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Porn watcher in next apt (by Helen Newbie [NY]) Mar 2, 2019 8:46 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by NE [PA]) Mar 2, 2019 8:49 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 2, 2019 9:08 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by JB [OR]) Mar 2, 2019 9:30 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Charles [FL]) Mar 2, 2019 9:37 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Charles [FL]) Mar 2, 2019 9:37 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Charles [FL]) Mar 2, 2019 9:37 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Charles [FL]) Mar 2, 2019 9:37 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 2, 2019 9:38 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Johnny B. [MA]) Mar 2, 2019 9:42 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Scott [IN]) Mar 2, 2019 9:44 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 2, 2019 9:47 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Lana [IN]) Mar 2, 2019 9:47 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Lana [IN]) Mar 2, 2019 9:47 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by RB [MI]) Mar 2, 2019 9:54 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by AllyM [NJ]) Mar 2, 2019 10:14 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by CX [WA]) Mar 2, 2019 10:22 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 2, 2019 10:24 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by S i d [MO]) Mar 2, 2019 11:17 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by S i d [MO]) Mar 2, 2019 11:49 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Mike45 [NV]) Mar 2, 2019 11:55 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Shirlgirl [NY]) Mar 2, 2019 12:21 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by rentON [PA]) Mar 2, 2019 12:37 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by RentsDue [MA]) Mar 2, 2019 3:53 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Still Learning [NH]) Mar 2, 2019 4:20 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 2, 2019 4:34 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 2, 2019 8:55 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 3, 2019 5:51 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by cjl [NY]) Mar 3, 2019 12:05 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by John... [MI]) Mar 3, 2019 4:03 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 3, 2019 8:16 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 4, 2019 1:10 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Mar 4, 2019 1:47 PM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by John... [MI]) Mar 5, 2019 11:24 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Tj [FL]) Mar 8, 2019 5:45 AM
       Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 8, 2019 5:50 AM

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Porn watcher in next apt (by Helen Newbie [NY]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 8:46 AM
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As a landlord who happens to live in close proximity (next door) to a tenant who all too loudly spends a lot of time watching pornography, should I be concerned that I could be vulnerable or held liable in an any way for enabling this to occur on my property?

In case you are wondering, I dio not query applicants in any way about this habit in their rental application, but am thinking this could have some merit ,,,.

Thank you for responding!

Helen --173.48.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 8:49 AM
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How do you know it's not MTV or CNN? --50.107.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:08 AM
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Helen,

You are totally responsible! You need to put a stop to this as soon as possible. I would tell the tenant what content he can, and can't, watch - right now.

You should have taken the suggestion of other landlord here and vetted this tenant buy going to his house during the approval process to see if he spends his evenings watching porn.

--76.120.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:30 AM
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Maybe you could just suggest that he enjoy "deaf porn." --24.20.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Charles [FL]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:37 AM
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Chances are, depending upon your particular community,the local police probably already know who is tuning in to ILLEGAL material at a given addresses. Nevertheless, your unique question should concern all landlords, and I will look forward to the responses.

CN

--173.48.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Charles [FL]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:37 AM
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Chances are, depending upon your particular community,the local police probably already know who is tuning in to ILLEGAL material at a given addresses. Nevertheless, your unique question should concern all landlords, and I will look forward to the responses.

CN

--173.48.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Charles [FL]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:37 AM
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Chances are, depending upon your particular community,the local police probably already know who is tuning in to ILLEGAL material at a given addresses. Nevertheless, your unique question should concern all landlords, and I will look forward to the responses.

CN

--173.48.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Charles [FL]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:37 AM
Message:

Chances are, depending upon your particular community,the local police probably already know who is tuning in to ILLEGAL material at a given addresses. Nevertheless, your unique question should concern all landlords, and I will look forward to the responses.

