 drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Dec 7, 2018 7:04 AM
 drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 7, 2018 7:06 AM
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Dec 7, 2018 7:17 AM
drywall mud q (by Jason [VA]) Dec 7, 2018 7:55 AM
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Dec 7, 2018 7:59 AM
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 7, 2018 8:10 AM
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Dec 7, 2018 8:17 AM
drywall mud q (by Hoosier [IN]) Dec 7, 2018 9:01 AM
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Dec 7, 2018 9:42 AM
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 7, 2018 9:45 AM
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Dec 7, 2018 10:37 AM
drywall mud q (by Steve [MA]) Dec 7, 2018 10:50 AM
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 7, 2018 11:01 AM
drywall mud q (by gevans [SC]) Dec 7, 2018 11:15 AM
drywall mud q (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Dec 7, 2018 11:29 AM
drywall mud q (by myob [GA]) Dec 7, 2018 11:49 AM
drywall mud q (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 7, 2018 11:53 AM
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Dec 7, 2018 12:47 PM
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 7, 2018 1:02 PM
drywall mud q (by CX [WA]) Dec 7, 2018 1:22 PM
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Dec 7, 2018 5:07 PM
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 7, 2018 5:09 PM
drywall mud q (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 7, 2018 5:23 PM
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Dec 7, 2018 7:14 PM
drywall mud q (by Cjo’h [CT]) Dec 8, 2018 2:05 PM
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Dec 9, 2018 5:21 AM
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Dec 9, 2018 6:41 AM
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 9, 2018 8:34 AM
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 9, 2018 8:35 AM
drywall mud q (by Mickie [OH]) Dec 9, 2018 9:33 AM
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Dec 9, 2018 10:36 AM
drywall mud q (by plenty [MO]) Dec 9, 2018 11:05 AM
drywall mud q (by Cjo’h [CT]) Dec 10, 2018 7:46 PM
drywall mud q (by Cjo’h [CT]) Dec 11, 2018 9:04 AM
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Dec 11, 2018 9:13 AM
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 7:04 AM
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I've only ever used the pre-mixed mud that you have to wait 24 hours between each sanding/remud. I've gotten pretty good at it but to do four coats is a lot of waiting time with pre-mixed.
Are the quicker drying muds that you have to mix with water harder to use? Is there a learning curve?
I'm not talking about hanging a new wall, just repairs that are a couple square feet or less. Thanks.
--72.188.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 7:06 AM
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Add heat and fans. Your inside corners will take the longest. You could use 90 minute mud on the tape and first coats. --174.201.x.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 7:17 AM
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I use both types of mud. 20 minute quick set is my personal favorite, however, it only dries in 20 minutes if you spread it on thin. Thick coats can take hours to dry down. Plus, quick set mud dries hard as a rock and it is more difficult to sand,...I use an electric palm sander which makes it a little easier. Both types of mud produce a ton of dust though.
Also, I use 20 minute quick set mud to fill bullet holes in metal doors, holes made by rats/mice and many other types of holes other than just drywall. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 7:55 AM
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If you're already good with the pre-mix, then you'll do well with the quick set. Just try to limit the amount of sanding you'll need to do. Start with the 45 minute mud to test the waters. --65.118.xx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 7:59 AM
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OK thanks all. I won't attempt the 5 minute mud as a newbie, lol, but it sounds like I can handle the right quickset. --72.188.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 8:10 AM
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If you try the 5 minute mud, mix it in small batches and mix it wet. It will dry in your pan. --174.201.x.xxx |
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 8:17 AM
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NE I don't think I'm ready for 5 minute mud yet but thanks for the tip. --72.188.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 9:01 AM
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I'm a "moderate" drywall user...not a pro.
I like the mix up type because you don't need to keep a huge bucket of the pre-mix around...I can mix up tiny batches as needed. It's easy to mix.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems that when I use the really fast drying stuff it gets brittle and cracks easier...so the fastest set time I'll usually use is 45 minute. If one of the pros on here thinks I'm doing something wrong that's making it brittle, please educate me.
I do agree with some above that say 3 thin coats will dry faster than 1 really thick coat...always go thin unless you can afford to let it sit for a LONG time. --99.92.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 9:42 AM
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Hoosier,
Instead of paper tape, use the fiberglass mesh tape. Mesh tape will not crack and will provide a much stronger joint than paper tape,...just based on my own expereinces. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 9:45 AM
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Just an FYI, you'll never see a pro use the mesh junk. Always paper and most times in a bazooka. --50.107.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 10:37 AM
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NE,
Yes, the pros prefer the paper tape but I would guess that is because it is cheap compared to the more expensive mesh tape. Mesh tape reinforces the dried joint compound (like rebar in concrete does) but it does cost more per foot. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 10:50 AM
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Roy, try using Fiberfuse tape. It works great every where except inside corners. For ISCs we use paper tape. --96.237.xx.xx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 11:01 AM
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Not because it's cheap. It works in the tools that pros use, plus the mesh causes speed bumps when the spackle that pushes through dries.
A bazooka is one of the tools, also the spool that hangs on your hip.
If there's one aspect of remodeling I can do proficiently, it's spackling. I would not use mesh. Ever.
You can use it all you want. The main reason newbies use it is because it sticks to the wall and they don't have the skills to get the mud out from underneath the paper after the paper is applied. --50.107.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 11:15 AM
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Watched my sheetrock pro use 5 minute mud earlier this week. Very impressive!
What Roy said: use it for base coats, keep it thin, and make sure you never have to sand it!
