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painting (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 9, 2018 3:35 PM
       painting (by NE [PA]) Dec 9, 2018 3:36 PM
       painting (by razorback_tim [AR]) Dec 9, 2018 3:41 PM
       painting (by WMH [NC]) Dec 9, 2018 3:43 PM
       painting (by WMH [NC]) Dec 9, 2018 3:43 PM
       painting (by WMH [NC]) Dec 9, 2018 3:43 PM
       painting (by fred [CA]) Dec 9, 2018 4:30 PM
       painting (by Still Learning [NH]) Dec 9, 2018 4:36 PM
       painting (by plenty [MO]) Dec 9, 2018 4:42 PM
       painting (by Richard [MI]) Dec 9, 2018 5:07 PM
       painting (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 9, 2018 5:27 PM
       painting (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 9, 2018 5:28 PM
       painting (by Richard [MI]) Dec 9, 2018 5:45 PM
       painting (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 9, 2018 6:07 PM
       painting (by Jasper [OH]) Dec 9, 2018 6:33 PM
       painting (by Deanna [TX]) Dec 9, 2018 7:12 PM
       painting (by Tom [FL]) Dec 9, 2018 7:30 PM
       painting (by Tom [FL]) Dec 9, 2018 7:30 PM
       painting (by LisaFL [FL]) Dec 10, 2018 3:35 AM
       painting (by NE [PA]) Dec 10, 2018 4:30 AM
       painting (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 10, 2018 6:16 AM
       painting (by Tom [FL]) Dec 10, 2018 7:40 AM
       painting (by melinda [MD]) Dec 10, 2018 8:25 AM
       painting (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 10, 2018 2:42 PM
       painting (by don [PA]) Dec 11, 2018 12:27 PM
       painting (by J [FL]) Dec 11, 2018 2:02 PM
       painting (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 11, 2018 3:02 PM


painting (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 3:35 PM
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What are your thoughts on letting tenant paint to change color of the rooms? If you let them change the color are they required to change it back when they move? If they are required to change it back and they don't,then what? Thank you for your time. --73.120.xx.xxx




painting (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 3:36 PM
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Never. --50.32.xxx.xx




painting (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 3:41 PM
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I would not give a tenant permission to paint. If they want a color change and you are agreeable to that then send in your painter at the tenants expense.

Don’t let the tenant do it unless you like the idea of having paint all over your ceilings, trim, and flooring. Plus a sloppy job that has to be redone anyway when they move out. --70.178.x.xx




painting (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 3:43 PM
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NEVER NO MORE!

Back in the day, we thought, "What's the harm? It's their home!" And ended up with fuscia walls and navy blue woodwork and purple walls with gold-sponge work and a quart of army paint used when a gallon was needed...burgundy walls and black ceilings....I could go on.

Tenants can't paint. And even if they could, why let them? Who wants 20 coats of paint on their walls???

I tell tenants emphatically: Add your colors with ART and FABRIC and ACCESSORIES! Not paint. No more. Our walls provide a neutral backdrop to their personal taste. --50.82.xxx.xx




painting (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 3:43 PM
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NEVER NO MORE!

Back in the day, we thought, "What's the harm? It's their home!" And ended up with fuscia walls and navy blue woodwork and purple walls with gold-sponge work and a quart of army paint used when a gallon was needed...burgundy walls and black ceilings....I could go on.

Tenants can't paint. And even if they could, why let them? Who wants 20 coats of paint on their walls???

I tell tenants emphatically: Add your colors with ART and FABRIC and ACCESSORIES! Not paint. No more. Our walls provide a neutral backdrop to their personal taste. --50.82.xxx.xx




painting (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 3:43 PM
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NEVER NO MORE!

Back in the day, we thought, "What's the harm? It's their home!" And ended up with fuscia walls and navy blue woodwork and purple walls with gold-sponge work and a quart of army paint used when a gallon was needed...burgundy walls and black ceilings....I could go on.

