New roof and New flooring (by Tom [MI]) Sep 3, 2019 3:28 PM
(by David [MI]) Sep 3, 2019 3:50 PM
(by S i d [MO]) Sep 3, 2019 3:56 PM
(by Robert J [CA]) Sep 3, 2019 6:55 PM
(by Vee [OH]) Sep 3, 2019 8:47 PM
(by myob [GA]) Sep 4, 2019 7:34 AM
(by Tom [MI]) Sep 4, 2019 7:51 AM
(by fred [CA]) Sep 6, 2019 9:29 AM
(by Tom [MI]) Sep 6, 2019 2:43 PM
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New roof and New flooring (by Tom [MI]) Sep 3, 2019 3:28 PM Message:
I had put in a new flooring in my rental condo in May. This week I had put in a new roof at the same condo. Flooring cost was $3000.
Roof cost was $4900.
I am looking for the advise on how to handle these expenses at tax time.
During Tax time, Can I claim new roof and flooring as a repair expense or do I need to depreciate the flooring and roof?
Thank your for your help.
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New roof and New flooring (by David [MI]) Sep 3, 2019 3:50 PM Message:
have the invoices itemized so each line item is no more than $2500 then you can deduct everything under new de minimus rules --144.250.xx.xx |
New roof and New flooring (by S i d [MO]) Sep 3, 2019 3:56 PM Message:
NO! Split the invoices into $2500 or less using cost segregation techniques and expense it all ASAP using de minimus safe harbor rules.
Example A:
Roof - $4900 = you have to depreciate it most likely.
Example B:
Tear off old shingles (labor and disposal) $1,000
Deck repair on existing roof: $500
Tar paper and nail - supplies: $500
X-squares architectural shingles $1,500
Installation labor $1,000
Labor & supplies warranty $400
How many of those individual line items require depreciation? MAYBE the shingles, decking, and tar paper. Certainly NOT the disposal & tear off labor that accounts for almost 20% of the job cost. And I would argue that the nails could be expensed. Probably the warranty too.
Bottom line: get creative! Find the expenses among the depreciable items. And if you can get below $2,500, the rules say you can depreciate regardless of what it is. --107.216.xxx.xxx |
New roof and New flooring (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 3, 2019 6:55 PM Message:
I would have gotten a detailed invoice showing the material cost plus sales tax and the labor.
Labor you can write off this year. The sales tax you can also deduct this year. The material like the flooring, shingles and under lay should be depreciated. The flooring, somewhere between 5 to 10 years and the roofing around 20 years instead of the required 27.5 years since the roof will never last that long.
This method you get some of your costs back now and other amounts over time. --47.156.xx.xx |
New roof and New flooring (by Vee [OH]) Sep 3, 2019 8:47 PM Message:
The bill shows rear portion of roof replacement, then the bill for 2020 shows the front portion of roof, the flooring must have went bad when the roof leaked... --76.188.xxx.xx |
New roof and New flooring (by myob [GA]) Sep 4, 2019 7:34 AM Message:
When you start thinking LONG TERM on your projects you will become a natural at dispersing expenses over years. Try prepurchase of supplies also.
When we were waiting on closing properties , years ago, we would buy supplies and bill to other propertys before we closed on the property we actually needed the supplies on.
We also developed the Chris Columbus theory of income and expense. Columbus took a chance. (Gray area in taxes) This will sound crazy but we would roof just the front or back of a house if we saw expenses getting to high for the year. Same with carpeting. Most times carpet in entry and living room den area would be replaced --- bedrooms no. (Of course we use same color carpet. --99.103.xxx.xxx |
New roof and New flooring (by Tom [MI]) Sep 4, 2019 7:51 AM Message:
Thank you all for the valuable advise. I appreciate it. --50.236.xxx.xxx |
New roof and New flooring (by fred [CA]) Sep 6, 2019 9:29 AM Message:
Question: Isn't your HOA responsible for the roof? --99.59.x.xxx |
New roof and New flooring (by Tom [MI]) Sep 6, 2019 2:43 PM Message:
Fred,
All owners are responsible for their own roof. --50.236.xxx.xxx |
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