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Furnished rentals niche (by Robin [WI]) Jun 30, 2020 9:05 PM
       (by BillW [NJ]) Jun 30, 2020 9:25 PM
       (by Ken [NY]) Jun 30, 2020 10:00 PM
       (by Sir Walter [NC]) Jul 1, 2020 5:16 AM
       (by RentsDue [MA]) Jul 1, 2020 9:12 AM
       (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 1, 2020 12:37 PM
       (by Ken [NY]) Jul 1, 2020 1:37 PM
       (by Robin [WI]) Jul 1, 2020 8:50 PM
       (by Busy [WI]) Jul 2, 2020 9:51 AM
       (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 2, 2020 3:15 PM
       (by Sir Walter [NC]) Jul 3, 2020 5:13 AM
       (by Don [PA]) Jul 3, 2020 11:23 PM
       (by Robin [WI]) Jul 4, 2020 10:50 PM
       (by Sir Walter [NC]) Jul 5, 2020 3:19 AM
       (by Andrew [CO]) Jul 6, 2020 12:26 PM
       (by DETRA [MD]) Jul 6, 2020 1:04 PM
       (by mike [CA]) Jul 6, 2020 2:24 PM
       (by Todd [WI]) Jul 6, 2020 4:22 PM
       (by seagal [CA]) Jul 6, 2020 5:02 PM
       (by CS [NY]) Jul 6, 2020 7:31 PM
       (by Phyllis [TX]) Jul 9, 2020 12:08 PM
       (by Robin [WI]) Jul 11, 2020 8:36 PM

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Furnished rentals niche (by Robin [WI]) Jun 30, 2020 9:05 PM
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In the interest of developing income that is more "passive" as we get older, we decided to try furnished short-term rentals. We bought a four-unit of 2BR apts. in a factory town that has periodic shutdowns for retooling and a large hospital.

With the pandemic, we thought things were going to be tough for a while. We've been pleasantly surprised. We haven't been at 100%, but we've rented to guys in town for a surveying job, a traveling nurse, a doctor waiting for his house to be built, and someone doing summer sales. When the place is full, we bring in almost 4x the going rate for a vacant apt. Expenses are higher (we pay utilities), but not that much higher!

We seem to have unexpectedly stumbled on a niche. There are lots of single rooms for rent in people's homes (everyone in town knows about the seasonal workers), but nothing for someone who wants a space of their own. So if you're considering trying something short-term....it might be worth a try! --104.230.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by BillW [NJ]) Jun 30, 2020 9:25 PM
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Hey Robin, I rent to students and am a strong believer in furnishing units:

1. I show my places occupied and they look way better with my furniture.

2. reduce damage move-in and out.

3. reduce chance of bedbugs.

4. students are happy to pay extra for furnished apartment/house.

It pays to get sturdy furniture and maintain (check tightness of chair screws, etc.) --100.35.xx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by Ken [NY]) Jun 30, 2020 10:00 PM
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A friend of mine rents a couple places to guys here building distribution centers,they moved on and she found another group.A place worth about $1200 month she was getting $3500 furnished with nothing special items,she paid utilities and had someone clean common areas weekly. --104.229.xxx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by Sir Walter [NC]) Jul 1, 2020 5:16 AM
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Ken[NY]

I'm familiar with the short-term rental niche, particularly in a resort area.

I have a few questions on the furnished rental, particularly with the distribution center niche.

1. Does your friend provide bed linens and towels, or do they?

2. If your friend has multiple bedrooms, how does he/she handle roommate situations where one roommate swaps out for the other?

Who is responsible for damages as people move in/out?

3. I'm assuming that damages are mitigated, because someone is coming to clean weekly.

4. I'm assuming that these are workers coming in for short-term assignments, or just moving into the area, so the in-home visit may be more difficult.

5. I'm assuming that they found a contact in the distribution center to post vacancies.

Any corrections of assumptions or other details that you can give would be useful.

Thanks in advance.

