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FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 2, 2019 6:53 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by RB [MI]) Feb 2, 2019 7:18 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by MikeA [TX]) Feb 2, 2019 7:37 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 2, 2019 7:40 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Feb 2, 2019 8:07 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by LindaJ [NY]) Feb 2, 2019 8:21 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Robin [WI]) Feb 2, 2019 8:22 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Tom [FL]) Feb 2, 2019 10:08 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by WMH [NC]) Feb 2, 2019 10:24 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by JB [OR]) Feb 2, 2019 10:30 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Tom [FL]) Feb 2, 2019 10:31 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 2, 2019 10:44 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Homer [TX]) Feb 2, 2019 10:49 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 2, 2019 11:00 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by plenty [MO]) Feb 2, 2019 11:50 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by RB [MI]) Feb 2, 2019 12:14 PM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 3, 2019 6:17 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 3, 2019 7:41 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 3, 2019 8:55 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Feb 3, 2019 10:32 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Wilma [PA]) Feb 3, 2019 11:06 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 4, 2019 3:31 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Tom [FL]) Feb 4, 2019 9:39 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 4, 2019 12:12 PM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Feb 4, 2019 3:27 PM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Sisco [MO]) Feb 4, 2019 5:04 PM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Tom [FL]) Feb 4, 2019 8:20 PM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Feb 5, 2019 4:43 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Feb 5, 2019 4:46 AM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Feb 5, 2019 1:35 PM
       FSBO / More Photos ?? (by plenty [MO]) Feb 10, 2019 7:41 PM

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FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 6:53 AM
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In my last FSBO post, everyone seems to agree that I need more photos posted. I now want to know WHY.

Do I really need to show every angle of every room ???

My rationale is that it would be better to leave 'something for the imagination' and thus give prospective buyers a REASON to come to the house and see what they did not see in online photos. The inherent problem with any photo is that it is only 2-dimensional. Being there in person (a showing) which is 3-dimensional is always better than any photo can convey. I do not want anyone to reject my house based on solely on what they saw in a 2-dimensional online photo.

Now, can someone give me another argument on why I need more photos vs. my rationale of 'less is more' ? --68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 7:18 AM
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Adds more interest. 8 versus 18.

( But as always, your own way) --184.53.x.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 7:37 AM
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Photo's give you the opportunity to show the best (controlled) views of the house while you have a potential buyers initial interest. Look at it as the bait on the hook, if the hook is sparse then the fish will simply move on to the next until they bite. You have to get them in the front door to take the next step. --50.26.xx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 7:40 AM
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RB,

In a past life, long before I became a LL, I used to get paid mega bucks ($1,200.00/day plus expenses) to take high quality photographs of celebrity homes. (Elton John's hi-rise condo in Atlanta was one of many). In the pro world of photography, one of the first things you learn is: nobody wants to see 100 photos of anything. In other words, you take your 100 photos and EDIT THEM DOWN to about 10 of your very best shots and that is what you show and get paid for. The other 90 photos get tossed in the trash can or get deleted in the digital photo world.

So, that is where I am coming from. I realize I may be old school, but lets be real here, who would want to see 100 photos posted online taken of a house in Class C hood? I mean I could do a series of close-up photos of the new elongated toilet (toilet lid opened and closed),...but who wants to see this? --68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 8:07 AM
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I agree with you Roy,the pictures cant sell the house,all the pictures can do is get enough interest to get them to want to see the house itself. If they cant be bothered to come see the place with a handful of pictures they really arent all that motivated to buy the place anyway --72.231.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 8:21 AM
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I don't want to waste time making an appointment to see a house that is not going to need my needs. I suspect most people are the same, especially class C. Yes, 100 photos are probably too much, but do you show all the interesting things in the room, ceiling beams, hardwood floor, bright windows, Kitchen and Baths are big sellers so all the good angles there. Now if there are not good angles, don't show them! I can never understand why Real Estate listings show me furniture, like the bed in the bedroom and not the closet doors, windows etc. I really don't care that there is even a bed there, and don't want to see the owners bed! Outside photos of the yard too. Like others said, you need enough to hook them to come see more, but not bore them either. --108.4.xxx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 8:22 AM
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Here's the why: if you don't show the second bathroom, I either expect that it's ugly or don't realize that there IS a second bathroom. No, don't show every room from every angle. But DO show me where I'd put the fridge, and that there's a fence at the back of the postage-stamp yard so I don't see the oil tanks on the other side. Show the good stuff, and show what's there so I don't have to read the description. --204.210.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 10:08 AM
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LindaJ of NY and Robin of WI both made very good points that it's important to have al east 25 pictures, 100 is over kill.