Tenants can't paint. And even if they could, why let them? Who wants 20 coats of paint on their walls???

I tell tenants emphatically: Add your colors with ART and FABRIC and ACCESSORIES! Not paint. No more. Our walls provide a neutral backdrop to their personal taste. --50.82.xxx.xx




painting (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 4:30 PM
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When a tenant asks me if they could paint, it gives me a clue that their tenancy could end soon.

Oh yes, they have great ideas, on painting and other upgrades, and my response is: no thanks. --99.59.x.xxx




painting (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 4:36 PM
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NO --24.61.xxx.xx




painting (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 4:42 PM
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No. I say what WMH wrote followed by after you've been here a few years we can talk about a feature wall of paint. They dont all stay long enough for "their colors" --99.203.xx.xxx




painting (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 5:07 PM
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Since most of my places are C units (older mobiles), I let them paint but never will I trade rent for painting. They supply all labor and most paint. I have found they paint anyway even if I say no. The way I look at it, these are C units, not A or B. If it makes them happy and they stay longer, good. Chances are, I'll need to repaint anyway.

When I was younger, I helped pay my way through college by painting student housing around the college. Using an airless, I can paint a 2BE unit complete in about 2 hours. All mine go antique white. All trim and baseboards are painted the same.

People who rent C units don t care what color the paint generally is, if it has carpet or wood floors, etc. If rent is affordable, that's all most of them care about. --23.121.xx.xxx




painting (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 5:27 PM
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Thank you all for your feedback. I see it is pretty much no way. Do you paint all of the rooms the same color. In my sfh I painted all of the rooms different colors and I am thinking that is a bad idea and very inefficient? I forgot to ask this earlier. --73.120.xx.xxx




painting (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 5:28 PM
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Town requires repainting between tenants and I use either a cream white or white. No one has asked me for awhile but I always say, no, it has just been painted. My lease says they can't paint without written permission. Had a snowflake lawyer want to paint in "earth tones". No, white is an earth tone, I said, think of snow. I told him he can have wall hangings and framed items. Good thing because he decided to leave when I would not give him the summer months for free so he could go to Turkey. He was teaching at the time since he was disbarred. Don't rent to disbarred lawers either.. --73.248.xxx.xxx




painting (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 5:45 PM
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6x6

Yes, everything gets the same color. Ceilings, walls, trim.

This likely does not apply in A and B units.

Wrap cabs with visqueen. Use hand held spray shield with 36 inch handle to shield windows. Use old carpet cut into 24 inch strips to shield floor. May have to use primer over red, pink, yellow, dark blues and repairs. Spraying takes 5-10 minutes per entire room.Wear a respirator and a paint suit.

Use cheap paint.

Remember, these are C units. Don't do this on good A or B units. To paint A or B units, you'll spend $200+ per room. Or more. Usually more. --23.121.xx.xxx




painting (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 6:07 PM
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One of my 14 year long tenants wanted to have their apartment painted again. I had painted it less than 3 years ago, top quality job. So my tenant hired her long time handyman to do the job while she was away.

The price quoted to paint 1/2 of the 1 bedroom unit was $1,000. When the tenant returned, only have of the job was complete and it was done wrong. Water base paint over oil based paint. Everything had to be re-done, costing my tenant a total of $2,500.

This is only one horror story. Other times tenants don't realize, even after I explain about contact surfaces. Cabinet doors, etc need to have layers of paint removed before adding primer and 2 coats of paint -- otherwise things won't close and stay shut.

I had one tenant paint over cabinets so nothing would even come close to closing. Then they move without paint the last months rent citing that the unit is now inhabitable.

