Worse Damage by Dog? (by WMH [NC]) Jan 29, 2019 5:11 AM|
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Worse Damage by Dog? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 5:11 AM
Just curious: what is the worst damage that has been done to your property by a dog?
I can name three big things, and they were ALL the owner's fault:
1) Bored dog chewed the wood windowsills in one room. DH replaced them easily with PVC shoe molding after they moved.
2) Frantic dog clawed the inside of wood door after being locked inside for too long. Filled and painted. Easier than fixing a kicked-in door.
3) Frantic AND bored dog clawed door and carpet at door after being left alone for too long. This was a big fix: new flooring, new door, etc. Charged to tenant. --50.82.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 5:13 AM
Pee, poop and vomit all over the living room carpet. Took out carpet, pad, and sealed the floor underneath with Kilz. --173.20.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 5:18 AM
Dog stench so bad it required multiple scrubbing, a complete Kilz and repainting job and deodorizing the AC unit. Thank goodness these both had no carpeting.
Have also had completely ruined wood doors and frames and chewed baseboards. Destroyed blinds, drywall damage. One of the hardest because it's not easily repairable was chewed kitchen cabinets. --216.186.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 5:52 AM
I just want to point out that all three posters so far have cited examples of PROPERTY damage. The cost of these repairs is orders of magnitude less than the liability of a dog biting someone. --199.247.xx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 6:12 AM
Never had a bad dog like that. I'm personally afraid of dogs. My DH is the Dog Whisperer, though, so if he can't enter the house alone without the owner, we can't accept that dog. We tell everyone that up front: "If your dog won't lead us to the jewelry for a cookie, we can't take them." --50.82.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 6:34 AM
Imagine 2 dogs being left alone for 10 days inside a house (with new carpet) while the tenant was in the hospital for 10 days. Next door neighbor brought the dogs food and water each day but never let the dogs out. The stench was horrible. This is where I learned my lesson about installing carpet in a rental house. --68.63.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 6:35 AM
I've had much worse and much more expensive damage done by kids.
The worst was a tenant who chained the dog on a long chain (against the terms of their rental agreement) and the dog trotted back and forth all day and scalped the lawn right out of existence. Replacing a lawn is expensive and inconvenient, especially in the desert where a new lawn has to be watered three times a day. --98.146.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 6:43 AM
Pet damage in a house that my son bought, but not all dog damage. The tenants had ferrets and allowed them to run in the heating ducts. Their dogs chewed up the siding on the house, got underneath and ripped up the insulation.
But the tenant damage was worse. Graffiti on the walls in sharpie and they took a hammer to the tile in the house and smashed every tile. The water heater leaked and apparently wasn't reported because the sub floor was ruined in two rooms.
Landscaping was all dead and torn up with several truckloads of garbage scattered about. Of course the carpet was ruined but I didn't want to know if it was dog urine or human urine.
All of which brought the price of the house really low, but it was a big mess to clean up.
Tenants were 4-5 young roommates, college age, but I doubt they were going to college. They had to be out at close of escrow. --98.146.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 6:47 AM
Something to ponder.
Collecting rent for Animals
and then complaining, repairing, seeking damages
and doing it all over again.
But the LL is in charge. (Motto)
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 7:02 AM
Been working on a shack where dog per ruined the subfloor in 3 rooms, tried sending it but the smell is back in just a day or 2, the young couple were interns at the clinic. I inherited this couple, only came in twice, once was furnace filter and there were area carpets around, 2 nd time just came to reset breaker for outside outlet.
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 7:20 AM
I had one break my heart once.
Worse Damage by Dog? (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 7:28 AM
Only damage is to my own home done by my own dogs. Iím a good owner and my dogs were all good and well trained. Even with acres to run and proper training, big dumb dogs will do big dumb things. Wood floors are no match for paws that have to chase the squirrels that run by the windows to torture them. And if you have glass anywhere in your home..... do not buy the big rubber ball toys with the rope attached. --71.10.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 7:32 AM
Dog woman the doctor. I inherited her and her two dogs when I bought one of my first properties. Found out she would leave town and visit her folks and leave plenty of food and water for the dogs. The dogs did about 2400.00 in damages which the good doctor didn't think she should have to pay. She did pay for repairs after I told her I would be happy to have my lawyer send the bill to the hospital if she was having trouble getting mail at her new home. Boy have I learned aot since then. --199.253.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 7:55 AM
After she moved out we nicknaned her Dr. DOOLITTLE...as in more animals than humans and doing little. It's a very nice house now! We still reminisce about her days and her "ark" ! --99.203.xx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 9:14 AM
I've had chewing, urine and feces, etc. Like everyone else.