You have to remember that 90% of people can not visualize a house without pictures. IF there are no pictures of a bathroom or part of the kitchen. The problem is what's wrong with the house or part of the house.

Go to realtor.com for your area and check out what the professionals are taking picture of in a house.

That being said I am not so sure some of the professional and I use that term carefully "PROFESSIONALS" have no clue how to take a good picture of the house.

I see pics that are blurry. and multiple pics of the same room or front pics. What were they thinking when they took the picture. I am sure from your professional photos of celebrity houses you look at some fo the pics and wonder WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???

The one constructive criticism of the house is the kitchen. The wall cabinets that are hanging in mid air no base cabinets and especially no cabinets on each side of the stove. I understand the straight run of cabinets there are no corners to deal with for counter tops. I would have installed the cabinets on opposite walls, the run of cabinets with the range and on the opposite wall the run of cabinets with the sink.

--99.56.xx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 10:24 AM
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It's a visual digital world. 100 pictures is overkill, but 24 (Craigslist limit btw) is very doable.

Minimum: Full kitchen. Not every corner, no, but a full on picture of the kitchen. Living room, enough angles to get an idea of size. Bedrooms are often hard to take, but at least one shot of each. Ditto bathrooms. And please make sure the toilet lid and shower curtain are CLOSED ;) Laundry room to indicate there is one. --50.82.xxx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 10:30 AM
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What a cute house. I like it. Is there any back yard you can take pictures of that would look good? How about in the garage?

BTW, bring that place to Oregon and I'll give you $200k over your asking price...as-is! --24.20.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 10:31 AM
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This is WHY staging a home is important because many times the buyer can not visualize what that room will look like with furniture.

Roy I am not saying to stage the home but my point is to take plenty of pictures to tell a story of the home. It will help to bring in a buyer that will fall in love with the house.

We as landlord/investors do not fall in love with a house. HOWEVER when buyers are looking at a home emotions play a major role in buying a home. --99.56.xx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 10:44 AM
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Tom (FL)

Back in the day, we use to say the difference between a Professional and Amateur photographer was the Professional has a business card,...LOL. There is some truth to this also. A lot of 'professional' photographers (just like many M & P Landlords) do not have a clue as to what they are doing. Some of the world's WORST photographers just happen to be RE agents. Agents, who are too lazy to get out their cars, will shoot exterior photos through their car windshields.

As far as my kitchen is concerned, adding more base cabinets or kitchen appliances, would have made the kitchen "look small' in any photo. This kitchen measures 9 x 12 feet which is not small but with base cabinets and/or anything else added, would hurt the visual appeal in a 2-dimensional photo. If a wide angled lens could be manufactured to match what our eyes actually 'see' (180 degrees - in 3 D,...that would solve the problem here, however, that lens does not exist and never will. --68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 10:49 AM
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Roy, I am with you. Just enough to peak their interest. Keep it simple. --166.137.xx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 11:00 AM
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JB said "BTW, bring that place to Oregon and I'll give you $200k over your asking price...as-is!

For that amount, I will have the house lifted off it foundation, put on a flat-bed and ship it to you. It is not a MH, but if the price is right,..I will make it mobile!

Many years ago, it was common to see entire foundation built houses loaded on over-sized flat-bed trailers and moved across town or to another city. They always had a police escort too. --68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 11:50 AM
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Do more pictures bump up your ad ? --99.203.xx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 12:14 PM
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I mentioned 18 because of my experience, (REI since 79')

and you come back with an interpretation of 100.

Are you on medication ?

--184.53.x.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 3, 2019 6:17 AM
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RB,

I am off my medications. Now I am real nutcase/sociopath but not nearly as bad as our President DT. I still know how to speak the truth.

I just pulled the 100 number out of thin air. If online sites allowed 100 photos, I am sure people would be posting 100 photos. There is a good reason why online sites (zillow, CL & others) have a photo limit,..so people are not flooding their servers with tons of worthless photos.

--68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 3, 2019 7:41 AM
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When I have a listing, I know there is a "Mix" of interest. A women wants a nice kitchen, bathroom and walk-in closet. A man wants his work-room garage area. Some want an office space while others want a child play area. Everyone wants a back yard with different things.

So I provide photo's for everyone's needs. I did an experiment when listing a home. The results, over 50 couples showing up at the first open house. The diversified picture array was a success. --47.156.xx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 3, 2019 8:55 AM
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Robert J,

My 'For Sale' sign has been in the front yard for 4 days now. I have received several calls but they all have come from males just driving by. Men have only have one thing on their mind,...what is your asking price? I tell them to get a flyer out of the Info Box and call me back. No one has called back yet. But these are Men and men think totally different about houses than women do.

