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Raising rent (by Hoosier [IN]) Feb 21, 2019 9:45 AM
       Raising rent (by David [MI]) Feb 21, 2019 10:07 AM
       Raising rent (by Busy [WI]) Feb 21, 2019 10:35 AM
       Raising rent (by Jim in O C [CA]) Feb 21, 2019 10:39 AM
       Raising rent (by Johnny B. [MA]) Feb 21, 2019 10:39 AM
       Raising rent (by David [MI]) Feb 21, 2019 10:43 AM
       Raising rent (by myob [GA]) Feb 21, 2019 11:52 AM
       Raising rent (by Moshe [CA]) Feb 21, 2019 12:07 PM
       Raising rent (by David [MI]) Feb 21, 2019 12:15 PM
       Raising rent (by CX [WA]) Feb 21, 2019 12:54 PM
       Raising rent (by LindaJ [NY]) Feb 21, 2019 1:26 PM
       Raising rent (by Hoosier [IN]) Feb 21, 2019 2:27 PM
       Raising rent (by Busy [WI]) Feb 21, 2019 2:30 PM
       Raising rent (by RentsDue [MA]) Feb 21, 2019 2:31 PM
       Raising rent (by AllyM [NJ]) Feb 21, 2019 3:26 PM
       Raising rent (by Vee [OH]) Feb 21, 2019 6:16 PM
       Raising rent (by Vee [OH]) Feb 21, 2019 6:16 PM
       Raising rent (by small potatoes [NY]) Feb 21, 2019 7:32 PM
       Raising rent (by JB [OR]) Feb 21, 2019 9:29 PM
       Raising rent (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 21, 2019 10:07 PM
       Raising rent (by Moshe [CA]) Feb 22, 2019 2:10 PM


Raising rent (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 9:45 AM
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I have a house with "marginal" tenants. They are my worst tenants, but they don't behave badly enough to justify immediate eviction...they sure push the envelope though.

Is there anything illegal or wrong with raising rent after the lease is up based on "performance" of the tenant? In other words...

Tenant 1: Great tenant, does it all right...after lease is up I agree to renew for another year at no rent increase.

Tenant 2: Marginal tenant, pays late (with late fees), not caring for property well enough to satisify me, does not communicate/respond, etc....after lease is up I raise their rent 8%.

I've raised their rent twice and they keep paying! LOL

--99.92.xxx.xxx




Raising rent (by David [MI]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 10:07 AM
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I don't understand the question. You don't have to provide any reason for why you're raising their rent after lease is up. --199.247.xx.xx




Raising rent (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 10:35 AM
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In a sfh, other tenants won’t even know. I don’t have any multi-s, but, I suggest looking at fair housing implications. Can it be construed as discriminatory? Tenants will talk. Even some of my sfh Renters may know your other tenants, but, then a variance in rent price can be more easily explained based on different amenities in the houses, or locations’ desirability. In a multi family, it might not look good if the one unit with (fill in the blank) type tenants pays much more than others.

Just thoughts to help you think it through. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Raising rent (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 10:39 AM
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Don't your taxes and insurance go up each year? Do enough of an increase to cover your increased expenses. Wonderful tenants get a small increase where PITS'S get an increase big enough to move or just less enough to cover my misery. --99.23.xxx.x




Raising rent (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 10:39 AM
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I wouldn’t give a reason. I’ve also had good experiences using the self raise method where you let the tenant pick their increase. I’ve only done this with good tenants though. --24.147.xx.xxx




Raising rent (by David [MI]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 10:43 AM
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Busy points out a question I've always wondered about multis. With all my SFHs, I can price all of them completely independently and raise their rents independently. Some of them have rents differ by $100 because they were rented at high season or low season.

For those of you with multis, how do you explain discrepancies in rent to your tenants who will inevitably find out? The discrepancies can easily be simply due to the market at the time the unit was vacant and for rent. But much like variances in salary in the workplace, difficult to explain ... --199.247.xx.xx




Raising rent (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 11:52 AM
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Every year ALL get increased and not just to cover expenses. Jim in OC how can you keep ahead just increasing what breaks you even?

We explain now that the economy is picking up values are increasing on the property's which means taxes are going up and that means insurance is going up. The cost of Royal Caribbean cruise are through the roof and do you know how much a drink package is a day when cruising? Ops!! how they get in there.