Not me, but the mother of a former colleague at my W2 job was attacked by a dog of a homeowner. The dog did serious damage to her hand. The mother was there because the family had a child on home-bound education. I think there were 3 surgeries, plus a settlement in the mid-six figures. "I just don't know what got into that dog" was a comment made when it happened. --131.151.xx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 9:17 AM
Smokowna, they do that, donít they.
Iím teary eyed now. --70.92.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 12:23 PM
The smartest thing I ever did on my own home was to put plexiglass over the outside of the french doors in dog yard. The dog would scratch to come inside. Yes it got scratched, but never bad enough to replace. But it survived a German Shepherd. When we removed them, the repairs were really easy, just a little fill around the deadbolt and handle and screw holes but the window panes were unharmed.
Maybe mounting plexiglass, or thin metal plate on the lower half of the door could prevent a lot of damage.
My worst damage was carpeting pee stains from a Yorkie. Once I shined a black light on my bedroom carpet, my relationship with my wife's dog changed forever. --108.69.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by C&J [CO]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 12:52 PM
My SO was bitten by tenants dog, they had adopted it exactly 6 days before the bite, they refused to remove dog and the outcome was an eviction. SO had minor injuries.
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 1:40 PM
In an 8 unit building the neighbor next door had puppy's. When they puppy's were 8 weeks old they wanted to give them away for free. So 4 of my tenants pick up a puppy on a Friday night.
Monday these tenants, never owning a dog or puppy as an adult, let the dogs loose in their apartments.
When they came home, here is what they found:
All of the mini-blinds were town down.
The carpets had holes in them because the dogs tired to claw their way outside.
Doors were clawed and walls were damaged too.
These tenant returned the dogs to their owner and called me saying they were broken into and vandalized. I refused to fix things because of their stupidity.
They City ordered me to replace carpets, blinds and re-paint. We are talking around $6,000 in damages.
To evict here in Los Angeles, a unit has to be perfect with no violations. I had to eat this damage.
But the next time a single tenant allowed their dog to damage a unit, I went after them with everything I had.
One tenant, an attorney would allow his dog to bark all day long. SO with a posted notice I went into his unit the next day and took his dog to his office and left the dog with the receptionist. The attorney had to go home because the dog wouldn't stop barking. The next week I did the same.
That's until the attorney had to board the dog a sue me for his costs. This was a fun day in small claims court. I asked to a real judge, not a commissioner or attorney pro tem. We had to wait from 9 AM to 4:30 PM to see a judge. My tenant lost around $1,000 worth of income. His case was thrown out also. --47.156.xx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 1:55 PM
I guess I forgot that the worst damage from a dog was done to ME. When I was three or four or five, I was playing with a friend in the front yard of her home. Her mother warned us not to go in the backyard because of their dog (German Shephard, former Army dog, on chain...) Our ball went in back yard and so did we and for some unknown reason Mother chose to go get dog off chain and try to bring it inside.
It got away, took me down luckily on my stomach or he would have ripped my throat out, and proceeded to chew up the back of my head for what seemed like hours, only seconds or minutes. Can still hear the sounds decades later.
Mother pulled the dog off of me and sent me running home, bleeding. Alone, can you imagine? My mother was with another neighbor just chatting outside, as one did back in the early 60's, and I will never forget that neighbor's quick intake of breath as they examined my wounds. She said "Oh June (my mom's name) we need to get her to the hospital." And so I went and got a LOT of stitches but it is under my hair on the back of my head and invisible. I have no memory of that.
The dog had apparently bitten a lot of people (mailman, etc.) so the neighborhood apparently sued and instead of putting the dog down, it was given to the Massachusetts State Police. It was TRAINED to take people down. The Mother in this case said, "Well she should never have turned her back to him." Yep.
THAT is why I am afraid of dogs, despite owning and loving many. --50.82.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 2:35 PM
Wow! These are scary stories. Reminds me we have not had animal damage since we started the 2 Minute In Home Visits. We KNOW their dogs are OK.
I turned one down last year where his dogs had chewed and clawed DOWN thru the hardwood floor!