CN

--173.48.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:38 AM
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Charles, this is not a landlord concern. --76.120.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:42 AM
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Lol... yes you’ll be liable for any wrist injuries he sustains. --24.147.xx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:44 AM
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It is a LL issue when noise, not content, bothers other tenants. --107.141.xx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:47 AM
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That's not an issue, but rather a concern or problem. The OP mentions content - not residents being bothered. --76.120.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:47 AM
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Tell him to wear headphones and stop infringing on your peaceful enjoyment of your own place. You cannot stop what he does in his own home due to his right to privacy. If he does this, then you likely have other areas where he crosses the line as well. Make sue he doesn't ruin the carpet. --216.23.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:47 AM
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Tell him to wear headphones and stop infringing on your peaceful enjoyment of your own place. You cannot stop what he does in his own home due to his right to privacy. If he does this, then you likely have other areas where he crosses the line as well. Make sue he doesn't ruin the carpet. --216.23.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 9:54 AM
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At least he is doing it with someone he loves. --184.53.x.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 10:14 AM
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Helen Newbie. I am embarrassed by the treatment from some of the people above. The loudness of the tv is all you can complain about and not what he is listening to, unfortunately. You live on the property and own it so all you have to do is give him notice that he is "depriving you of quiet enjoyment of your residence". That's all. Tell him he has a week to correct the problem by turning down the sound or buying earphones. In the same letter, tell him that if he does not stop the noise in one week he must leave the premises, or be evicted, by the first week in April. I think you have to give him a month's notice at least to get him to actually move.Good luck. I just got notice that my awful tenant is leaving next weekend. --173.61.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by CX [WA]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 10:22 AM
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IF you are supplying the internet connection (it is in your name), and the tenant is uploading/downloading illegal materials (think kiddie porn), the authorities may investigate you as the presumed "consumer." --174.21.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 10:24 AM
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AllyM, you are embarassing yourself. Again. First, what you described is not about quiet enjoyment. It doesn't mean what you think it does.

Second, landlords don't complain, they take action. Third, you don't tell the tenant anything. They issue notices to comply, quit, etc.

Fourth, you don't use arbitrary timeframes. These things take place in accordance with the laws of your state.

If you ever become a landlord you will learn these things.

--76.120.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 11:17 AM
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Send the tenant a noise violation notice. Repeat issues will be grounds for lease termination.

It would be good to know your local municipal laws for noise disturbance. In my town, the regs say that "any noise heard outside the unit from the property line shall constitute a public nuisance."

Mutli-units are difficult by nature due to the close proximity of people and the variety of schedules folks keep nowadays. A land lord must be educated on the applicable standards and proactive in dealing with nuisances. Know the law, know your rights, and proceed accordingly.

One thing that might be in your favor: you are an owner - occupant. Some states give live-in owners special rights. You might be able to expedite the removal of problem tenants. I would spend 15 minutes and $50 to call a local, experienced, land lord / tenant attorney and get the correct legal answer in your area. Who knows? He/She might give you a free answer in hopes of gaining you as a future client!

--173.20.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 11:49 AM
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Btw, how many units are in this place you live? If it's just a duplex, maybe any time he starts getting "into some action" put your stereo speakers up against the shared wall and crank up some YouTube videos of baby seals barking. I imagine that would kill "the mood...." ;-) --173.20.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 11:55 AM
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Please remember Helen's question: "should I be concerned that I could be vulnerable or held liable in an any way for enabling this to occur on my property?"

No, you should not be concerned.

Most pornography is legal and you have not indicated anything to suggest that the Tenant (not you) is doing anything illegal.

Even if the tenant is doing something illegal, you are not Law Enforcement and you have no obligation to do anything about his potentially illegal conduct.

As AllyM pointed out, this is merely a noise issue, as if the T is watching John Wayne movies at a high volume. Trat is as a noise issue or ignore it.

--71.38.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Shirlgirl [NY]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 12:21 PM
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Jeff (co) why be so hateful to ally

--97.89.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by rentON [PA]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 12:37 PM
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Don't ever ask him to give you a hand with anything around the property. --67.165.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 3:53 PM
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Noise complaint, nothing more. If the TV wasn’t on and the same sounds ( at the same volume) were audible because of his amorous activity it would still just be a noise complaint. It’s his apartment. --71.10.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 4:20 PM
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You live next door to this person, prior to issuing noise violations have you tried either calling or texting while you are hearing this noise asking the tenant to please turn the tv down or use headphones. The tenant might not realize you are hearing it and lower the volume. If that doesn’t work, then if you are living on property you should have more leniency to send the tenants on their way to a new landlord. --166.137.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 4:34 PM
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With the Police, Housing and other government departments -- each have their own set of rules THAT DON'T Conform to ONE RULE. You'd think it was a landlords responsibility to keep the neighborhood safe for women and children. Not so in Los Angeles.

