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166 to none (by NE [PA]) Nov 14, 2018 2:03 PM
       166 to none (by Roy [AL]) Nov 14, 2018 2:10 PM
       166 to none (by NE [PA]) Nov 14, 2018 2:13 PM
       166 to none (by RB [MI]) Nov 14, 2018 2:20 PM
       166 to none (by RB [MI]) Nov 14, 2018 2:20 PM
       166 to none (by NE [PA]) Nov 14, 2018 2:22 PM
       166 to none (by Homer [TX]) Nov 14, 2018 2:26 PM
       166 to none (by NE [PA]) Nov 14, 2018 2:29 PM
       166 to none (by Still Learning [NH]) Nov 14, 2018 2:34 PM
       166 to none (by razorback_tim [AR]) Nov 14, 2018 2:59 PM
       166 to none (by WMH [NC]) Nov 14, 2018 3:02 PM
       166 to none (by Paulio [PA]) Nov 14, 2018 3:18 PM
       166 to none (by plenty [MO]) Nov 14, 2018 3:19 PM
       166 to none (by myob [GA]) Nov 14, 2018 4:08 PM
       166 to none (by Laura [MD]) Nov 14, 2018 5:56 PM
       166 to none (by LisaFL [FL]) Nov 14, 2018 6:01 PM
       166 to none (by Gene [OH]) Nov 14, 2018 6:01 PM
       166 to none (by NE [PA]) Nov 14, 2018 6:07 PM
       166 to none (by NE [PA]) Nov 14, 2018 6:10 PM
       166 to none (by myob [GA]) Nov 14, 2018 6:30 PM
       166 to none (by NE [PA]) Nov 14, 2018 6:34 PM
       166 to none (by J [FL]) Nov 14, 2018 6:37 PM
       166 to none (by Vee [OH]) Nov 14, 2018 6:43 PM
       166 to none (by Gail K [GA]) Nov 14, 2018 7:40 PM
       166 to none (by Lynda [TX]) Nov 14, 2018 7:47 PM
       166 to none (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 14, 2018 9:35 PM
       166 to none (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 14, 2018 10:49 PM
       166 to none (by Roy [AL]) Nov 15, 2018 12:16 AM
       166 to none (by WMH [NC]) Nov 15, 2018 4:48 AM
       166 to none (by Robin [WI]) Nov 15, 2018 5:29 AM
       166 to none (by Roy [AL]) Nov 15, 2018 8:04 AM
       166 to none (by Mark [AL]) Nov 20, 2018 2:21 PM
       166 to none (by NE [PA]) Nov 20, 2018 3:08 PM


166 to none (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:03 PM
Message:

On the market 100 days. 166 prospects. 39 showings. Maybe 15 apps. NO QUALIFED APPLICANTS. Listed below market, will not move. Totally remodeled unit, nothing to improve there.

My screening requirements have been the same for a long time. Basic stuff, no evictions, 3x income, etc.

I honestly think I need to relax my credit requirements a little bit. I look for 650 and up. 600-649, I want double deposit. Nothing below 599. My problem with 600-649 is there's are usually TONS of new collections or not enough income or some civil suit or something. I wouldn't mind some collections, but I don't want a bunch of brand new ones.

It's a deadbeats world.

I should not sit empty over 3 months on a remodeled unit that is under market. --50.107.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:10 PM
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From your 15 apps,..what has been your best applicant so far? Double deposit would never fly here. --68.63.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:13 PM
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Honestly Roy, they've been crap. The best one so far was probably the guy who showed up the other day who was clean cut, decent job, clean car, all his teeth and didn't give me the creeps. Except his credit is in the toilet. Like 453 or some nonsense like that. Mountains of new collections. --50.107.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:20 PM
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I hear ya,

although others claim to have 2-3 day turnovers,

waiting lists and Rock Stars. --184.53.x.xxx




166 to none (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:20 PM
Message:

I hear ya,

although others claim to have 2-3 day turnovers,

waiting lists and Rock Stars. --184.53.x.xxx




166 to none (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:22 PM
Message:

Ya RB, there's no waiting lists here. The only waiting is me! I spoke with another landlord the other day and he said it's nothing for him to sit 2 months either. --50.107.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:26 PM
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If I waited on applicant that were perfect, I would never rent a house. I start out strong, but usually after 3-4 applications. I am ready to find the best of the worse. Working out okay. 28 units, only two vacancies this year. One of which bought a house. A lost of, I think about three weeks total on both. I will take a much higher deposit, and I do enforce zero tolerance, even before it became a popular term on this site. --75.141.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:29 PM
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Homer, I'm not looking for perfect. I'm just finding less people able to jump over the bar I've set like I used to. --50.107.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:34 PM
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Do you have a local housing report that comes out yearly? Our local vacancy rate is about 4-5%. Interestingly when we bought the buildings 5-7 years ago the vacancy rate was 5% and units typically sat empty for 25-30 days between tenants. Then the vacancy rate dropped to 2%, rents went up and units were vacant for only as many days as it took to turn them. Recently I had to drop the price by $50 and empty units sat for 25-30 days. When the housing report came out with the vacancy rate back to 5%, it made sense. --24.61.xxx.xx




