section 8 fails inspection"
here that it was said by Steve [ma] and he gave reasons that that wouldn't work.
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can't turn down sect 8 (by John... [MI]) Apr 10, 2024 4:43 PM Message:
MA is a "source of income" state -- so you can't deny because they have a Sec8 voucher -- but you can still deny people with Sec 8.
I disagree with those saying to purposely fail inspections. I think that is asking for trouble.
I agree with those that just make it clear that you can set other minimums FOR ALL APPLICANTS which Sec8 applicants aren't going to reach. The "must make 3x the rent at a job or other verifiable income" is what I think works best.
That way, you have the SAME requirements for ALL of your applicants and don't have to cheat around anything by tanking an inspection.
--107.181.xxx.x |
can't turn down sect 8 (by WMH [NC]) Apr 10, 2024 5:38 PM Message:
You should always use the same requirements for any tenant, and 3-3.5 times the rent in income (of any sort) is one of ours, along with 2x the rent as a Security Deposit, the ability to have the utilities turned on in their name, no smoking, no non-neutered/spayed animals, no violent crimes against people or property, and no evictions.
If I change one of those requirements for someone just because they are Section 8, I have just discriminated against EVERYONE ELSE I ever turned down for any of those reasons. --173.28.xx.xxx |
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