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Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Jen [OH]) Mar 19, 2018 8:38 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by NE [PA]) Mar 19, 2018 8:42 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Barb [MO]) Mar 19, 2018 9:12 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Jen [OH]) Mar 19, 2018 9:19 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by NE [PA]) Mar 19, 2018 9:21 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Jen [OH]) Mar 19, 2018 9:40 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by AllyM [NJ]) Mar 19, 2018 9:57 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 19, 2018 10:38 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Mar 19, 2018 11:35 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by LindaJ [NY]) Mar 19, 2018 12:46 PM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Ken [NY]) Mar 19, 2018 1:08 PM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by MJ [OH]) Mar 19, 2018 3:29 PM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Sisco [MO]) Mar 19, 2018 3:55 PM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Ed [PA]) Mar 19, 2018 5:24 PM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 19, 2018 6:38 PM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Mar 20, 2018 3:56 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Vee [OH]) Mar 20, 2018 4:17 AM
       Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 20, 2018 9:36 PM


Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 8:38 AM
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What heat Source would you use if you did not have gas lines in Northeast Ohio. Two-story house older, 1400 square foot. Looking for most efficient fuel source in an area that does get Sub-Zero temps from time to time.

Also it currently has a furnace however the condition of the Furnace is not great. .

I mentioned that because I'm also factoring in resale ability down the road and want to make sure I don't hinder any possible financing options with my choice. It's not necessarily obvious that the current furnace is not the best, but it was basically said would not have a long life span if it does function now.

Gas lines are not ran in the area because it's a rural setting. --74.141.xx.xx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 8:42 AM
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Electric. It's maintenance free and the tenants have to be borderline good to get power in their names. The old ones who owe the power company money won't rent.

--174.201.xx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 9:12 AM
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If no gas lines, do they have propane?

We didn't have natural gas here until the late 1990s, but had lots of propane. Hassle, but still works.

What does the current furnace use? --131.151.xx.xx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 9:19 AM
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Current furnace uses wood and oil. And this is a home I am considering moving into. I’ve heard electric is incredibly costly over gas. I was considering even pellet stove for heat

--74.141.xx.xx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 9:21 AM
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Sorry, thought it was a rental, not primary. What's wrong with existing? --174.201.xx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 9:40 AM
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Furnace was inspected. Could not say definitely that it was not safe to use. Our utilities were not on at the time of inspection. However it is believed that if there was any use out of it it will be minimal. The notion of putting wood into a furnace to heat the house does not sound fun to me.

So in the event that it is safe and functional right now, it will not be too much longer. --74.141.xx.xx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 9:57 AM
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You don't have much choice. I would probably use propane if there are good delivery services and add a wood stove. Also I would make sure the insulation is good in the attic. Throw some money at that. Have every possible heat source including a little baseboard electric if the wiring will stand it, or get some new wiring. That way if the propane doesn't show up on time you have wood and electric. Gas always shows up though someone died from a gas line repair not far from here when the repair crew broke something and it seeped into the woman's home along the outside of the gas pipe coming into her home. Yup, it does that. Her heater or water heater came on. She was inside but she ended up on the front end of her car burnt to a crisp. Horrifying and sad. --69.141.xxx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 10:38 AM
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How hot does it get in the summer? If there is any use at all for air conditioning, I'd install a heat pump.

Both propane and oil have large amounts due at delivery and you might need a high priced delivery in the middle of the winter. I don't think either oil or propane is cheaper than a heat pump.

I've used a good heat pump in an area with cold winters and it worked fine --174.216.xx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 11:35 AM
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A ground sourced heat pump is more efficient then a air sourced heat pump where expensive to install but very economical to operate for heating and cooling. Consider upgrading insulation, windows before installing a new heating system. Once the heat loss, heat gain is reduced then the entire HVAC system can be downsized. Most people often forget that if a house or building was super insulated then there would be no need for a heating or cooling system which is called a net zero building. Consider viewing videos on You Tube about different heating systems and insulation. If the property is rural a outside boiler can be used for heat, hot water. There should be a minimum of R20 in the walls and R50 in the ceiling. So spend upfront then later on use less utilities. For propane later on can easily converted to natural gas. Here when the price of oil spiked a lot of houses in rural locations installed ground sourced heat pumps. A ground sourced heat pump everything is inside the building where nothing is outside as the ground is used for heat transfer. The temperature of the ground remains once far enough down is a constant 10 degrees Celsius year round so it easy to ambient room temperature of 20 degrees. So during extreme heat or cold heat transfer remains constant. --147.194.xxx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 12:46 PM
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I would suggest you check the state and local websites as well as the utility providers and HVAC providers for rebates that might be available. That might make a difference in what you chose.

