 Difficult tenant (by Anne [MO]) Feb 17, 2019 9:03 AM
 Difficult tenant (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 17, 2019 9:09 AM
Difficult tenant (by Moshe [CA]) Feb 17, 2019 9:10 AM
Difficult tenant (by Anne [MO]) Feb 17, 2019 9:32 AM
Difficult tenant (by Hoosier [IN]) Feb 17, 2019 9:45 AM
Difficult tenant (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 17, 2019 9:50 AM
Difficult tenant (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 17, 2019 9:50 AM
Difficult tenant (by plenty [MO]) Feb 17, 2019 10:46 AM
Difficult tenant (by plenty [MO]) Feb 17, 2019 10:48 AM
Difficult tenant (by Anne [MO]) Feb 17, 2019 11:49 AM
Difficult tenant (by Busy [WI]) Feb 17, 2019 11:56 AM
Difficult tenant (by LindaJ [NY]) Feb 17, 2019 12:28 PM
Difficult tenant (by fred [CA]) Feb 17, 2019 2:47 PM
Difficult tenant (by Anne [MO]) Feb 17, 2019 3:22 PM
Difficult tenant (by Anne [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 9:03 AM
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My tenant gave her "30 day notice" on Feb. 8. She says her
new lease starts March 15. I said she owes for March. She says
she wants to keep possession of house if she pays for March even
though she has said she could be out by March 1. Any ideas on
getting her to pay and leave? --76.0.xx.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 9:09 AM
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What does your lease say about notice to quit? In what part of the month does her lease start? --76.120.xx.xx |
Difficult tenant (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 9:10 AM
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If she pays for all of March, then she is entitled to stay for all of March.
Why do you care if she stays for all of the time that she paid for?
If there is any reason that you want the property for the last half of March for your own purpose, then there ought to be some financial compromise possible.
--47.139.xx.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by Anne [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 9:32 AM
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Her lease runs from Aug. 1 through July 31 so she is breaking her lease.
I want access to the house for repairs/cleaning and for showing the place.I have written a statement for her to sign saying that she can keep possession of the house for all of March as long as she agrees to pay the utilities. She is putting off signing wanting to add her own ideas and has become quite hateful via text. --76.0.xx.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 9:45 AM
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Ah ha...you didn't mention her lease runs through July. Hopefully in the 'proposal' you sent her to keep through March as long as she pays utilities you said something like "this offer may be rescinded at any time prior to receiving a signed agreement from tenant", as this would have prevented her from "dragging this out". Give her a firm date by which she must have this agreement back to you.
Do you have an ELT clause in your lease? If so, she owes based on that language. File for eviction on March 1st by end of day if you don't have March rent. If you have an ELT and she does not pay it, file for the ELT recovery after she has moved out. --99.92.xxx.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 9:50 AM
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First, if the tenant pays rent she has the right to stay.
Second, you can't file for eviction in this case unless the tenant hasn't paid rent, notice has been served, and the doesn't pay by its expiration date. --76.120.xx.xx |
Difficult tenant (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 9:50 AM
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First, if the tenant pays rent she has the right to stay.
Second, you can't file for eviction in this case unless the tenant hasn't paid rent, notice has been served, and the doesn't pay by its expiration date. --76.120.xx.xx |
Difficult tenant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 10:46 AM
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Second of all... if she gives notice and holds over Missouri law is double rent. Howvere it seems you and her have a different agreement that is she signs would create different tetms. --99.203.xx.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 10:48 AM
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Third. If rent doubles then you get paid quite a bit for 15 days in March and she gets to stay. Win win ? --99.203.xx.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by Anne [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 11:49 AM
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Thanks to all who have helped with comments. --76.0.xx.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 11:56 AM
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Anne, if you want access to house for repairs and cleaning, I suggest you tell her you made a mistake, weren't thinking this through. Yes, she can move out by March 8, you'll switch utilities into your name at that time,she'll return keys/dispose of keys and return possession (however you do it.)
And then go re-read the threads about landlord shot over $30 rent increase. Or, about the workplace shot up over a firing of an employee.
In my NEVER humble opinion, the money in landlording, for most of us mere mortal landlords, is made off of rents or property price appreciation, of both, not all those other fees, charges, garnishments, creative financial machinations. It takes a pretty sophisticated person to manuever all of the laws, court systems to get the money out of anything besides rents. At least that is the viewpoint from my office chair. --70.92.xxx.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 12:28 PM
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If she pays for the month she gets to keep possession, whether or not she sleeps there or store stuff there, she is paying you. Now breaking a lease is another story. What does your lease say? If it says 30 days notice, and you accept that it what it is. If you have a ELT fee then she would owe you for that.
If you really want to get in there early, I would tell her you will refund any pro-rated days from when she notified you and turned over the keys. Otherwise, just let pay and stay. --108.4.xxx.xx |
Difficult tenant (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 2:47 PM
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You want her to pay and leave? makes no sense, while she is still under the lease. --99.59.x.xxx |
Difficult tenant (by Anne [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 3:22 PM
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I guess the problem is that I know her new lease starts March 15 but I feel that she owes for the month of March wherever she is because of her breaking the lease. Our next lease will definitely address the consequences of wanting out early on a whim. --76.0.xx.xxx |
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