CSST gas piping ground? (by CJ [MO]) Sep 17, 2018 4:50 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by NE [PA]) Sep 17, 2018 4:52 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by CJ [MO]) Sep 17, 2018 4:57 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by NE [PA]) Sep 17, 2018 5:00 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by Richard [MI]) Sep 17, 2018 5:13 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by AllyM [NJ]) Sep 17, 2018 5:18 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by CJ [MO]) Sep 17, 2018 5:19 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by JAC [OH]) Sep 17, 2018 5:44 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by CJ [MO]) Sep 17, 2018 5:52 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by JAC [OH]) Sep 17, 2018 6:01 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by myob [GA]) Sep 17, 2018 6:01 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by JAC [OH]) Sep 17, 2018 6:17 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Sep 17, 2018 7:20 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by Vee [OH]) Sep 17, 2018 7:34 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Sep 18, 2018 12:07 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by cjo'h [CT]) Sep 18, 2018 12:30 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by John... [MI]) Sep 18, 2018 2:53 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by Nicole [PA]) Sep 19, 2018 12:59 PM
CSST gas piping ground? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 4:50 PM Message:
Is it OK to ground the gas pipr to the furnace to the cold water piple? The gas company requires ground now..
Thanks everyone for help.
--97.91.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 4:52 PM Message:
Hire a tech. --74.37.xx.xx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 4:57 PM Message:
Already hired an contractor there. spent $330, but did not know how to fix it. Contact some other, busy or not know how. --97.91.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 5:00 PM Message:
Best not to play with things that go boom. --74.37.xx.xx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 5:13 PM Message:
Why not call the gas company and see what they say? --23.121.xx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 5:18 PM Message:
OK not sure but the water heater has a wire running between two pipes on top of it and one is the cold water pipe. I have seen electrical boxes grounded to a cold water pipe. --73.178.xxx.xx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 5:19 PM Message:
Called gas company and they told me to hire plumber. The HVAC contractor told me to call electricion. --97.91.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 5:44 PM Message:
It should be bonded to the ground. Connect it to the ground wire that is connected to the water pipe or the grounded water pipe directly. It should not be used as a ground but should be bonded to the ground. --208.102.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 5:52 PM Message:
JAC, Connect #6 wire from the black gas pipe to cold water ok?
--97.91.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 6:01 PM Message:
That is what I would do. An alternate location is the CSST metal coupling connected to the black pipe. --208.102.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 6:01 PM Message:
No don't do it. Water lines -- may not be copper all the way to street. When repairs are made in the yard a new section of CPVC or pvc may be used-- now you have NO continuity. Drive the 20ft ground rod into he soil and connect to it with proper copper connector. --99.103.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 6:17 PM Message:
OK let me clarify here. Bond your black pipe to your known ground. I have two grounds in my apt building. One connected to the metal water pipe that comes in the building and one that connects to a ground rod at the side of the building. That being said even if my metal pipe transitions to non metal outside it is far enough in the ground to be considered connected to ground. You don't have to be connected to the city pipes via metal to be considered grounded. My ground rod connection provides another path to ground as well. --208.102.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 7:20 PM Message:
Bought a house with CSST and I opted to have it all ripped out and replaced with traditional black pipe. I did a lot of research on this subject. The concern with CSST is related to how it handles lightening strikes. Due to it's thin walls that give it flexibility, it's possible that lightening could strike the pipe, perforate it, and at that point, you have a punctured gas pipe, an endless supply of flammable fuel, and a spark. Basically it becomes a blow torch in your attic.
With bonding and grounding, YES, definitely tie it directly to earth ground in the shortest path possible. By earth ground, I mean a direct wire attached to a spike in the ground. I believe it's an 8-10 foot metal rod. You don't want to use water pipe for reasons others have said, but also because it's not the shortest path to ground. Remember, lightening is going to be following that path. The problem with bonding and grounding is that you can't be certain that it's done correctly, and there's no set standard, differing by manufacturer. Also, even if it's done correctly, who's going to know if it's been undone at some future point.
In some of my research, at least one of the houses that burned to the ground had bonded and grounded CSST. Considering the house I was buying had lightening rods installed, it made me wonder. Replacing CSST with black pipe isn't that expensive if most of it is in the attic. --108.69.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 7:34 PM Message:
Took this class a few years ago, the grounding specs have stepped up and the CCST design has also, the awg6 can attach to the existing grounding conductor (bare copper near the load center) and go to the combo of gas/water at the gas fired water heater, the new CCST has a screw to connect the grounding conductor wire - the old corrugated flex (mostly covered in yellow shrink wrap) had a bracket that had the grounding screw. --76.188.xxx.xx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2018 12:07 PM Message:
Mine was the old yellow shrink wrapped version, from the 90s. Didn't see that it was grounded though. --108.69.xxx.xxx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2018 12:30 PM Message:
CJ,I think it's time you got rid of those characters who call themselves Contractors,especially when you pay them that kind of money.I'm a Carpenter and "a country boy"from Northern Ireland,right on the farm,we were organic farmers and didn't know it? Even I know how to ground something,what's their excuse?...................charlie...................................................... --32.214.xxx.xx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2018 2:53 PM Message:
You "hired an contractor" and "spent $330" but they "not know how to fix it"!??
What did you PAY them for then??
Seriously -- every time you have a situation that you post here, I have to go "What the heck is going on!?"
You keep digging yourself these holes, I think. :(
- John...
--96.40.xx.xx |
CSST gas piping ground? (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2018 12:59 PM Message:
agree not to touch anything regarding gas. I didn't read through them the whole way but two answered above ... both know what they are doing ... and they either disagree or are clarifying.
Call a HVAC company - their guys do plumbing & electrical. We've got a large one in my area - charges a lot of money but no coordination needed for things that require more than one skill set. I use them about once a year for something small so that I remain an active customer ... for when I want something complicated or large done.
I wouldn't have paid anyone $330 if they didn't do what I requested. Your initial phone call should have had enough detail that they either knew what to do or not.
If the plumber couldn't do it, why do you think you can? --72.70.xxx.x |
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