166 to none (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 2:59 PM
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I'm having similar luck. I'm not looking for perfect either. I willingly rent to tenants with low credit score because I know they will be renters for awhile and if I take care of them and they don't lose they ability to pay they're likely to be with me awhile. I'm looking for some basic things:

Don't lie to me on the application

Have a history of paying your housing bills on time

No evictions

3x the rent in monthly income

Good references from current and previous landlords

No recent drug or felony convictions or no pattern of criminal behavior.

Take decent care of the place you live in.

Take good care of your animals if you have them.

If you can do those things I'm likely to rent to you. I don't care if your credit is in the tank because you made a poor decision to buy a $40,000 truck and it got repossessed two years ago or if you have a bunch of outstanding medical bills from a few years ago. Like NE, I don't like to see a bunch of new collections - that's a sign of someone who's having financial trouble.

Thought I had one rented to a couple this past weekend. Between the two of them they had good income, although short time at their jobs. Had a good reference from previous LL's. No red flags. Until I went to meet the two dogs they have. She had them in the yard on leashes when I got there and she still had zero control over them. Could not keep them from jumping on me and one of them I could have sworn was going to bite me. If you're going to have pets, especially large dogs, you need to be able to control them if you want to rent from me.

On that one I've had 63 inquiries, 21 showings, and 9 apps. I have one couple I'm processing now that I'm cautiously optimistic about. We'll see. --12.156.xx.x




166 to none (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 3:02 PM
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We don't do 2-3 day turnovers. We take 60 days to find the right person THEN it's a one-day turnover.

It's a sad situation out there these days. --50.82.xxx.xx




166 to none (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 3:18 PM
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Raise the rent $250 but advertise "We take pitbulls!" --50.107.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 3:19 PM
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Try a move in special. --99.203.xx.xxx




166 to none (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 4:08 PM
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With the economy the way it is-- the 650's are buying houses-- 600's too.

We say, when we look at 500's, man they had to work to get it that low.

I'm not the master of rentals here but in my opinion you gotta change that 650 thinking or you'll be stuck another 6 months. I wouldn't know how to act with a 600 applicant-- maybe even lower the deposit?

Increase risk increase deposits-- applicants know it. --99.103.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 5:56 PM
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Same here, honestly I am really just looking for;enough income to truly be able to afford the place, garnishable income and no dangerous animals. Nothing.....

--72.2.xxx.xx




166 to none (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 6:01 PM
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Well I guess I'm a rockstar. Not really but I do I have a waiting list of qualified tenants and always pretty much do turnovers with no down time. It's just my market and maybe time in the business. Don't know where everyone gets my name/number. But when there is a shortage of rentals and you offer a good value there is no shortage of applicants. I've had people move in with family for a month or two just to wait for one of mine. They rent them before even seeing the after pictures. And oh what a sellers market we have as well! Last two I listed I received full asking price in 24 hours after listing.

I am so very spoiled. If this gets hard again I'm getting out. I want to sell more but this is just too easy right now. Every market is just different. --96.59.xx.xxx




166 to none (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 6:01 PM
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NE, my rental criteria on all my properties (Class A & B), is if someone has a FICO score less than 600 they are required to pay a double deposit, but I really look harder at the meat of the credit report. Some of my best tenants have not cleared the 600 FICO score. One of my better current tenants had a 528 score, but usually those with a score less than 560 haven't been the best tenants. --99.165.xx.xxx




166 to none (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 6:07 PM
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Thanks Gene, that's kind of where I'm at. I may need to tweak the credit some now. It was nothing for me to get above 650 score for tenants a year or so ago. They just don't seem to be shopping at the moment. --50.107.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 6:10 PM
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Also on the flip side of this coin my evictions are up too. At least the filings are. --50.107.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 6:30 PM
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NE PA B I N G O!!!! Evictions up- judgments up -- garnishment way up +25% collection fee. WHATS the down side? Does PA allow garnishment? Many states don't allow. --99.103.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 6:34 PM
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Pa does allow it. I don't think on civil though. (Need clarification) Plus if they fall below certain poverty guidelines we can't garnish anyway. At this point with the small judgements I have, I haven't spent much time pursuing them. They are recorded at the courthouse though and will stay active. --50.107.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by J [FL]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 6:37 PM
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I think the 650+ requirement is the problem too...and maybe just the time of year as well? Even here in sunny Florida it sucks trying to find decent tenants at this time of year. --72.188.xxx.xx




