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Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Mar 14, 2019 11:34 AM
       Disabled tenant (by Moshe [CA]) Mar 14, 2019 11:58 AM
       Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Mar 14, 2019 12:46 PM
       Disabled tenant (by Sisco [MO]) Mar 14, 2019 1:30 PM
       Disabled tenant (by Sisco [MO]) Mar 14, 2019 1:30 PM
       Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Mar 14, 2019 1:59 PM
       Disabled tenant (by Barb [MO]) Mar 14, 2019 2:32 PM
       Disabled tenant (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Mar 14, 2019 3:34 PM
       Disabled tenant (by cjl [NY]) Mar 15, 2019 9:07 AM
       Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Mar 15, 2019 9:46 AM
       Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Mar 15, 2019 9:46 AM
       Disabled tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 17, 2019 9:34 PM
       Disabled tenant (by Steve [MA]) Mar 18, 2019 3:33 AM
       Disabled tenant (by NE [PA]) Mar 18, 2019 3:53 AM

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Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 11:34 AM
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I just moved in a family 2 days ago with a 50 y/o working father, an autistic 24 y/o son on disability, and a mother on disability who is blind and uses a walker. Mother already has asked if she can add a service dog. I already have her SSI proof of income paperwork and her disability is obvious. Last night son was left alone and he obviously tinkered with the toilet guts, so he may be problematic.

Today father asked if we would make the duplex wheelchair accessible by installing a ramp for them. I thought I had to allow then to install at their expense and return it to original when they leave.

I am searching Indiana laws now to see what I can find. Online tenant websites have attorneys who weigh in and say Landlord must install and withold rent in escrow until they do.

Your experiences?

--216.23.xxx.xx




Disabled tenant (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 11:58 AM
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I believe that you are correct that tenant requesting accommodation must pay and repair at his expense.

But you may be looking in the wrong place for information. This matter is part of the ADA law (Americans with Disabilities Act) which is federal law. CA has the same law in its own books and IN may have done the same. But you should look under federal disability law.

--47.139.xx.xxx




Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 12:46 PM
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Thanks Moshe. I have been studying ADA law and I believe I am right too. I do not want to do it myself because I dread code police and can see that it will have a predetermined slope that will go nearly to the sidewalk, will be wider than the existing walk so concrete posts may need sunk, and handrails will likely be needed. I could see this getting real expensive. I was going to offer to paint and maintain if they build with pressure treated wood. I was also going to offer to put down a small threashold ramp between porch and front door.

When I went to their house to get apps, I saw a ramp at their home that was steep and without railing, so I was anticipating a request. Or rather I am still waiting for request. They mentioned it to my handyman and the Lease requires notices to me rather than handyman. --216.23.xxx.xx




Disabled tenant (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 1:30 PM
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Lana, you are correct that a well built ramp to ADA specifications is expensive. However, this is your house, and if you dont stay involved a truly dangerous, eyesore will likely be constructed and your current steps will need much work to make them functional again. --72.172.xxx.xx




Disabled tenant (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 1:30 PM
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Lana, you are correct that a well built ramp to ADA specifications is expensive. However, this is your house, and if you dont stay involved a truly dangerous, eyesore will likely be constructed and your current steps will need much work to make them functional again. --72.172.xxx.xx




Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 1:59 PM
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My mothers trailer came with a nice set of steps and then my hubby built her a little back porch and we moved her steps to this house where they fit perfectly. So we will pick them up and store in my barn,. Lease addendum will require ramp to conform to city codes. I want to keep involved just not 'responsible" --216.23.xxx.xx




Disabled tenant (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 2:32 PM
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You have to allow it, built by a licensed person who has insurance, and who pulls a permit. They have to pay the full cost. They are responsible for the cost of returning the home to pre-ramp conditions when they move out. This is under the Fair Housing Act.

You do not have to pay for it, and you are not required to eat the costs of removing it and fixing where it was attached. You can require them to deposit into escrow the amount your contractor says it will cost to fix the house and remove it when they leave.

They can likely get someone to fund both the ramp and the removal. I would insist on the escrowed removal costs and the permit for the ramp.

For the service dog, ask which GDB org they are working with? The Guide Dog orgs are some of the best. Their dogs are awesome. A GDB dog has sOne of the very best training of all the service dogs.

Keep in mind, a service dog in training is a pet. --131.151.xxx.xxx




Disabled tenant (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 3:34 PM
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You definitely want them to build it and pay for it. If they build it, they can't sue you for building it wrong. --108.69.xxx.xxx




Disabled tenant (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 9:07 AM
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What the others stated above just one comment about this entire scenario though isn't striking you a bit "odd" that none of this was brought up PRIOR to them moving in/ signing the lease?

I mean - the woman is blind BUT now is all of a sudden in need of a service animal? Also about the ramp? Really? All of this just "occurred to them that they want/need these things?"

I'm not against it and I know you aren't either I'm just a bit skeptical.

Make sure that service animal is an ACTIVE one and not "in training" or "retired". If it's not ACTIVE - then it's a PET not a service animal. Plain and simple (I had a tenant years ago that said "my dog is retired service animal but I need him" yeah - no you don't. --209.217.xxx.xx




Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 9:46 AM
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Yes I noticed these happened after Lease signing. What can I say SSI folks have somewhat of an entitled attitude. They knew better than to ask before, we both knew the game. Parents have been married 25 years, all are nonsmokers, and together they make 6 times the rent. I took the leap because the younger couples looking at the place are mostly bound to break up within the year. I never hold much hope when mother, father?, and two children all have different last names. --216.23.xxx.xx




Disabled tenant (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 9:46 AM
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Yes I noticed these happened after Lease signing. What can I say SSI folks have somewhat of an entitled attitude. They knew better than to ask before, we both knew the game. Parents have been married 25 years, all are nonsmokers, and together they make 6 times the rent. I took the leap because the younger couples looking at the place are mostly bound to break up within the year. I never hold much hope when mother, father?, and two children all have different last names. --216.23.xxx.xx




Disabled tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 17, 2019 9:34 PM
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Lana,

Some tips: you can specify APPROVAL OF DESIGN BY OWNER BEFORE CONSTRUCTION.

They need 12 of ramp for every 1 of rise (height). A 16 rise needs a 16 foot or longer ramp.

Suggest they contact local Agency on Aging or such AND Boy Scout office. Several of my Eagle Scouts built ramps as their Eagle Project with donated materials.

I too am suspicious they did not ask and plan for a ramp before signing.

As I understand fully trained seeing eye dogs are free but require extensive training with the patient and animal care expenses.

I hate to sound cynical but this family makes me nervous. Hope Im just overreacting. Weve had similar families that turned into disasters. Medical costs, damage, short of funds, a thousand excuses, entitlement thinking, Dad loses his job-cannot garnish SSI...stay right on top of this lease and the rent.

Take a moment to re-examine their rental history and longevity. I hope Im wrong.

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Disabled tenant (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 3:33 AM
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Do you know if they had either the "DOG" or a ramp at any of their previous places?

If you feel this is going to be a short term rental say 2 years or less consider checking with companies that rent, install, maintain & remove temporary ADA compliant aluminum ramps. --96.237.xx.xx




Disabled tenant (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 3:53 AM
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How did you get yourself in this mess to begin with? --50.32.xxx.xxx



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