So I only allow licensed painting contractors, or tenants who will listen and follow directions. Like my NASA scientist, she used the tools I provided and did a A class job. --47.156.xx.xx




painting (by Jasper [OH]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 6:33 PM
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No. Painting is a skilled job. Don't assume tenants know how to paint. If a tenant should paint anyhow, after you've told them you don't allow it (should be in your lease BTW), then charge appropriately against their deposit at move-out. Richard(MI) mentioned $200 per room. --71.28.xxx.xx




painting (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 7:12 PM
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I buy a lot of houses from people who are destined to be tenants forever... :)

There was the one that was done in bright pinks and teals (in the same room), and browns and grays.

I'm currently working on one with black baseboards and window recesses.

I've had more than one turquoise bathroom.

There was the really fun one where they started painting (green walls, navy blue baseboards and window frames, etc) and kind of lost interest halfway through the process...

Even my own current house used to have ceilings that had been done in burnt orange and Pepto-Bismol pink at some point in the past, although that was probably the 60's and the 70's for you...

I've had tenants paint without permission. Every single one of them left under disagreeable circumstances (unrelated to having painted without permission) and not one of them put their painting back again the way it was.

To be honest, I understand their desire to paint. When we moved to our former primary residence, it was the first time DH had ever owned a house. He wanted to express that freedom of no longer being a renter by painting. He picked a dark red for the master bedroom and a dark green for the computer room. I picked a sunny buttery yellow for the guest bedroom. It only occurred to us after the fact that we had picked stoplight colors! :P We were much less adventurous with our palette for our current primary residence-- he'd gotten it out of his system by that time-- but some of our tenants don't have the politeness to wait to become homeowners before inflicting their adventurous sense of color upon us. :) --96.46.xxx.xx




painting (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 7:30 PM
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99.9% tenants are clueless on how to prep and paint a wall forget a room or a house.

Prep the surface, fill holes, remove cover plates, prime walls, finish coat.

AND tenants do not move appliances or pianos or large furniture they just paint around them.

99.99% tenants are clueless of how to paint!!!

NO to tenants painting. Their color choices are not the best and no prep or primer or the least amount of work by properly spot priming grease, marker on the wall or other stains that bleed thru freshly painted walls or ceilings or kitchen cabinets. --99.56.xx.xx




painting (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 7:30 PM
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99.9% tenants are clueless on how to prep and paint a wall forget a room or a house.

Prep the surface, fill holes, remove cover plates, prime walls, finish coat.

AND tenants do not move appliances or pianos or large furniture they just paint around them.

99.99% tenants are clueless of how to paint!!!

NO to tenants painting. Their color choices are not the best and no prep or primer or the least amount of work by properly spot priming grease, marker on the wall or other stains that bleed thru freshly painted walls or ceilings or kitchen cabinets. --99.56.xx.xx




painting (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Dec 10, 2018 3:35 AM
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No, never. Learned this the hard way several times. It will cause you tons of work in the end.

I recently caved for a 10 year tenant but I told her I would supply the paint in my color choice and this was a special exception being made for her. She insisted she wanted to stay forever!

When she learned I was picking the color, which was a new modern color (repose gray) and all walls needed to be the same color she declined.

I kid you not, three months later she was given the wonderful opportunity "her words" to buy her Mom's house and she moved. While I believe her I am so glad she declined. And it reminded me to never deviate from my rule as I feel I dodged a bullet this time.

As Tom (FL) said tenants do not know how to paint. I only considered it in this case because she was a good, long term tenant and I figured even if she did move or didn't do a good job I knew we'd be doing a total rehab when she did move or buy the house which she'd also mentioned wanting to do.

I had had one house completely painted ($1800) by a professional prior to a new occupancy. Included new interior doors which were stained/not painted.

Tenant painted without permission and broke their lease six months later. Every room painted in a different, hideous flat paint color (black, chocolate brown, purple) to include only one side of each brand new stained door. I was speechless. Her deposit was nowhere near what it took to pit it back the way it was and the doors of course could not be. --216.186.xxx.xx




painting (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 10, 2018 4:30 AM
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Paint all your walls the same colors. Doors and trim white, walls neutral. Makes turnover easier. You can also write the code of the paint on the back of the light switch if you don't remember what it is.