--98.122.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by RentsDue [MA]) Jul 1, 2020 9:12 AM
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Interesting. I am in the process of unfurnishing some rentals. I’m not renting to students anymore. I tried renting the furnished places to non students and didn’t have much luck. The furniture is all newer and high end. When I advertised unfurnished I got great applicants. I guess the market really is local. Other than the college, there really isn’t anything that would draw in anybody who needs furnished or short term. I’m jealous. --68.118.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 1, 2020 12:37 PM
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Robin, Thank you for sharing. How do you advertise your furnished property to draw people in?

What is the best way to determine if there is a niche for this in your area?

How did you decide what to charge?

Does this four unit have a common area?

When you say "short term", how long does that mean? --73.120.xx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by Ken [NY]) Jul 1, 2020 1:37 PM
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Sir Walter- 1 I think they provide there own linens 2 Not sure,i haven't heard of anyone moving out separately,i believe they come as a group and leave as a group when they head to the next project,the company they work for pays the rent so I will assume if someone quits and gets replaced my friend may not even know it happened.3 I don't think much for damages,these guys are working 12 hour days so probably just kind of dirty but the company probably just writes her a check then deals with them themselves.4 no in home visits she doesn't do it with her regular rentals and these guys are from all over the country. 5 she has a contact who subs the work for the distribution centers so it is not actually Target but whoever is doing the work for Target. I doubt she knows anything about the guys actually staying there,she deals with her contact and they send a check every month and that is all she cares about --104.229.xxx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by Robin [WI]) Jul 1, 2020 8:50 PM
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6x6: A guy my husband met at a local REIA meeting told him about the opportunity. There's a refinery in town that does periodic shutdowns/retooling. They bring in lots of plumbers, electricians, etc. to do it who get paid a per diem. At the time, they were doing a huge project, and guys were paying through the nose to stay at fleabag motels 30 miles away.

We charged slightly less than their per diem, which was about half what the one nice hotel in town was charging.

We started by advertising on AirBnb and taking flyers to the local union hall. We set a minimum stay of 7 days to weed out vacationers who might expect something a little nicer. One contractor found us through Airbnb and brought the others in. That initial crew stayed 5/6/7 months until the shutdown was over. Now we're getting stays ranging from 7 days to 3 months.

The property is an old Victorian house that was divided up into apartments. Each apartment has two bedrooms and an eat-in kitchen. No living room. They all open out onto the porch, so no common areas really.

I hired a local gal to manage it, as we're too far away. It's taken some training, but she's learning and doing great. --104.230.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by Busy [WI]) Jul 2, 2020 9:51 AM
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When we were living in another state, the small town we were in was experiencing phenomenal growth, there was only one motel in town, people were commuting forty-sixty miles daily to work. I met someone doing just as you described. She was providing bedsheets, kitchen utensils even. Most tedious for her was counting all the items at turnover, to charge for what was missing.

One suggestion I would have to deal with counting the ‘smalls’ was to have a ‘package’ of those small items that the tenant would purchase at the start, tenant could take them with when they go, or leave extras for the next tenant. I didn’t get to discuss the business too much with this person- we were in an entrepreneur class at uni, I had suggested as our project for the class we consider renting small houses directly to the businesses that were bringing in all of these workers, found out she and her husband were doing this. She didn’t want to use this as our class project, as she didn’t want to present the idea to a class of potential entrepreneurs, in a small town.

But, she did say they were doing well with it. With your markets, the opportunities for this would be great, as there is a much larger pool of companies expanding, bringing in workers. Our little town out west was so small, that when two companies ran into serious trouble, ( after we had moved, but friends told us,) her market would have almost dried up overnight. But, then those houses could have just gone back to being ordinary rentals... --70.92.xxx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 2, 2020 3:15 PM
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Thank you Robin --73.120.xx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by Sir Walter [NC]) Jul 3, 2020 5:13 AM
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Thanks Robin, Ken, and Busy.

--98.122.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by Don [PA]) Jul 3, 2020 11:23 PM
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Robin. You opened describing this as more passive income. Seems to me to be just the opposite. You are closer to running a motel than renting out real estate. --69.248.xx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by Robin [WI]) Jul 4, 2020 10:50 PM
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Sir Walter: You are very perceptive. Originally, my husband partnered with the REIA guy. DH provided the funds, and the other guy rehabbed the property and provided the management. At least, that was the idea.