In my area, anything run on electric gets expensive. I prefer natural gas when it is available, if not, I like propane or oil as a primary source. If you do either, I suggests a big tank that you can fill once in the off season, and have it get you through most of the winter. Propane burns very clean, you can direct vent that out the wall and not worry about a chimney. Since it burns so clean you don't need it serviced every year like oil. If there is a chance of natural gas coming, propane is easy to convert.

A backup source of wood or pellet is nice, not sure I would rely on that if you were to go away for a few days. Pellet allows you to hopper up a stock of fuel and not have to load wood as often. You could just put one in a room that you want to have warmer. Both have issues with smoke blow back in the wind. As a backup, it probably has a better resale than a primary.

Resale would depend on what is standard in your area too. Are you planning in central air? That is where a heat pump might be more useful, but again electric. Not only is the cost and availability of fuel and issue, but the initial cost of the system should be taking into account. The other thing to think about is the market you might be selling to. If it is high end, most people want to just set the thermostat, not bother with wood or pellet. Lower end might want the savings of having that wood or pellet.

--96.236.xx.xx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 1:08 PM
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I have propane at my house and that is fine,the only other choices are oil and electric and oil is a pain compared to the propane.I have a wood stove and primarily use that and I love it but I realize most people don't.The pellet stove would be good but I don't think you want that as the only source of heat --72.231.xxx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by MJ [OH]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 3:29 PM
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If it was a house I was moving into then I would do propane and do a pellet stove as well. I like a fireplace of some sort and the pellet stove would at least provide a little fireplace ambience. --174.105.xxx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 3:55 PM
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Is anything wrong with your existing oil furnace? They are much cheaper than electric to operate. --72.172.xxx.xx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Ed [PA]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 5:24 PM
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Did a home inspector tell you that he couldn't tell if it will operate? That's a typical cover the a$$ move. Get a local HVAC company to inspect it before you throw it to the side. Oil is much cheaper than electric --72.95.xxx.xx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2018 6:38 PM
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I am just this side of the Ohio boarder and ran into a home without a heat source - but the price was right so I sent it out to bid. Since there was no gas there, the best bid i got was propane forced air --24.101.xxx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: Mar 20, 2018 3:56 AM
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set up an account at local plumbing / heating wholesale company. You can buy 95% efficient propane unit for under $1000. You will need a new plenum probably another $150. Hire heating guy to install - less that a days work with removal of old unit.

Look to getting an inground 1000 lbs tank installed.

It least getting a 300 lbs tank instead of 2 100 lbs tanks

--24.34.xx.xxx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 20, 2018 4:17 AM
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Here they will no longer put inground tanks for propane, unless you have an underground illuminated inspection and repair area for the tank - not cost effective, yes electric is costly however oil is still the most efficient heating product, if you risk running low keep a few 5gallon jugs and several primed filters ready to go in to get the -prime alive-, visit nopec online for more detail. --76.188.xxx.xx




Heat in ne ohio w/o gas l (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 20, 2018 9:36 PM
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Jen,

Prices vary greatly by area. In central Indiana gas is cheapest, then elec, the propane is highest and least convenient.

I suggest you investigate geothermal with elec.

And remember HVAC techs work on commission with phrases like “We’re nor sure this furnace will make it thru the winter. A new one is only $——- “

I always calculate the cost of new equipment against the cost savings of the new item to find a nreak even time. At my home with a less efficient furnace, I save money by keeping it, NOT spending more to save some.

BRAD --68.51.xx.xxx





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