Rents in south ATL have gone from around 875 to 1025. 3bd/2ba --99.103.xxx.xxx




Raising rent (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 12:07 PM
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2 prices are important: market price (what you CAN get) and actual price that you charge individual tenants.

There are sometimes worthwhile trade-offs between market price and actual price, based on convenience to LL, ease of getting along, anticipated wear-and-tear, collection of rent, etc.

Absent rent control, there is no reason that you need to be limited in choosing your actual price.

--47.139.xx.xxx




Raising rent (by David [MI]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 12:15 PM
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Sometimes tenants pay so much in pet fees that an increased rent with a new tenant who has no pets would actually be less ! (not even considering turnover) --199.247.xx.xx




Raising rent (by CX [WA]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 12:54 PM
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"...not caring for property well enough to satisify me..."

If you are sensing that their lack of care will result in increased costs to you for bringing the property back up to condition upon their move out, don't be shy about raising their rent, as the SD may not be sufficient to cover the costs for damage repairs. --174.21.xxx.xx




Raising rent (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 1:26 PM
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Don't even give a reason, just tell them if they renew the lease, the price is xxx. I don't do leases, only M2M. One reason being, I can, at ANY time, raise the rent (to an amount that makes it worth while for me to deal with the PITA tenant). If they accept and pay, great, if they move, oh well, NEXT! And it is their choice of what to do. --108.4.xxx.xx




Raising rent (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 2:27 PM
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Thanks all.

Just to be clear, I was never intending to tell them the reason. Yes my units are all SF so no way a tenant could say they were paying more than so-and-so. As one person said above, I've just been raising the rent enough to make it worth any of the misery and account for the damages. I've collected enough over the past year that I can afford a fair amount of re-work once they move out. --99.92.xxx.xxx




Raising rent (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 2:30 PM
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Sfh, raise that rent! --172.58.xxx.xx




Raising rent (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 2:31 PM
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I just raised rent on a tenant after she screamed at me. She didn’t ask why and now is quite pleasant. MTM only for me. --71.10.xxx.xxx




Raising rent (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 3:26 PM
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I seem to recall that if the increase is retaliation for something it can be challenged? But if you are not litigating with them now then you are not formally retaliating and they should not realize that you are retaliating for their bad behavior. We are supposed to raise rent periodically or end up with a building that can't be sold to an investor. --173.61.xxx.xx




Raising rent (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 6:16 PM
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You should be raising everyone or 1 might plead discrimination and prevail in court, single or multi unit.

--76.188.xxx.x




Raising rent (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 6:16 PM
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You should be raising everyone or 1 might plead discrimination and prevail in court, single or multi unit.

--76.188.xxx.x




Raising rent (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 7:32 PM
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why keep the headache? If so then you do not have to worry in my opinion about price differentials. In my 4 family the prices vary by 100. --100.2.xx.xxx




Raising rent (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 9:29 PM
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B.S. I would raise their rent as much as you want to and think nothing more of it. Don't believe or worry that one in a billion chance that you could be considered discriminatory because someone is not treating your property with the care you would like. Just make notes in their file for the reasons mentioned and move on.

BTW, when I send out letters of rental increases I often recommend to the tenants how they can help me keep their rents down. This could include taking care/better care of the things you would like to see improved upon.

Also, if they are doing a particularly good job in another area you can give them kudos for that. Just be smart about the way you word your letter and let them see they can help themselves if they choose to. --24.20.xxx.xxx




Raising rent (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2019 10:07 PM
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Hoosier,

Indiana law allows the LL to raise the rent with a 30 day written notice.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Raising rent (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2019 2:10 PM
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" I seem to recall that if the increase is retaliation for something it can be challenged? But if you are not litigating with them now then you are not formally retaliating and they should not realize that you are retaliating for their bad behavior. "

In most jurisdictions, retaliatory action by landlord occurs after tenant has invoked or attempted to invoke some response from landlord that tenant had a right to request. In short, when tenant attempts to invoke some right which he has, such as asking for repairs, asking for a reasonable accommodation to disability, asking for some facility that building code requires, etx. Most jurisdictions then provide immunity from retaliation for a period of time, such as 180 days.

--47.139.xx.xxx





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