 Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Mar 21, 2018 9:08 AM
 Warring Roomers (by Robin [WI]) Mar 21, 2018 9:13 AM
Warring Roomers (by NE [PA]) Mar 21, 2018 9:13 AM
Warring Roomers (by Dave [MO]) Mar 21, 2018 9:18 AM
Warring Roomers (by Barb [MO]) Mar 21, 2018 9:27 AM
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Mar 21, 2018 9:29 AM
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Mar 21, 2018 9:33 AM
Warring Roomers (by S i d [MO]) Mar 21, 2018 9:37 AM
Warring Roomers (by Frank [NJ]) Mar 21, 2018 10:43 AM
Warring Roomers (by Ken [NY]) Mar 21, 2018 11:00 AM
Warring Roomers (by AllyM [NJ]) Mar 21, 2018 11:38 AM
Warring Roomers (by Frank [NJ]) Mar 21, 2018 12:06 PM
Warring Roomers (by Frank [NJ]) Mar 21, 2018 12:08 PM
Warring Roomers (by DJ [VA]) Mar 21, 2018 6:06 PM
Warring Roomers (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 21, 2018 9:28 PM
Warring Roomers (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 21, 2018 9:29 PM
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Mar 22, 2018 3:54 AM
Warring Roomers (by Vee [OH]) Mar 22, 2018 6:09 AM
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Mar 22, 2018 8:28 AM
Warring Roomers (by Barb [MO]) Mar 22, 2018 9:26 AM
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Mar 22, 2018 10:05 AM
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:08 AM
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I have an older lady who's been with me for about a year. She's a diabetic, on SSI and gets about $ 1200 a month. Initially, she was on a floor with another couple who constantly complained about her sloppiness and using their toiletries. She befriended another couple on another floor and moved to their floor where they worked out a deal to assist her and she was paying them. Everything worked well for months and now they've had the falling out. This couple is now complaining and accused the elderly woman of throwing their boots down the stairs and calling them names. The older woman does need some assistance as her room reeks of urine and that's my main concern. And now that she's refusing the couple's help, it may be time for her to go. I feel she really needs to be in an assisted living facility. The ambulance has been called to the rooming house at least 2-3 times for her---I called one time myself. In addition, I'm concerned about the health aspect of her soiling herself and her effect on the couple. Both of them have been good tenants and have been with me for about a year. I have the phone numbers of her representative payee and her sister, but I don't want to get too overly involved here other than deciding if she needs to continue living in the rooming house.
How would you address the situation?
--64.121.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:13 AM
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She's damaging the property and causing problems with good tenants. Sounds like it's time for her to go. I'd contact the payee and her sister and tell them they have three weeks to find a new place for her. I don't know that I'd give her more than a week's notice out of concern that she might get destructive. --204.210.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:13 AM
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Seems to me that these rooming houses require more management and have more drama. Are you finding that to be the case? --174.201.x.xx |
Warring Roomers (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:18 AM
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For Missouri, I would call the Public Administrator, and they would send the proper authorities over to move your tenant to the a facility that can handle the daily needs of your tenant.
Speaking from experience, better to get a quick handle on the situation, because it will not get better. --159.118.xx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:27 AM
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I'd contact her payee and sister and tell them you are giving notice to find her a new home. She needs assisted living, which is expensive, but she is causing problems with the other residents and is unable to care for herself in your building. Since she is on SSI, does she pay monthly via her payee? When is her month up? At the end of the term, she needs to be out. --131.151.xx.xx |
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:29 AM
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NE, I spend about 1-2 hours a week managing the rooming house. The tenants have been getting along for the most part.