It is so important that I don't discriminate, that I'm supposed to accept an applicant with little to no income and who's adult children hang around when they aren't in jail or committing crimes. Daughter turns tricks and so is a molester of underage girls.

The City took me to court for a hearing why I turned down this church going women applicant. Her minister was there to protest my management. When I told the board that the night before the police raised her apartment complex looking for her son who was on bond and was reported abusing minors again. The Board wanted me to produce an arrest report. I told them they were crazy, stupid and had the ability to pull the report themselves -- I had no power to do so without a judge granting my motion. --47.156.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 2, 2019 8:55 PM
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Helen,

This is a noise complaint, plain and simple, an everyday issue in landlording. It should be spelled out in any proper lease.

What does your lease say?

My lease is clear: Any music, noise, activity, exercise, cars, mufflers, radio, tv, shouting, voices, singing, machinery, etc must not be audible in the next home or apt.

I make a copy of that page (every page has their initials at the bottom), highlight the clause, and deliver it to them.

Deliver a copy each day there is excessive noise.

Better yet each time the noise is excessive tape the notice to his door, knock loudly, and walk away. Mark successive notices SECOND NOTICE, THIRD NOTICE. Document that you delivered them. Evict after #3.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 3, 2019 5:51 AM
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You don't say that the noise bothers you. If it does I would contact the tenant and let them know that it's too loud.

If it continues:

DON'T knock on their door, DON'T keep posting the same note, and DON'T keep marking the number of notices.

Serve them with a demand for compliance or possession. If it continues after the notice expires, serve them with a notice to quite for repeated violation and file for eviction. --76.120.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Mar 3, 2019 12:05 PM
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Funny how everyone just immediately "jumped" to the conclusion that this tenant is male. On that note … maybe (just maybe) the tenant does not realize or know that the sound is loud enough to be heard from other apartments?

If you haven't advised them of this as of yet (the sound carrying) you may want to. Hey (tenant), I'm not sure exactly what you are listening to at certain times but the sound is carrying through the walls and I can hear it. Could you be so kind to not have the sound turned up so loudly in the future?

That should be enough. If they continue to do so then I would ONLY concentrate on the SOUND - not what they are WATCHING. Also - I'm not sure how or if you could even filter out something on an application. What do you ask? "Do you watch porn loudly?"

Please tell me that if this isn't a joke you were at least not serious about the application/vetting of it.

Good luck. --69.201.xx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 3, 2019 4:03 PM
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Robert J: What the heck does ANY of that story have to do with this simple noise issue??

Sheesh.

-John

--96.40.xx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 3, 2019 8:16 PM
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Helen,Your hearing is too good,I didn’t hear a thing! Or you need to install sound reading board, you should have done that when you remodeled............... Charlie.......... --32.214.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 4, 2019 1:10 PM
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Miss Ally,you gave them a month, you listening too? Just wondering!....... --32.214.xxx.xx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Mar 4, 2019 1:47 PM
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How loud is the volume of his pornographic viewership? Is it only noticeable when you tightly press your ear to the wall? Or can you still hear it when you're in your apartment minding your own business?

The only thing you should be concerned about is a potential ADA compliance issue in the future. All that pornographic video watching could create a need for a seeing eye dog in his future.

And any pre-screening interrogation you do on future tenants to weed out those elements will just make you look so creepy. SOOOOOOO super creepy. --108.69.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 5, 2019 11:24 AM
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"I just thought that I'd do it until I needed glasses!"

;)

--24.180.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Tj [FL]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2019 5:45 AM
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Month to month leases are great for moving along people you find out aren’t who you prefer to live next to you. --66.87.xxx.xxx




Porn watcher in next apt (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2019 5:50 AM
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Almost all of the landlords I know have leases that convert to month-to-month. Signing a new lease every year doesn't make a lot of sense to me. --76.120.xx.xx



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