Worse Damage by Dog? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 4:36 PM
Now I am regretting accepting pets. --73.120.xx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by elliot [RI]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 4:54 PM
I am still in the middle of a lawsuit by a tenant's dog biting another tenant's visiting young girl 2-3 years ago.
The tenant came with the house (previous owner lost the 2 family to the bank). The insurance company asked if I was aware of the dog and any prior incident.. I honestly told them that I heard of barking but never saw the dog nor aware of any incident.. They told me that most likely I am not liable and they will defend me. Still a hassle to deal with....
Worse Damage by Dog? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 6:40 PM
Vee, I got rid of cat pee smell by painting the floor, putting luan over it, putting self stick down on the luan, and then carpeting. No smell. --73.248.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jan 29, 2019 9:07 PM
When I transitioned from a PM I inherited a couple w/ a german shepard. They smoked like chiminies. They lived there at least 2 years and once I got my bearings I evicted them. The carpet in 2 large rooms was pasted to the floor with grime and urine. I spent several days taking up the carpet and using a heat gun to scrape the decayed red rubber padding from the subfloor. Now I know those knock down sanding discs exist (might not of back then). Worst spot was at the bathroom threshold where the subfloor was squishy from all the pee. It still smells at times.
2nd was an apt where a tenant (from the Pm era) had a ferret that ran around everywhere. Those things put out some serious stench.
Most Awful case of stench though is from neighbor who had a puppymill and birds and was a hoarder. He was in the hospital a long time and died. You could stand 20-30 feet away outside and walk home w/ stench on you. --24.194.xx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 3:23 AM
My special niche is accepting pets, cats, large dogs, even 2 dogs. For 18 years of renting properties I have had no damage other than some dug up bushes and a few broken blinds (which were more than covered by the pet fee).
That is because all my properties have pet doors! Access to the outside when in--and access to the inside when they are out halts at 95% of all pet damage--and most of the barking too! Property damage happens when the poor animal is restricted from its 'elimination' needs, forced to endure weather extremes, and from boredom.
Cats are clean animals by nature and will not foul their own area unless forced by the fouler condition of their sand box. If going out is an option, every cat will choose to 'make' outside rather than in their home. Damage done by pets is not their fault--it is the fault of the owner who should be seeing to their needs appropriately. --108.87.xx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 4:15 AM
Lynda has some great insight. Formerly I didn't take pets.
I learned here to rethink that position. You really limit your pool of candidates when you exclude them.
It's not the pets that are the problem. It's their owners. When you accept quality tenants, they take proper care of their pets.
You are more likely to experience damages caused by kids. There will always be someone who sounds great but turns out not to be. The solution, although I haven't officially ever implemented it yet is the in-home visits. --216.186.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 4:31 AM
I agree, Lisa, that GOOD pet owners make great tenants. We take pets, 99% of our tenants have them, and it's not an issue. And I also agree that kids and angry male tenants have done WAY more damage.
I was looking at a potential house yesterday where the metal front door was COVERED in punch marks inside and the siding was kicked in on the front of the house to the side of the door, and it was obvious the door had actually been kicked in at some point. Expensive damage. --50.82.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 7:09 AM
Met the Court officer for a lockout after the 4th and final eviction attempt. Tenant paid up at the last minute the other 3 times so Court dismissed those cases - but not this time. Anyway Court officer and I entered on lockout day. What a mess. Lot's of junk left behind and place was filthy. 2 different hollow 6 panel doors were scratched/chewed through. Small mixed breed dog was found behind one of these doors - piece of plywood was pushed against it to keep animal from getting into this room again. Empty food & water dishes. There was also about 2sq' carpet chewed up and feces scattered about. Neighbor said tenant moved out weeks earlier but came back every few days to check on dog. --73.215.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 7:10 AM
THIS WAS A NO PETS LEASE. Place was extensively renovated just prior to this tenant moving in - sheetrock, carpet, appliances, etc. I called the Town animal control warden. He arrived in short order and used one of those pole devices to commandeer the dog. It was a high energy several minutes wrestling with the dog but he finally retained it and put it in his SUV. While speaking with me and a neighbor outside the animal control officer suddenly went limp and collapsed onto the sidewalk. He stopped breathing - apparant heart attack. --73.215.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 7:11 AM
By the grace of G o d and with the assistance of a 911 operator I performed CPR and was able to revive him. EMT's took him to a hospital, he was in for a week, then back on the job. He later told me he remembered receiving the call but nothing else from that day. Sadly, he died less than 2 years later. --73.215.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 7:11 AM
Dog was taken to a shelter and eventually adopted out.