I'd be OK with a small batch of 20 minute for a hole patch. My pro burned through a full pan of 5 minute in 2.5 minutes, washed out his pan, and mixed a top coat by the 6 minute mark. He definitely earned his money. --173.233.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 11:29 AM
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Dura bond has 20 to 90 minutes drying time which is going to depend on conditions. Mix up small amount then apply. --72.139.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 11:49 AM
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For normal rental wall repair-- after tenant moves out. Regular mud for nail holes etc. We now put round disks where door knobs hit wall so those repairs are history. Should a large repair be needed and you want to paint right away just skip that area till next day. After mudding -- with regular stuff and just prior to painting-- just wash the wall gently it will smooth out the mud patch. (no sanding)
FYI on size of container. If your only doing a few fixes-- don't try to buy the big 5 gal mud bucket. We have found the STINK when the mud sits unused is horrendous. We use the 1 gal buckets and it keeps the mud fresh.
in a pinch you can use white toothpaste, little dab will do ya! --99.103.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 11:53 AM
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As a contractor, I had to learn ways to limit the time applying mud to drywall installs.
First rule, thin coats to limit sanding. I use sanding machines with vacuum attachments to limit dust to a minimum. Sometimes I often use a wet sanding sponge to smooth out a troubled area.
I'll fill in deep openings with a quick drying compound then sand and mud over it for uniform drying. That's day one. Day two with wider trowels I'll add a second coat of mud, again thin so it drys quickly.
Day three I'll put on the top coat. Day 4 using a fine sand paper I'll give everything a thin sanding. Then vacuum up the surface to remove any dust before applying drywall primer. --47.156.xx.xx |
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 12:47 PM
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I tried the paper tape years ago when I did my first repair and I hated it because it bunched up or got messed up when I put it on, so I've been using the mesh tape.
I haven't noticed any bumps caused by the mesh in the small jobs that I've done with it...is this something that happens over time? --72.188.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 1:02 PM
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The paper tape bunched up due to the angle of your knife. --50.107.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by CX [WA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 1:22 PM
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Here's what helped me graduate to being able to use the quicker-setting compounds successfully:
Bought a second hand smallish stainless steel rounded-bottom mixing bowl and spatula from Goodwill. This makes it easy, tidy, and quick to mix up the desired amount.
Transfer mixed compound to the rectangular pan and IMMEDIATELY and quickly clean out the mixing bowl and spatula outside with the hose (NOT in the sink!). This leaves the mixing bowl and spatula clean and ready for the next round.
Still enough time left to work the compound onto the repair area.
Also, some cardboard on the floor below the repair area will make cleanup go faster.
The faster setting powders make it possible for several coats in a day. --174.21.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 5:07 PM
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Just how many coats of joint compound are you all using?
If you are really good, you can do it in one coat and maybe a 2nd coat for a newbie. 3rd or 4th coats,..who has time for that ? I am referring to Class C rentals here and not the Taj Mahal. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 5:09 PM
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2 coats not including the tape coat or final touch ups. 2's for dough, 3's for show. --50.32.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 5:23 PM
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I use joint compound. It dries faster and can be wiped with a damp sponge to a nice smooth surface. Tools are everything. --73.248.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2018 7:14 PM
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I've been doing 4 coats to get a perfectly smooth look. But that's just me... --72.188.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Dec 8, 2018 2:05 PM
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Calling it mud,is kinda derogatory,joint compound is more appropriate,pre mixed joint compound even more so..If you have to use a sander,you are not yet proficient.Need more practice.Lots more................... Charlie,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,, .......................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?????????? .......... ??????? --32.214.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 5:21 AM
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One secret to getting great drywall compound is to use an electric mixer and get your joint compound 'nice and creamy' (similar to toothpaste) before you spread it. Adding a little water helps too. Stirring with a stick it is not enough,...it needs to be mixed with an electric drill with a steel drywall paddle attached to it. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by J [FL]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 6:41 AM
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I'm not sure if it's disrespectful to call it mud instead of joint compound, Charlie? I've heard drywall guys call it that. --72.188.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 8:34 AM
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The pros call it mud, the pros also sand, the pros also use paper tape and most pros stomp ceilings. --50.32.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 8:35 AM
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Roy, a few drops of dawn soap in with that water will add to your creamy mud too. --50.32.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 9:33 AM
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Right or wrong I use a damp sponge - no dust no worries --174.233.x.xx |
drywall mud q (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 10:36 AM
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NE,
Just recently, my handyman taught me how to 'stomp a ceiling'. It is messy job though.
Thanks for the dawn liquid tip. --68.63.xxx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2018 11:05 AM
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Youtube applying drywall compond with paint roller. We just 2 days ago we completed a job with this technique... works awesome! Very smooth job. Walls are primed now and we are off to buy the paint. --99.203.xx.xxx |
drywall mud q (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Dec 10, 2018 7:46 PM
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I, I was being facetious,I too heard the Frenchmen call it that,and then go out and score five goals.I never heard the term stomp the ceiling? --32.214.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Dec 11, 2018 9:04 AM
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I use a 12” plastering trowel and a 6” taping knife to pick up the compound. I had to have a 5 room ranch done.Two guys came in at 7.30 and had half the house sheetrocked at noon,when two tapers came and had everything done by 2.30 and everyone picked up their tools and vamoosed............ charlie...... --32.214.xxx.xx |
drywall mud q (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 11, 2018 9:13 AM
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Charlie, I'm not all surprised by it being hung and MAYBE taped in one day with 4 guys. Finished? No way. That doesn't account for dry time between finish coats and sanding. --50.32.xxx.xx |
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