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Make ready cost (by JO [OK]) Jul 20, 2018 12:24 PM
       Make ready cost (by NE [PA]) Jul 20, 2018 12:50 PM
       Make ready cost (by Sisco [MO]) Jul 20, 2018 1:04 PM
       Make ready cost (by Deanna [TX]) Jul 20, 2018 1:11 PM
       Make ready cost (by Ken [NY]) Jul 20, 2018 1:54 PM
       Make ready cost (by John [NY]) Jul 20, 2018 2:27 PM
       Make ready cost (by J [FL]) Jul 20, 2018 2:54 PM
       Make ready cost (by plenty [MO]) Jul 20, 2018 2:57 PM
       Make ready cost (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 20, 2018 3:11 PM
       Make ready cost (by Deanna [TX]) Jul 20, 2018 4:23 PM
       Make ready cost (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 20, 2018 5:30 PM
       Make ready cost (by Kurt [MI]) Jul 20, 2018 6:13 PM
       Make ready cost (by Dave [MO]) Jul 20, 2018 6:18 PM
       Make ready cost (by Sandy [CO]) Jul 20, 2018 8:01 PM
       Make ready cost (by AllyM [NJ]) Jul 20, 2018 8:05 PM
       Make ready cost (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Jul 21, 2018 4:12 AM
       Make ready cost (by Jeffrey [VA]) Jul 21, 2018 4:53 AM


Make ready cost (by JO [OK]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 12:24 PM
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I've been getting slammed with the cost of make readies on pretty much every one of my rentals. Mind you, a good number have been evictions so the tenants leave the homes trashed! Regardless, I'm struggling with the reality of what it's costing me to have the houses done for the next tenant. For example.. I've recently received a bid for close to 10,000! It's needing a substantial trash out, full paint, carpets replaced (going w a cheap vinyl or laminate) a cleaning and some tree trimming. It's a 4br 2 bath about 1175 sq ft. My rentals are class B/C. Am I wrong by having sticker shock? If so, any suggestions on some more reasonable contractors?

TIA --72.198.x.xxx




Make ready cost (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 12:50 PM
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There's many things going on in your business to be getting you to this point. Time for a reboot. --174.201.x.xxx




Make ready cost (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 1:04 PM
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Are you wrong for having sticker shock? NO

Keep this pain in mind as you tighten up your screening.

Get Judgements, garnish wages; if you find that you cannot, learn why not and make adjustments.

--72.172.xxx.xx




Make ready cost (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 1:11 PM
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It's like a line, with turnover at one end, and then renovation at the other end.

Cleaning is a basic make-ready thing. Tree trimming is normal maintenance, but is better for the fall/winter. De-trashing comes with the territory of a bad eviction. Replacing flooring comes into play in the worst situations.

You sound like you've definitely crossed the line into renovation territory.

When you say "pretty much every one of my rentals" and "a good number have been evictions", that implies that there are problems on both sides, most likely with screening.

When you say "going w a cheap vinyl or laminate", you have two choices. You can either get a cheap floor, and have it last maybe 5 years before it needs total replacing, or you can get something more durable out of the lower-middle range of your flooring options, and have something that will last you 15-20 years or more. For example, for my first renovations, I went with closeout vinyl tiles that were around 49-69 cents/sf, and they were nice, and okay... but they weren't durable, didn't wear well, and couldn't take the stress of rentals. Now, I'm more in the $1.29-$1.69/sf range, and I'm much more satisfied with the durability.

Don't overimprove. One good rule of thumb is to look at what's cheapest-- and then see what you can get by buying the next grade or two better. You'll get much better results for not a whole lot of extra.

But it does sound like you need to modify things on the business side of things, in terms of who you entrust your investment to in the first place. --96.46.xxx.xx




Make ready cost (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 1:54 PM
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I would suggest you break it down into several jobs,possibly whoever gave you a price isn't used to pricing that much work and he gave you a high price because he got scared of pricing it too low or maybe he is overly skilled for the trashout but if you will pay big bucks he will do it.A lot of these jobs may be appropriate for a lower paid hourly guy where you supervise and get him supplies.Trashing it out is a low skilled job,you can find someone cheap but you will need to order and pay for the dumpster because this guy wont have the money up front or the ability to arrange to get a dumpster,same guy may be able to do the painting but you will need to get the paint and supplies to the job and supervise him.Tree work goes to my skilled tree guy who has the boom truck and equipment,he gives me good prices because I use him a few times a year and refer business to him.When I do carpet,primarily for flips I have a skilled flooring guy who gets it right the first time.Cleaning is something the unskilled guy can do or at least the worst of it then bring in someone with more attention to detail to do the final cleaning --72.231.xxx.xxx




Make ready cost (by John [NY]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 2:27 PM
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Must be a really good rental market in OK. If it cost me $10,000 between tenants, there goes the whole years rent. What's the purpose of renting then, unless the property appreciates 5% per year. My market I have to do it myself, or not make money, and other owners I do work for must have a loss they write off against income tax from their jobs. --108.176.xxx.xxx




Make ready cost (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 2:54 PM
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I'm going through this right now too but it's more because the place is dated looking and needs a lot of upgrades.