Tenant skipped out. I brought a variety of civil and disorderly person actions (pet abuse/abandonment/property damage) against tenant. There are bench warrants out so someday hopefully she will be brought to justice. --73.215.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 4:58 PM
Wish doggy doors were an option. Dead bolted security doors are a better idea in my neighborhoods. But, I like for tenants to have a dog (s). Great security systems!
Itís definitely the adult humans who do most damage. Kids might scribble, spill nail polish, dogs might scratch, kitties spray, but when properly supervised, those behaviors can be curbed. When two adults wonít control their tempers.... --70.92.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Feb 1, 2019 11:08 AM
This is why we do not allow animals in or on our properties. We have only done this once and never again. On all of our flyers we have it in bold print. You will not imagine how many people still asks if we accept pets. Duh! --24.253.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Feb 1, 2019 12:25 PM
torn off gutter downspouts
unraveled berber carpet (it's 1 continuous thread!)
torn up sprinklers
i like dogs but they are ALL vandals --24.25.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Honey [LA]) Posted on: Feb 1, 2019 1:36 PM
All these problems can be worked out eventually. Right now my concern is SERVICE ANIMALS that don't have to be registered and you can't charge a Damage Deposit for them. We should be able to ask the tenant for legitimate proof that one is needed and some kind of insured liability. Another thing that worries me is this EMOTIONAL ANIMALS business. Aren't ALL Animals for our emotions in one way or another? I want something NOTARIZED for my records. And I would want to expect a damage deposit or extra rent for this emotional animal. I would want the right to REFUSE it if necessary to my Pet Policy. These are the things that can get beyond the lines of common sense.
This will make one decide to sell his/her rentals and get out voluntarily, if not sued out of the LANDLORD life.
Does anyone have the answer? --24.252.xxx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Rennie [CA]) Posted on: Feb 1, 2019 3:07 PM
All of our buildings are pet friendly and in the last 20 years I recall only one situation where there was damage over $300, and it was from a cat! And our security deposits have always covered any problem, and usually it is between $40 -$100. --75.83.xx.xxx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by w in mi [MI]) Posted on: Feb 1, 2019 3:38 PM
I make about $ 5,000.00 a year on pet fees. Expense less than $ 1000.00 a year. Tenants stay longer. New tenants with pets never mention what I call a dirty/wet dog smell. Yes the big dog have oil and leave a wet dog smell. Takes a lot of effort to get it out. The worst pee case , removed the carpet from the basement put it in the drive way. It was so full of urine, the pee ran down the drive way. Cleaned the floor, scrubbed the floor, tried Odorex, the pee laughed at it. Talked with the owner of Odorex. Tried Odorex again, pee still laughed at it. Stain killed the floor. The smell was gone. Now between every tenant we have to paint that floor. I am investigating a company that does floor polishing. The floor is sealed and looks shiny. That will be on a different/next pee floor. Over all more applicants with than without pets. Ps. If the dog misbehaves, damage, barks etc. They are not covered under any support law. --68.41.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Feb 1, 2019 3:44 PM
The only pet we had in our first rental was a cat that was neutered and sprayed every window in that property and the owner was a paralegal and she tried to get her security deposit back and the lawyer boss she did not have a leg to stand on if she pressed the issue. I kept her SD and pet deposit. --24.253.xxx.xx
Worse Damage by Dog? (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 4:04 PM
I have had about $1000 in total damages from pets on a couple of occasions (included dead lawn where urine killed the nice grass completely, chewed up siding, chewed up doors, window sills, door screens, window screens, ripped flooring, urine-soaked sheetrock up the walls two and a half feet and down to the baseboard and between walls and ruined subfloor, etc, etc.
On a more cheerful note (not really) my SIL had her mouth and other parts of her face permanently damaged by a nasty dog bite much too gruesome to get into details here, but the pictures would make you sick. She spent tens of thousands on facial reconstructive and plastic surgeries to try to make herself look somewhat "normal" again. She had to sue the owner for enough just to cover her expenses and very little for all her pain and suffering. --24.20.xxx.xxx
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