Several thousand dollars in legal fees later, the partnership is now dissolved. DH is still debating whether to press criminal charges. That's a story for the next convention! So yes, it hasn't been as passive as we'd like, but we're getting there. --104.230.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by Sir Walter [NC]) Jul 5, 2020 3:19 AM
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Robin, Thanks for sharing.

Sounds like we both have interesting stories to share. :-) --98.122.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by Andrew [CO]) Jul 6, 2020 12:26 PM
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Hey Robin, are you willing to share the location? I'm wondering if I can find a similar type area in my state. --74.220.xx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by DETRA [MD]) Jul 6, 2020 1:04 PM
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Rented short term for the first time. I prorated the move in rent. Tenant is leaving on the 10th of August and wants that prorated too. What is the norm for this? Thank you. --108.31.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by mike [CA]) Jul 6, 2020 2:24 PM
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unless you have a trusted deputy to handle the chores with repeated turnover there's nothing passive about that plan.

i do know folks that make great money doing what you describe but they are earning every dime --66.27.xxx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by Todd [WI]) Jul 6, 2020 4:22 PM
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With prorating rent for mid-month moves. You can really do what you and tenant agree to, subject to your state/local laws. On a short term rental (less than 6 mo), I will pro-rate because I have an upcharge on short term rentals. So tenant is already paying a higher rent. Plus in Wisconsin landlords are not allowed to collect rent from more than one person for the same period on the same unit. So if the tenant vacated on 10th and you had a new tenant on the 17th, You would have to refund the balance of the pro-rated rent to the tenant. For long term tenants, 1 yr or less, I would prorate the first mo rent to reflect the move in date but last day of lease would be end of month. Bookeeping is simpler when running month to month 1st to 1st. Simply mo to mo agreement with first mo pro-rated.

--174.103.xxx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by seagal [CA]) Jul 6, 2020 5:02 PM
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Not all cities will allow this. We tried. The rules in many CA cities are very subjective to interpretation. We found the majority of CA cities treat short term rentals the same as Vacation rentals - a HUGE no-go in many CA cities - FYI --67.174.xxx.xxx




Furnished rentals niche (by CS [NY]) Jul 6, 2020 7:31 PM
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We have both short term/Airbnb furnished rentals where people stay anywhere from a 3 day weekend to 6 months and long term rentals.

The furnished rentals pay more and it’s a better class of tenant, but they are also more demanding (internet isn’t working, power went out bc of a storm, when will it be up?) and it is so much more work.

Regular rentals are easy except for at turnover. Need lots more screening and ya gotta open a lot of oysters to find a pearl with those tenants, however.

We are in an area where local populace is “rust belt” but it is close enough to NYC where there is a sizeable weekend/vacation rental crowd.

After COVID (and even before) there were a lot of people who were becoming disenchanted with city life and are trialing moving to the country. They have money and good credit. But are transient and high maintenance. Local folk will rent the same place for years and never a peep, but you aren’t getting market rent.

I’m still on the fence as to which rentals really “pay” better. I make equivalent of $250/hr in my day job so demanding tenants who suck up time with texts and phone calls are pretty expensive. If I didn’t have a day job or had a lower paying one, short term furnished all the way.

Hubby is “property manager” but mostly fixes/cleans/enforces things. Has low tolerance for hand holding city folk who can’t figure out how to reboot the modem or light the gas grill. --24.105.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by Phyllis [TX]) Jul 9, 2020 12:08 PM
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Does anyone have ideas for renting short term 3-6 months or long term 12 months or longer for unit near beach in the area of Tulum Mexico? --193.56.xxx.xx




Furnished rentals niche (by Robin [WI]) Jul 11, 2020 8:36 PM
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Andrew, I could share the location, but it really wouldn't do you much good. It is SO local. You might start by researching the location of oil refineries. Apparently shutdowns to retool are fairly common. Another rich avenue is line workers who follow big storms to repair damage to electrical lines.

I would argue that, with a good property manager, this COULD be good almost-passive income. We lucked into someone who's lived in this small town her whole life and lives 10 minutes away. She's semi-retired and loves drama, so she actually relishes the experience of catching the tenants sneaking in pets, kiddie pools, or unauthorized guests. She drives past the property twice a day and runs a tight ship. All this for $15/hr. It can be done! --104.230.xxx.xx



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