 No Criminal Record but.. (by GKARL [PA]) Dec 11, 2018 6:36 PM
 No Criminal Record but.. (by JB [OR]) Dec 11, 2018 6:56 PM
No Criminal Record but.. (by Deanna [TX]) Dec 11, 2018 7:22 PM
No Criminal Record but.. (by RB [MI]) Dec 12, 2018 1:30 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by DJ [VA]) Dec 12, 2018 4:05 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by NE [PA]) Dec 12, 2018 4:09 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by RentsDue [MA]) Dec 12, 2018 4:26 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by rentON [PA]) Dec 12, 2018 5:02 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by S i d [MO]) Dec 12, 2018 5:40 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 12, 2018 6:03 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by cjl [NY]) Dec 12, 2018 6:20 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by GKARL [PA]) Dec 12, 2018 6:27 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by J [FL]) Dec 12, 2018 6:30 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by GKARL [PA]) Dec 12, 2018 6:30 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by S i d [MO]) Dec 12, 2018 9:15 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by Salernitana [CA]) Dec 12, 2018 10:05 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by Deanna [TX]) Dec 12, 2018 10:22 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Dec 12, 2018 11:09 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by Deanna [TX]) Dec 12, 2018 11:21 AM
No Criminal Record but.. (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 12, 2018 1:13 PM
No Criminal Record but.. (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 12, 2018 4:52 PM
No Criminal Record but.. (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Dec 11, 2018 6:36 PM
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This is an applicant for the rooming house. He truthfully answered that he has no felony or misdemeanor convictions, but here's what he has:
Date Offense Disposition
10/20/10 Disorderly Conduct Guilty
7/30/12 Harassment Withdrawn
12/12/13 Harassment Withdrawn
2/20/14 Disorderly Conduct Not Guilty
3/10/14 Harassment Not Guilty
8/30/14 Harassment Dismissed
Now these are all summary offenses and the last one was 4 years ago and the one he was found guilty on was 8 years back. Withdrawn means the DA withdrew the charges while dismissed means the judge dismissed the charges. I perceive this as someone messing with him by bringing charges but it could very well be that he's an idiot or both. If someone is bringing you up on spurious charges, why be around them? Technically, there are no misdemeanors or felonies, but there seems to be a pattern. Would you take him? --209.122.xx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Dec 11, 2018 6:56 PM
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I had the same idea of some of those charges as you. I think it might be worth quizzing him on those items and see how convincing he is. --24.20.xxx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Dec 11, 2018 7:22 PM
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"Hey, I saw 2014 was a rough year for you. Tell me about it."
My crystal ball thinks that it was a bad relationship breakup. Hopefully, the woman has moved to Montana or something, so that specific issue is no longer an issue--- but if he hooks up romantically with someone in your rooming house, he has a past history of not ending his relationships tidily.
If I had a men-only rooming house, I'd take him. If I had a mixed rooming house, I'd take a close look at how many unattached females in his league that I had, and gauge the potential for trouble. I wouldn't ban him just because he might strike up a relationship--- but I would be prepared to lose two roomers if he did, and it became messy. --96.46.xxx.xx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 1:30 AM
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Cant we all just get along ?
No. --184.53.x.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 4:05 AM
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I think if he meets your stated criteria (no felony/ miss convictions), then I would take him. However, first an open conversation as JB has suggested. Not only "tell me about it" (yes, sometimes may actually WANT to hear their story! LOL)
Expecting lies, I would listen for "yeah, this B#*^@ deserved it. I have a great lawyer who always gets me off" or "I only got caught/charged for a couple things" (like how many did you get away with?) or" I only fight when I'm drunk" (followed by- do you still drink?) would be disqualified.
If it's more like " That B#*^@ was trying to frame me cuz she didn't like me going with this other chick". He's not someone I may choose as a friend, but may be OK in the rooming house - more of an isolated incident, perhaps.
Either way, it seems appropriate to put more emphasis on the standard "no drama here" warning.
Good luck!
--68.10.xxx.x |
No Criminal Record but.. (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 4:09 AM
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Sounds like baby mama drama. Smoke him on credit. --50.32.xxx.xx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 4:26 AM
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I smell trouble. --71.10.xxx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by rentON [PA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 5:02 AM
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Model Tenant material for Class C or Rooming House. --67.165.xx.xx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 5:40 AM
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How does he compare to the typical clientele you cater to? Do most have some history of trouble w/law?
He's been "clean" for a little over 4 years. Everything else check out okay?
Your model has fascinated me since you began posting about the rooming house a few years ago. Many tenants who do not qualify for me fail because I know it takes me 4-5 weeks of receiving no rent and all the possible drama and damages that come in that time, plus I pay a lawyer's fee and court costs. Bleh. But if you can get him out in a week or less and have last week's rent already in hand, that changes things considerably. --173.20.xxx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 6:03 AM
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A new law/regulations have passed in my City/State. A landlord can not discriminate against someone with a "minor" criminal past. So I had to read between the lines. If I were to accept a undesirable applicant, this is what I had to look forward too:
1) If I call the Los Angeles Police for help, the phone call to them may get answered in 15 to 20 minutes, with an officer showing up in the next six hours is a 50% change. Chances are the police will never show up.
