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Key Management? (by Moby [FL]) Dec 2, 2018 8:32 AM
       Key Management? (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 2, 2018 8:37 AM
       Key Management? (by moby [IN]) Dec 2, 2018 8:50 AM
       Key Management? (by Ken [NY]) Dec 2, 2018 8:59 AM
       Key Management? (by WMH [NC]) Dec 2, 2018 9:14 AM
       Key Management? (by Gwen [NY]) Dec 2, 2018 9:24 AM
       Key Management? (by Nicole [PA]) Dec 2, 2018 9:30 AM
       Key Management? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Dec 2, 2018 9:50 AM
       Key Management? (by Moby [FL]) Dec 2, 2018 9:53 AM
       Key Management? (by Ve [OH]) Dec 2, 2018 10:55 AM
       Key Management? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Dec 2, 2018 11:34 AM
       Key Management? (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 2, 2018 12:37 PM
       Key Management? (by Scott [IN]) Dec 2, 2018 5:01 PM
       Key Management? (by GKARL [PA]) Dec 2, 2018 5:34 PM
       Key Management? (by Still Learning [NH]) Dec 2, 2018 8:27 PM
       Key Management? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Dec 2, 2018 8:57 PM
       Key Management? (by Robin [WI]) Dec 2, 2018 9:25 PM
       Key Management? (by Hoosier [IN]) Dec 2, 2018 10:31 PM
       Key Management? (by GKARL [PA]) Dec 3, 2018 4:26 AM
       Key Management? (by WMH [NC]) Dec 3, 2018 6:01 AM
       Key Management? (by Hoosier [IN]) Dec 3, 2018 6:44 AM
       Key Management? (by cjl [NY]) Dec 3, 2018 11:27 AM
       Key Management? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 4, 2018 1:08 PM
       Key Management? (by Josh [CA]) Dec 4, 2018 2:02 PM

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Key Management? (by Moby [FL]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 8:32 AM
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I'm looking to improve upon the large keyring I have (17 units and mulitple service locks) - how/what product(s) do you use to manage your keys? Thanks!

--216.238.xxx.xx




Key Management? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 8:37 AM
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I use little plastic tabs from the hardware store. They come in colors. I used the same method when I had twenty units. I had one key ring with everything on it and separate ones for each building, color coded. Then I had single unit sets in case of a lockout. Perfect. No problems. --73.248.xxx.xxx




Key Management? (by moby [IN]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 8:50 AM
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I have gone to engraving a number on the key and the cylinder it fits. This works for me as I recirculate locks as tenants change. --68.60.xxx.xx




Key Management? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 8:59 AM
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I use a master key system from a local locksmith so I have 1 key that can get me in any house I own,if a tenant locks themselves out I call the locksmith and give them the key number and tell the tenant to go pick it up and pay for it themselves --72.231.xxx.xxx




Key Management? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 9:14 AM
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Earnie's Landlord Locks! Search this website. We have gone from way too many keys to two each: One master to open every lock, including padlocks, and one to change out the cores in seconds.

Such a relief to know that we have the right key on us no matter what! --50.82.xxx.xx




Key Management? (by Gwen [NY]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 9:24 AM
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Schlage keypad locks, then you can use the codes instead of keys. The locks cost more than a normal keyed deadbolt, however, so it may not be economical in all cases. --74.70.xx.xx




Key Management? (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 9:30 AM
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master key system through a local locksmith. --72.70.xxx.xxx




Key Management? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 9:50 AM
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Landlord locks.

I carry two keys - one is a master that fits every rental I own. The other is used to remove the cylinder and insert a replacement upon turnover. --70.178.x.xx




Key Management? (by Moby [FL]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 9:53 AM
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Thanks all - definitely seems the investment in LL is the way to go!

Question: any thoughts/preferences on the regular LL locks versus the MFS/icore? --216.238.xxx.xx




Key Management? (by Ve [OH]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 10:55 AM
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The LL locks have different detail so stick to the system you begin with, you should call and talk with Ernie or Rick prior to your setup, they will make certain no other keys in you zipcode area will come close to fitting your stuff. --76.188.xxx.xx




Key Management? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 11:34 AM
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Moby,

Scaling. If you want to grow you must have systems in place that ALLOW for growth which includes being able to delegate each task. Chasing keys slowed my growth. Plus I carried a whole briefcase of the original keys in case I needed to inside or needed a copy.

To scale up we must ELIMINATE time suckers.

Go to Ernieís iCore webpage. They are a better quality and easier to swap.

The keys and the cylinders arrive professionally number stamped for YOUR series.

Master key gets into every door and padlock. Control key to swap out the cylinder in 3 seconds. Momma LOVES to see she has fresh locks.

I write the new key numbers on the lease. Done.

I no longer keep the original key on a hook because replacements ALWAYS work. I order replacement keys by email.

One of the best decisions I ever made! Saves me TONS of time and makes scaling easy. Buy a new property? Just add one more of the same locks.