I think if your high expenses are solely from tenants trashing the places you need to look at your screening. This isn't normal. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Make ready cost (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 2:57 PM
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Yep...you need to be work on more screening prior to giving keys. Lots more work there to be done.

bid $10,000

$1000 trash out

$2000 full paint and labor

$3000 carpets replaced (vinyl or laminate)

$500 cleaning

$1200 tree trimming.

(Tree trimming is maintenance not tenant damage)

Does that add up 10 $10k... get another bid. Is there anything you can do yourself to save to out lay of cash?

What amount of deposit do you get? Trash out and cleaning certainly could be paid for with deposit. Paint and flooring depends on the age and type of damage.

Pet damage?

You're are the right place to ask the question and because you asked... ready for some changes in your business?

--99.203.xx.xxx




Make ready cost (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 3:11 PM
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One way to reduce costs is consider visiting a few different Habitat for Humanity restores for materials, paint along with faucets, electrical. Consider only buying metal receptacle covers. Seconds doors may have a blemish where painting and sanding no one sees it. Miss tint mixed paint will cover the same as other paint where adding a few cans of white can paint a entire rental unit. Class C or B used appliances will do as it does not matter the appliances are only good for scrap metal recycling in three to five years. That only leaves the labour portion where sometimes can not do much about. --147.194.xxx.xx




Make ready cost (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 4:23 PM
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Consider finding a few $10/hr guys to do unskilled/low-skilled jobs.

--166.137.xxx.xx




Make ready cost (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 5:30 PM
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I own a duplex with an partner. I rented out one unit and my partner the other. It took him 3 days to find someone and sign a lease. It took me over a month to find someone I'd consider renting.

Within a few months my partners tenant stop paying rent and it took 3 months to evict. Then it took him a month to fix the place up, costing over $15,000.

My tenant who I hand picked out of 9 applicants is still there after 11 years. He pays current market rents and has no problem with annual rent increases.

My partner still hasn't learned, he is on his third eviction.

It is far cheaper to hold off accepting any Joe and wait for a real Prince.. --47.156.xx.xx




Make ready cost (by Kurt [MI]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 6:13 PM
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How much of this is deferred maintenance versus "make ready".

Did the tenant destroy the painted walls? Did they destroy the carpeting? Did they make the trees overgrow?

You should be setting aside cash reserves for normal but irregular expenses (roofs/flooring/etc).

Sounds like you may be dealing with a lot of deferred maintenance --107.5.xxx.xx




Make ready cost (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 6:18 PM
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Jo, sceening is key in this business, we invset in people.

Get some more bids.

Tell us what is your screening policy?

I think we can help more, once we find out what you do or don't do.

--108.243.xxx.xx




Make ready cost (by Sandy [CO]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 8:01 PM
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I just spent $15K on one 1500 sf rental. She had been in there 8 years, and it needed three windows, new doors, paint (w ceilings) ($3000) flooring, we did the vinyl plank lifeproof... beautiful! ($3300), electrical upgrade & furnace and a/c ($6500).... without the elect/furnace/a/c upgrades it would be around $8500. --107.2.xxx.xx




Make ready cost (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 8:05 PM
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The person who gave you that number is not good at estimating and just guessing. Can you get separate people to do the work? If your contractor is a painter he has to hire out to others to do the other work. You are paying for that. I have a handyman who paints and someone else to do tree and landscape trimming and I know what they will charge. If I needed stuff hauled away I would call someone else. When we used to have phone books it was easy to find people. Ask someone else for what you need. If you call a plumber, ask him for an electrician etc and get separate estimates. It could cost ten grand when all is said and done, but you would know what the breakdown is. --73.178.xxx.xx




Make ready cost (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2018 4:12 AM
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I dont know your market costs.

But in toronto, 10,000 for painting a house, replacing flooring and a clean out after an eviction would not be unreasonable. --70.31.xx.xxx




Make ready cost (by Jeffrey [VA]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2018 4:53 AM
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JO, you asked for suggestions...

I wish I could give you a spoon full of sugar to help the medicine go down... because you may not like what I have to say.

It's not the houses that need to be renovated. Your whole rental business approach needs to be closely re evaluated and renovated.

Until you stop blaming the problem on tenants trashing your places, you will continue to spend thousands of dollars unnecessarily. And you talk as though it's normal for an evicted tenant to trash a place. Not in my world. I had a resident scheduled for eviction next week. They cooperated and moved out this week. After a couple hundred dollars turn around expense, next person scheduled to move in Monday. But that scenario took into account my whole approach to dealing with residents from day one.

My suggestion: Make plans now to come to the next landlording boot camp in November and let me help you change your entire approach to managing your rentals and give you the tools to do so. The cost is chump change, less than a thousand dollars, compared to the tens of thousands of dollars you may end up spending over the next few years.

Your choice... --100.4.xx.xxx





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