charge the late fee? (by MakeTinyChanges [VT]) Dec 3, 2018 12:40 PM|
charge the late fee? (by Homer [TX]) Dec 3, 2018 12:56 PM
charge the late fee? (by MakeTinyChanges [VT]) Dec 3, 2018 1:05 PM
charge the late fee? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Dec 3, 2018 1:35 PM
charge the late fee? (by S i d [MO]) Dec 3, 2018 1:45 PM
charge the late fee? (by S i d [MO]) Dec 3, 2018 1:51 PM
charge the late fee? (by myob [GA]) Dec 3, 2018 1:56 PM
charge the late fee? (by LindaJ [NY]) Dec 3, 2018 7:04 PM
charge the late fee? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Dec 3, 2018 9:22 PM
charge the late fee? (by Still Learning [NH]) Dec 4, 2018 3:47 AM
charge the late fee? (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 4, 2018 9:31 AM
charge the late fee? (by Paulio [PA]) Dec 4, 2018 9:44 AM
charge the late fee? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 5, 2018 3:08 PM
charge the late fee? (by Busy [WI]) Dec 6, 2018 10:41 AM
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charge the late fee? (by MakeTinyChanges [VT]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 12:40 PM
Bear with me friends,
I have a tenant who moved in about 4 years ago, she is older, like 80, still in good shape. Her husband recently had a stroke, like 6 months ago and has been in rehab. Since then, a couple times she has been late. (Her rent check this month is arriving today) I have not charged her the late fee. She has been a great tenant and she is a great human being. I have begged her to send me multiple post dated checks at a time, but she has not.
I want to treat all tenants fairly. Even the ones I really really like. I don't want to cloud my judgment, and want to follow my rules. What would y'all do? --24.193.x.xx
charge the late fee? (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 12:56 PM
I wouldn’t charge her a late fee if paid today, given her situation. May be the wrong thing to do, but charging an old lady a late fee while hubby is recovering just don’t feel right. --75.141.xxx.xxx
charge the late fee? (by MakeTinyChanges [VT]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 1:05 PM
charge the late fee? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 1:35 PM
In this case I wouldn’t charge her either.
I would try to incentivize her to sign up for electronic bank draft so she doesn’t have to worry about paying the rent. She has plenty of other things on her mind right now. --166.137.xxx.xxx
charge the late fee? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 1:45 PM
I would charge. It has been a re-occuring issue. You gave a solution to the issue and it was rejected.
Based on your post, it does not sound like she is unable to pay, but she has not been willing to take the right steps to ensure she is on time. A modest late fee should send the message that this is not acceptable.
Life happens. We prepare for it and deal with it.
What could solve her problem? Checks...auto-draft..debit/credit card on file with signed charge authorization, etc.
I am a fan of training my tenants...not so much the other way around. A late fee might succeed where begging has failed. --173.20.xxx.xxx
charge the late fee? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 1:51 PM
Another thought...do you have emergency contacts for these folks? I certain "get" wanting to be helpful, especially with elderly folks, and one you can do is be proactive and ensure you have at least 4 emergency contacts that are NOT on each other's list so that when stuff happens, you know whom to call.
It would be sad to evict an elderly couple because one of them goes into the hospital/nursing home and the other one zones out. Stress does odd things to folks.
As I said in the earlier post, life happens! If they do not prepare to deal with it, then we have to take steps to protect our income/business. Emergency contacts can sometimes get things happening when our hands are tied. --173.20.xxx.xxx
charge the late fee? (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 1:56 PM
I do not charge old people late fees. I know your all SHOCKED.
Here's my take. You're new to the world just over 18 years old-- you gotta learn. Like training a puppy-- roll up the newspaper and wack--- they learn quick.
Simple put: Your on the down side of life---- you've paid your dues.
Flip side: I got a single guy who didn't work all of Nov. Paid no rent and we're waiting on set out Thursday. Here it is Dec and he's loading up the haul. He had the audacity to ask his church to pay his rent or at least 500.00 of it---- an able bodied guy. We would not take the money from the church. OH forgot he's driving a brand new car.
Now he's moving and we're the --- holes.
I think you have to have that line you can't cross and with me it's old folks. --99.103.xxx.xxx
charge the late fee? (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 7:04 PM
A couple of days late, I wouldn't charge, Since she has been fine for years. Maybe just send her a reminder a couple of days before the first, just to be helpful. I'll admit, sometimes I don't realize it is the first of the month until the checks come.
Is she the one who wrote the check before? If he did, she probably isn't in the routine to do it either. --108.4.xxx.xx
charge the late fee? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 9:22 PM
She has proven she has the ability to pay on time.
THIS is the hurdle casual LLs MUST get over to operate a sustainable and LEGAL business. Must treat EVERY res the same whether you like them or not. Rehab or not. Fine person or not.
You can be sued for “being nice”.
If you let one person slide the free attys can each your lunch for discrimination. You cannot give one person an advantage you do not give EVERY person.
My judge makes it clear- if you don’t charge a late fee now it is your STANDARD PROCEDURE and you cannot charge a late fee later.
Is she waiting for a SSI check? Need to rest the due date?
Me? I’d send a letter “Mary, I let the last late payments go without late fees. I must remind you that in the future the late fee is $5 per day per the lease.
charge the late fee? (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Dec 4, 2018 3:47 AM
I would not charge the late fee. I would consider it a professional courtesy or “write it off”. Make a notation in the file saying late fee waived due to husband recovering from stroke in rehab. That way if anyone wants to come after you for fairness, your policy in similar circumstances would be to do the same. I did this for a family while the father was fighting and ultimately died from leukemia. Rent was paid by the end of every month but not on time because she needed to get a monthly appointment for welfare help from the city. Every month by the 5th she needed to give me some money and a plan to avoid the start of eviction. Once she was back at work the rent was never late. Eventually she moved to have a fresh start. Her son wanted to stay on but he did not qualify. During this time the unit next door paid late and was required to pay the $75 late fee every month including an extra $55 bounced check fee. I had no issue waiving one fee and collecting one. --24.61.xxx.xx
charge the late fee? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 4, 2018 9:31 AM
I would not charge the late fee. I have a five day grace period which is fairly normal and the State of NJ forces a LL to wait ten days anyway --173.61.xxx.xx
charge the late fee? (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Dec 4, 2018 9:44 AM
I was all for not charging....until Brad spoke up. Now I’m on the fence. He makes a good point. But in the end, if it was me, I would probably do what Still Learning suggests. --174.201.x.xxx
charge the late fee? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 5, 2018 3:08 PM
What does fair housing laws have to say about treating someone differently - especially repeatedly?
Perhaps by hooking up the resident, you are setting yourself up for bigger problems
charge the late fee? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Dec 6, 2018 10:41 AM
I’m all for cutting someone a break, BUT, you offered help and it was declined. I would send a letter clearly stating what the rent is, what the late fees are, other terms of the lease. I would keep the tone friendly, and state that I am clarifying what the terms are. I would NOT point out any assumed reasons why the rent was not paid on time, as that can be implying she is deficient.
Just state what the terms are, what the penalties are for violating the terms. I usually end with, ‘Any questions? Text me at xxx with your questions, or to arrange to meet at your house.
(I request text as I am getting hard of hearing. In person, I read lips well enough, and know to clarify if I wan’t sure of what they said. )
It gets a little tough when dealing with someone who skills may be declining, Doesn’t mean she’s not playing you. --70.92.xxx.xxx
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