Iíve never understood why a LL would pay a locksmith to change locks when they can do it themselves (or better yet my helpers!) in seconds. Some actually remove the lock, drive it the locksmith, stand around while he re-keys or drive back to pick it up, then drive to the house to reinstall the lock. An hour to change a lock! Iím tired just typing that!

Or pay $40...for what I can do in 3 seconds.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Key Management? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 12:37 PM
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I am a contractor and locksmith. I do not trust my managers to hand a locked-out tenant a copy of their key, instead they hand over a master key so the tenant can let themselves inside their unit. The tenant can simply gauge the master key and have a copy made for under five bucks. Some security?

I like the idea of having a master key for myself so I can walk around with less than several hundred keys to all units and homes.

But I'd rather be safe than sorry. If a master key gets out, I am then responsible for all thtfts, assaults and problems.

As a contractor working for other property owners, when a tenant would get robbed, my name would be given as "A" person with access. Until I could prove I wasn't there, was working elsewhere and could have picked the lock with two paper clips, I didn't need a key, would the police look elsewhere.

--47.156.xx.xx




Key Management? (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 5:01 PM
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Are there any systems that require a special tool to remove the lockset? Occasionally, a tenant will change all of the entry locks. I find out when my key no longer works. It doesn't happen often, but I would like to install locks that cannot be removed by tenants. --107.141.xx.xxx




Key Management? (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 5:34 PM
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Another one for LL Locks. That's a time and stress saver. --209.122.xx.xxx




Key Management? (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 8:27 PM
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LL Locks. I have 2 multi families so I use 2 sets so each building has itís own system. I carry 2 master keys, one for each building. I have 2 small tupperware tubs with the small Manila envelopes for extra keys and extra cores. I keep a list in each with unit #, core # and date used to help me decide which core to use next. --24.61.xxx.xx




Key Management? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 8:57 PM
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Still,

Ernie can create a GRAND MASTER for you then a MASTER for each building.

Scott,

Ernie sells TRAP installation screws which require a special tool to remove.

Moby,

There is no KEY MANAGEMENT. The cylinder is use is marked on the lease. As we swap them out the old cylinders and old keys go into a tray and are married, cleaned, keys ordered as needed, and in another tray ready to use.

We clean the keys by soaking them in vinegar. They look bramd new and fresh.

EVERY key that goes out has our company keytag.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Key Management? (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 9:25 PM
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LL locks also sells TRAP screws that have to removed with a proprietary screwdriver tip that make it a lot harder (not impossible) to remove the lock. --204.210.xxx.xxx




Key Management? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2018 10:31 PM
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I use the icore LL locks and for the most part like them. I've had a couple issues with them freezing up, so I've started squirting graphite powder in them at each tenant change and cleaning the cores carefully when I remove them.

Also the bezels are very thin metal and damage easily.

I use only the deadbolt so it is impossible for the tenant to lock themselves out...you must walk out the door, and use your key to lock the deadbolt. I've never had a lockout call.

Good luck. --99.92.xxx.xxx




Key Management? (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 4:26 AM
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I also use deadbolts and still get lockout calls because they lost their key. --209.122.xx.xxx




Key Management? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 6:01 AM
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As stated, only deadbolts so no generally no lockout calls. Did have one set of tenants who said they broke one of the keys and lost the other. We charge $10 per key for replacements or extras or if not returned for some reason.

We too have seen issues with sticking so we do the graphite thing as well. --50.82.xxx.xx




Key Management? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 6:44 AM
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LOL GKARL, that's pretty funny right there.

Yes we charge $10 for a key also...usually it's an "additional" key for a relative or child...as we only give two keys by default normally. --99.92.xxx.xxx




Key Management? (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2018 11:27 AM
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I have thought about using the icore / landlord locks but haven't as of yet. I actually have the keys tagged (from the hardwood store with multi colored tabs) and just write the address code on them.

Hanging on the wall is a key box with the keys inside hanging.

I typically use (try to use) the kwikset keys and change the keys not the locks. I do property management for others so many times the owner "won't pay" (read as "that's too much")for the cost of an icore/landlord lock so I MAKE them at least pay for the kwikset ones or I CHARGE THEM $75 minimum to change out 2 locks. Each additional is $50. I'm tired of wasting my time and efforts. With the kwikset it's about the same time as the icore/ landlord locks ... not even a few minutes (unless it's all the doors).

Many times it takes me longer to walk through the property to ensure I have all the doors than it does to actually rekey the locks.

Plus - with managing others property - when/if they sell they don't want the landlord/icore locks ... the other locks are "regular" locks/handles, etc so no one really knows the difference.

--69.201.xx.xxx




Key Management? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 4, 2018 1:08 PM
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LL locks save me time and are worth the initial investment upfront --72.23.xxx.xx




Key Management? (by Josh [CA]) Posted on: Dec 4, 2018 2:02 PM
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Landlord Locks all the way. One of my greattest tools. Saved me time money and peace of mind. --71.9.xxx.xx



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