When my Zillow Ad goes live (it has more photos too), I hope to get calls from some women who are more interested in the house than just the cost of it. And at $64,900,..your monthly payment would be $200.00 less than the monthly rent. --68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 3, 2019 10:32 AM
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Roy,you cant just tell them to grab a flyer and call you back,you need to start asking qualifying questions,where do you work? how long on the job? how much do you make? qualify a buyer just like a tenant.Do you not want to sell the house to a male?When they ask the price respond with the monthly payment,they will then say oh that is less than I pay in rent,ask if they have been pre qualified,they will say no,then ask if they would like your mortgage broker to call them to see if they can get a mortgage? give them the combo to see the inside if the basics sound good like income and down payment needed. --72.231.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Feb 3, 2019 11:06 AM
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Gosh, that's a cute place! I think that maybe a few more photos would help - show the deck, as that is listed on the flyer as a feature. And maybe the other bedroom/bath.

Sigh. Around here, for that price, you'd only get the little house in the front. --71.175.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2019 3:31 AM
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Thanks Ken,

I will admit that selling a house FSBO will be a 'learning experience' for me. I need to drop all of my pre-conceived notions about people who may or may not be interested in this house. --68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2019 9:39 AM
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AND

It is a guarantee that you will have low ball offers.

DO NOT be offended by them.

Heres your first low ball offer $45,000.

Now are you going to laugh in their face and refuse the offer or are you going to do like Ken mentioned and get them qualified or just counter the offer.

It's possible that they can only afford and qualify for $45K however this buyer may be trying to get the house for the lowest possible price.

My point is counter this buyer with your asking price and maybe drop it $500.

My point is do not take it personal and be offended, counter the offer and this may be your buyer.

Go to your local bank or credit union and talk to the loan officer. Have him or her do a cost sheet of closing costs on the house and the money down and the monthly payments; and the income needed to purchase this house include this paper work in your flyer. Also consider having an appraisal done by the appraiser for the bank or credit union as well. This will cost you a small fee however you will have your appraisal for the low ball offer that will help to counter low ball offers. --99.56.xx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2019 12:12 PM
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Tom (FL)

Would you take a verbal offer seriously or would you require it to be in writing? I am leaning towards written offers only even if it is just written on a scratch piece of paper.

I will give serious consideration to any 'written offer',... lowball or whatever. Anyone who can prove they have 'all cash and can close quickly' will get my highest attention and motivation.

Today, I took more photos of this property. I now have photos of the inside of the man-cave and the 2nd bathroom. --68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2019 3:27 PM
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Roy,your preferred buyer who will live in this house is not capable of giving you a written offer,you will have to write the contract.They wont make an offer,if you do it properly you will simply get a yes I want it and you walk them through the process by assuming full sale price and writing it up yourself.You are selling the monthly payment not the sales price. --72.231.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2019 5:04 PM
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Roy, get your real estate contracts inside of your briefcase ASAP. You are wasting time and prospective buyers if show up without your bullets. --72.172.xxx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2019 8:20 PM
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As Ken of NY and Sisco of MO has mentioned you will need to get the purchase agreement in writing. And have the purchase agreement with you because 99.9% of the time buyers will not have the purchase agreement ready to go with them Plus you most likely will have to walk them thru the purchase agreement process most likely every step of the way.

Any verbal agreement is not worth the paper it's written on.

--99.56.xx.xx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2019 4:43 AM
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Tom,it needs to be in writing fr the loan officer and attorneys,a written and signed agreement isn't worth the paper it is written on either,sad but true,more so with low income people who simply don't value or understand a legal agreement. --72.231.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2019 4:46 AM
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In the past, when I was the BUYER, I had a simple one page Purchase Agreement (PA). All of my offers were oral until I had an agreement with the seller on price. When the seller said,..'yes, I will sell you my house for $5K', I would then write it up on my simple one-page PA form, have the seller sign it and then hand that form to my RE attorney who would do the 'legal work and handle the closing'. I have bought over 20 houses using this simple no legal jargon /fine print Purchase Agreement.

Now, is there any reason I can't do the same with me being the SELLER now? RE transactions between buyer and seller do not have to be complicated. I have proven that too many times. --68.63.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2019 1:35 PM
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Roy,keep it as simple as you can.You will have the federal requirement for a lead form for a sale and anything required by your state.I use my local MLS purchase contract so that the attorney for the other side is used to it and comfortable with it and doesn't think that I am up to something and scrutinize it looking for a problem that doesn't exist. --72.231.xxx.xxx




FSBO / More Photos ?? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2019 7:41 PM
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Did you get your paperwork ready? Any showings? Emails? Whats the interest like? Update! --99.203.xx.xxx



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