Robin: That's what I'm thinking. The other tenant is complaining that she's not washed her clothes for six weeks. That's likely because they were helping her and stopped after she stopped paying them and refused help. I'm thinking it's time for her to get help elsewhere. --64.121.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:33 AM
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Barb:
Her rep payee pays me monthly and her month is up on the 30th. That won't give her enough time to move. I'm going to wait to collect April's rent and then talk to everyone and have her out by April 30. --64.121.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:37 AM
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I concur with Robin and Dave[MO]. You run a rooming house: she needs a skilled nursing facility. --173.17.xx.xx |
Warring Roomers (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 10:43 AM
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Your mgmnt. efforts as reported sound below avg. for this type of rental.
The payee needs to help in placing the lady somewhere else. As rent was paid monthly are your notice plans correctly timewise?
--174.225.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 11:00 AM
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Frank,I have had rooming houses,I believe GKARL is spending less time there than would be expected because he is picking a better class of tenants for the building than would be expected or typical in a rooming house --72.231.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 11:38 AM
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Call the sister right away. What are you waiting for? You have more than enough reason and she could hurt herself and sissy will sue you. --69.141.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 12:06 PM
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Hi Ken. Re reading my post I can see see why you may have misinterpreted my intent which was to applaud GKarl for his skills in handling this rental. It is inspiring me for something coming my way which can result in achieving data life goal.
Stay tuned! --174.225.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 12:08 PM
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Ughh.
Achieving a life goal --174.225.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 6:06 PM
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I agree - it sounds like it's time for her to move, for everyone's good. Give notice to her family as well as her. Where they end up putting her isn't on you, but it can't be in the rooming house any more. Be Compassionate and firm. I certainly hope they move her out as they should. Let us know how it goes. --68.105.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:28 PM
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GKARL,
Me? I'd give notice now. It takes about an hour to pack up a room and move out. April 30 is almost 6 weeks away. You can lose your good residents and she can make the place stink even worse during those 6 weeks. This will only get worse, not better. Other vacancies will be difficult to fill due to odor and drama.
For her own good, she needs a different home.
I think the health risks and damage justifies a short notice.
BRAD --68.51.xx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 21, 2018 9:29 PM
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PS
In my area I have a contact with Adult Protective Services. They handle cases like this - people who can no longer care for themselves. It's just part of life.
BRAD --68.51.xx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2018 3:54 AM
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I think I'm going to move on this without delay. I like this tenant as do many in the neighborhood. She's often on the porch on warm days in her walker which doubles as a chair talking to folks. But, she needs to be somewhere else. I always thought the situation between her and the couple was tenuous in the sense if they ever moved, she had to be gone as her caregiver was no longer there. Now that the caregiver arrangement has ended, the effect is essentially the same as them having moved. I'll need to be sure to avoid this situation in the future.
Although it's not the case in this situation, in the past I have gotten applicants where families are trying to offload a sick or mentally ill relative. I'm finding that there's a bunch of folks with various health and mental issues with no place to go. --207.172.xx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2018 6:09 AM
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I did not do well in drama class so I would get a replacement after the unit has been deeply sanitized. --76.188.xxx.xx |
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2018 8:28 AM
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I spoke to the sister. Said that they had been trying to get her into a place, but she got rejected. I told her that I needed an immediate plan to deal with the sanitary problem and that over the next few weeks, she needs to find another place. The sister has had some of her own health issues and hadn't been in contact with the tenant recently. I also got ahold of our local agency on aging. Apparently, they had already arranged meals on wheels for her. I explained the situation and they're going to look into other services. Among the services they have are adult day care and home health aid services, both of which she needs. The couple providing these services without training wasn't sustainable anyway. --64.121.xxx.xxx |
Warring Roomers (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2018 9:26 AM
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If the local agency can arrange home health aid to help her clean up her area, and adult day care, does that mean you keep her?
It sounds like she is no longer getting along with people, and you don't want her driving others away. --131.151.xx.xx |
Warring Roomers (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2018 10:05 AM
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The local agency wanted to know if I was agreeable to letting her stay if they were to provide the services. I am not however committed to it if it doesn't work out. Her not getting along with her neighbors is a separate issue that I want to take up with her. Because even if she cleans up the sanitary act and that continues she's gone. --172.56.xx.xxx |
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