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Backyard sitting area (by Art [CA]) Apr 5, 2024 9:05 PM
       (by Jim [CA]) Apr 5, 2024 9:14 PM
       (by plenty [MO]) Apr 5, 2024 9:31 PM
       (by Allym [NJ]) Apr 5, 2024 9:32 PM
       (by NE [PA]) Apr 6, 2024 7:19 AM
       (by DJ [VA]) Apr 6, 2024 8:07 AM
       (by Scott [IN]) Apr 6, 2024 10:05 AM
       (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Apr 6, 2024 10:22 AM
       (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 6, 2024 10:36 AM
       (by Busy [WI]) Apr 6, 2024 12:25 PM
       (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 1:54 PM
       (by Art [CA]) Apr 9, 2024 10:19 PM

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Backyard sitting area (by Art [CA]) Apr 5, 2024 9:05 PM

Hi, as a landlord, am I responsible to fix (right away) leaky roof of detached backyard sitting/playing area, that is not in rental agreement? I will be fixing it as a goodwill for my tenants as I communicated with them. I just need to know the legal side of it, am I legally obligated? Thank you.

Backyard sitting area (by Jim [CA]) Apr 5, 2024 9:14 PM

It needs to be fixed, but itís not a top priority because itís not a livable dwelling. To me, if it took 60 days that would not be unreasonable.

Backyard sitting area (by plenty [MO]) Apr 5, 2024 9:31 PM

I would think you would want to fix the leaky roof right away. Yes do that for sure.

Backyard sitting area (by Allym [NJ]) Apr 5, 2024 9:32 PM

Little things like this sitting area keep your tenants for you. I have some things like that. Have a gazebo in one yard and the tenants love it and I am sure it is part of what keeps them living there even though there is a scary neighbor. I have a similar item at another location which is a big cement back porch. It did not have a roof so I got a metal shade. It's a perk. Tenants love it. I have a generator there too because one tenant became ill and needed secure oxygen. His wife is still there. In one building now I have big reverse osmosis water filters because the local water is very bad. I will advertise that for sure if the current tenants ever leave. These kinds of things can attract people with better finances to a neighborhood with issues and keep them there. Other things would be: allowing pets, pet fences in the yard, decks, central air. These are things you can add to make your building more attractive to more stable people.

Backyard sitting area (by NE [PA]) Apr 6, 2024 7:19 AM

How necessary is this out building to the rentability of the property? Iíd be inclined to remove something like this from a rental. Maintain it, maybe. Install a new one specifically at a rental property? No way.

Backyard sitting area (by DJ [VA]) Apr 6, 2024 8:07 AM

What do you mean t's not in the rental agreement?

Do you mean this roof structure is not specifically listed as something included/provided with the rental?

Is it specifically excluded/tenant is not allowed to use it?

If it was there when they moved in, & they have been able to use it to keep the sun and rain off their heads while outdoors, then it should be maintained.

Ally makes a good point - do you want them to continue to be happy living there, or start to think of you as someone who does not maintain things & therefore they should start thinking of moving (before something worse is not repaired)?

Like Jim said, it's not an emergency, but I would assure them it will be scheduled as soon as possible.

Whether or not you are "legally obligated", in my opinion, isn't really the deciding factor. Of course, in CA, the laws can require anything : /

If you don't know, research your local laws.

Backyard sitting area (by Scott [IN]) Apr 6, 2024 10:05 AM

Around here, I would not be legally obligated to maintain that roof until it gets bad enough for Code Enforcement to be involved.

Fix the roof. The longer you wait, the more expensive it gets.

Backyard sitting area (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Apr 6, 2024 10:22 AM

That leaky roof is doing damage to the structure. Get it fixed while it is still small.

It's not about "legally obligated". It is about taking care of your investment and maintaining the value. Those little out building things have become quite expensive to have built. You already have one, so take care of it.

Backyard sitting area (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 6, 2024 10:36 AM

Owning a rental home or rental units there is going to be costs to maintain. If the structure is damaged then when it comes time to sell that price is going to go down. Major repairs if amortize costs over a period years is part of maintenance. Expense out repairs when filling income taxes. One day when sell more money can be invested in retirement.

Backyard sitting area (by Busy [WI]) Apr 6, 2024 12:25 PM

Sometimes its as easy to fix as a dab of roofing caulk. Patched a couple if bullet holes in a garage roof that was only couple of years old. Stupid idiots think if you shoot straight up nothing gets damaged. Though one hole was from a lower angle.

And, yeah, with neighborhoods were patching bullet holes is a common skillset, you betcha I like to hang on to good tenants.

I agree if protecting my investment by repairing sooner rather than later. Though, sometimes, life gets in the way. Thatís when ya gotta just make time, even if it means hiring it out.

Backyard sitting area (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 9, 2024 1:54 PM

Is this your structure or the tenants? If it is yours, why wouldn't you want to keep your place up. If it is the tenants pop up cover - there is a reason why it they say it is the tenants property.

Backyard sitting area (by Art [CA]) Apr 9, 2024 10:19 PM

I appreciate all your advice. Sure, I will repair it ASAP; there is no question about it. I guess as Jim [CA]) posted

"itís not a livable/residential dwelling." There are no specific rules for that.

Thanks again.

Respectfully Art

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