Use the same in all units and you won't have to remember what it is from house to house.

If a tenant paints without permission, charge to repair. --50.32.xxx.xx




painting (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 10, 2018 6:16 AM
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Swiss Coffee on the walls and trim using an opppps color can of paint.

If you use only one color, you can paint a single wall at turn over.

You need to create a set system to follow that will make your life easier.

No where so many folks have flat out said NO......I will say normally NO. I had someone that has been in one of my places since 2003 ask me if he could hire his nephew to paint the place. I told him if I could meet his nephew, I would be alright with it.

After checking out the nephews pickup truck, I felt comfortable allowing him to paint without destroying the oak trim pieces in the property. --72.23.xxx.xx




painting (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Dec 10, 2018 7:40 AM
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The Deed

and

The Lease

With a DEED you have unlimited abilities HOWEVER dictated by zoning, code enforcement and HOA's as how unlimited you may be to do certain things to the DEEDED premises.

Yes there are rules to follow!!!

With a LEASE there are limitations HOWEVER some tenants think they own the place and can do whatever they please without any concern for the content of the lease. Like painting. or flooring change, or being a house beater, or becoming a deadbeat...

OF course being a house beater happened many times with foreclosure properties and many times it was the deeded owner who did the house beating. Sadly the house did not cause the financial woes of the owner. BUT the house got a good beating and most likely the owner felt better after this occurrence. Unfortunately these owners who did major damages to the house did not get a day in jail due to the major amount of damages. Wall damages, kitchen cabinets removed, light fixtures removed, all appliances removed, hot water heater removed, toilets removed, a/c or furnace removed. And they got back at that evil bank that caused them to lose their house to foreclosure. AND now since this person lost their house o foreclosure they are now renters, WONDERFUL. The rental could be the next thing damaged.

IF tenant wants to paint at their freewill then change the ownership factor become a deeded owner of a house.

But they don't want the responsibility of being the deeded owner.

NO Painting per lease...

--99.56.xx.xx




painting (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Dec 10, 2018 8:25 AM
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Please do not let any tenant paint your house. I have never seen the job done well and the colors are usually horrible. Just did an inspection on a 7 yr tenant. House has many problems caused by tenant---ripped up flooring, several kicked in interior doors and I cannot fully explain how awful her painting is. (she never had permission to paint). She did what she could in the stairwell. Just awful. Half of the wall is painted going up the stairs. The original paint is not even close to what she chose or the bottom half. Disaster! --24.233.xxx.xx




painting (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 10, 2018 2:42 PM
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Thank you all for your advice and stories. NE(PA),I totally agree with all rooms and houses same color would be much less to keep up with saving money and time. Tom(FL),I agree. Melinda(MD),I will not let tenants paint my house. Sorry to here about the mess your tenant left you. How often did you inspect your house? Again thank you all. --73.120.xx.xxx




painting (by don [PA]) Posted on: Dec 11, 2018 12:27 PM
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With rare exception, here is how tenants paint. 1. Dip roller into paint and roll up the wall until they hit the ceiling. 2. Roll down the wall, over the baseboard, until they hit the floor. 3. Continue around the room until they reach the starting point or run out of paint, whichever comes first. "Cutting in"?? What is that? "Masking tape" What is that? "Drop cloths" What are they?? --70.90.xx.xxx




painting (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 11, 2018 2:02 PM
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"Please do not let any tenant paint your house. I have never seen the job done well and the colors are usually horrible."

Yes, many people--not just tenants--don't seem to understand that less is usually more when it comes to choosing paint colors....I remember going into foreclosures painted the most loud colors...purple wall next to a green wall. --72.188.xxx.xxx




painting (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 11, 2018 3:02 PM
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Thank you for your response. The foreclosure I bought was awful. --73.120.xx.xxx





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