166 to none (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 6:43 PM
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This black friday time of year is slow, but if you have a nice glowing raise the rent 250 and get better clients. --76.188.xxx.xx




166 to none (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 7:40 PM
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I'm in the same boat as many here. Dismal prospects. And folks don't read the ads. Many don't appear worried they have a history of evictions; or are confused because they leave before finding themselves sitting on the curb with their belongings (but after the landlord has filed against them) and don't seem to realize that yes, they have been evicted.

Had a couple interested but said they were going to buy their own home in about a year. Ran their screening; not only did both have histories of evictions but both had FICO scores in the 400 range due to collections. Good luck getting a mortgage with that one.

Gail --71.203.xx.xx




166 to none (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 7:47 PM
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Anyone looking for a better level of tenants?? You have to advertise directly to the work places of the people you WANT as tenants. Make a list of all the large businesses and workplaces where higher educated personnel work, including:

1) Hospitals,clinics,labs; colleges and universities, the Dept of Schools, the local newspapers, large legal offices,etc

2) City and state services&utilities: telephone, water,gas&electric companies, and don't forget the city bus dept if there is one.

3) any Fed govt offices,any branches of the military including the local recruiting office.

4) big businesses(e.g. in San Antonio we have a beer brewery, a cola bottling plant, a Toyota plant,and the large warehouses of our major food store-HEB

=You advertise to the Personnel or Human Resource Depts of the above with very nice colored photo fliers with all your info. Be sure to mention all the major highways N/S/E/W that will help your future tenants drive to WORK.

Targeting the people you WANT as tenants by advertising to their work place is the KEY to getting working tenants, higher salaried tenants, better educated tenants, tenants that make better life decisions, tenants with better rental history and tenants with less criminal activity!

I garan-dam-tee you that these people are not going to be looking for their next abode on CL. --108.87.xx.xxx




166 to none (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 9:35 PM
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I've had to come up with ways to rent difficult unit in hard times. But I always got my first and deposit, on discounts there. I a tenant pays on time for 11 months, then the 12th month is free. Rarely a tenant can pay 11 months on time. I save the envelope with the post mark for proof.

Sometimes I'll offer extra appliances to get a place rented. Or free basic cable. An extra parking sport. Storage. A shed. A dog run with a doggy door for little to medium non aggressive dogs.

Even once I gave two tenants an above ground pool with gas heater. Even a hot tub a dozen times..... Even a free monthly bus pass. You find out what a applicant wants and then negotiate with the good ones. Good luck... --47.156.xx.xx




166 to none (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2018 10:49 PM
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NE,

I'm not Chicken Little but our renters are the canary in the mine, the first to feel a recession.

What I don't understand is there are jobs everywhere in my city. If you can pass a drug test you're hired. They will teach you how to read!

BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Nov 15, 2018 12:16 AM
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NE,

In my town, when LL's get hard-up for tenants, they go and hang-out at the Section 8 office. And these are LL's who say they would never accept a Sec. 8 tenant too.

Will you consider Section 8 ? I have Section 8 T's and they are not as bad as everyone says they are. You just have to know to manage them. --68.63.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 15, 2018 4:48 AM
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I tell prospective tenants I don't care about credit SCORE, and I don't. I care that they have the income to pay the rent going forward. --50.82.xxx.xx




166 to none (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Nov 15, 2018 5:29 AM
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I pull credit reports but barely glance at the credit score. I look at how many payments they're making on time vs. late, and debt load. If they pay their bills on time, that's good enough for me.

Credit scores are funny beasts. Go from no debt to a car loan that's 50% paid off, and your credit score will actually INCREASE. I don't think I have a tenant with a credit score above 550, but I'm almost at 100% for on-time rent payments for the last year. --204.210.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Nov 15, 2018 8:04 AM
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Most tenants, who value having a roof over their heads will pay rent. --68.63.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by Mark [AL]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2018 2:21 PM
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In Alabama,I think everyone has bad credit.No one interested in a 600 to $750 house ever pays any medical bills. This is the biggest volume of credit hits locally.

Lower the bar.No past evictions,do not consider medical hits.Past landlords are the best source,if they are honest and not glad to see them leaving and talking positive on a bad tenant.

--24.42.xxx.xxx




166 to none (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2018 3:08 PM
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I don't count medical against anyone. --50.32.xxx.xxx





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