2) If I need to evict someone, the tenant will get free legal aid and it will take me 3 to 6 months to evict.
So to protect my other tenants (in an apartment building), I have to take into consideration that I'll get almost no help from any government agency -- if and when the minor criminal tenant gets:
drunk and disorderly
does drugs or sells them
crank up the music so no one can sleep
etc.
So if an applicant was in jail for a DUI, shop lifting food or stealing a pack of cigarettes, I"m supposed to accept them -- so long as:
1) Their FICO score is going to be above 700
2) They have money in the bank to cover the rent for the next six months.
3) They have 2 years on the job
4) They make 3x the rent after deducting any monthly debt obligations.
With the rules, no one who is a deadbeat is going to qualify.
--47.156.xx.xx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 6:20 AM
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I may bring it up in conversation to "see/hear" what he has to say but I'm with the others in the fact that it was 4 years ago and I wouldn't be surprised that it was a bad relationship and he "finally" figured out to just get away from it.
If he has a child you may want to do the math and see if that child is anywhere in that range - "baby momma" or was it just the fact that he was dating the "baby momma" and the "baby daddy" was the one creating the issues for him.
If you are THAT worried about it find another way to deny him because if you are only looking for a criminal record - he's passing. --71.46.xx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 6:27 AM
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Sid, in comparison, he would be the worst one. I have one other person who just moved in who had a single disorderly conduct charge from 11 years ago who's been employed at Enterprise Rentals for the past several years. Other than that, everyone else is clean. My major two criteria are clean criminal history and employment.
My ideal tenant is either a retiree or someone in a low paying job who's been there for several years. These folks tend to be stable and don't move. Also, hard working young kids tend to work out as well. None of these groups can afford apartments in my area. Compared to my apartments, I generally can find tenants quicker and can get rid of them quicker also. --209.122.xx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 6:30 AM
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I wouldn't want that in a unit with a one year lease, but in a rooming house where you can get rid of him quickly if necessary it doesn't seem to be a big deal to me.
It does sound like an on again off again romantic relationship that caused these charges. But if his drama was with a next door neighbor that could spell trouble for the rooming house...is there any way to find out the details of what happened? Has he been living in the same location for years? --72.188.xxx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 6:30 AM
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cjl, I did happen to check his FB page and he does indeed have a young child who looks to be about 5 years old. The chances that this is tied to baby momma drama is high. --209.122.xx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 9:15 AM
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GKARL, with that additional information about your requirements and the background on your other residents, I would NOT accept the new applicant. Keep marketing for someone who fits your criteria. --173.20.xxx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 10:05 AM
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I'm glad that you found his fb page to note the drama that probably happened. He seems to be emotional and combative about the mother of his child and the child. Perhaps he would do the same for his place of residence/home too even if he would be in the wrong and unlawful. Please proceed with caution and hope you soon find a steady retiree or hard-working person who just wants a safe and affordable place to live with like persons. --73.93.xx.xx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 10:22 AM
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So, what kind of employment/income does he have?
If he's gainfully employed with a job he's had for a while, presumably he's the kind of guy just looking for a cheap place to sleep and keep some of his stuff, but otherwise, unlikely to want to connect with the other roomers. Steady employment is positive points on top of positive points.
If he's retired/drawing a check, he'll have more time on his hands to get into drama. Negative points on top of negative points.
Presuming that the stuff between 2010-2014 was all with the same person, and he's been quiet and well-behaved for the last four years-- I'd count that as a point in his favor. --96.46.xxx.xx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 11:09 AM
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That's over a 4 year period. Four years isn't a blip, it's a pattern. --174.216.xx.xxx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 11:21 AM
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Sure. I guess it would also be helpful to know how old the guy is. If it's some guy in his 40's, then he's probably had 20 years' worth of normal relationships before, and four years of normal relationships since, and he was probably dating Crazy and happened to catch it. :) But if it's someone who's 25--- that one four-year relationship four years ago makes up a significant amount of his love life, and the Crazy is more likely to be on his side of things. :) --96.46.xxx.xx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 1:13 PM
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A rooming house isn't the most preferred living configuration so you will be getting some of the less preferred clients.
Your rates of return on investment should be higher to make up for your added hassle. I really don't know how you or anyone else can do it.
What has this person done the in the last 5 years? --72.23.xxx.xx |
No Criminal Record but.. (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 12, 2018 4:52 PM
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I guess he is renting a room because he is paying support for that child. It might be easy to get charged with harassment by an angry baby mama. --73.248.xxx.xxx |
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