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girlfriend moved out (by scott [TN]) Jan 17, 2018 9:07 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by S i d [MO]) Jan 17, 2018 9:21 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by scott [TN]) Jan 17, 2018 9:26 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by Ken [NY]) Jan 17, 2018 9:34 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by Frank [NJ]) Jan 17, 2018 9:39 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by Doogie [KS]) Jan 17, 2018 10:24 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by plenty [MO]) Jan 17, 2018 10:46 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by S i d [MO]) Jan 17, 2018 10:52 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by Richard [MI]) Jan 17, 2018 11:10 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by RB [MI]) Jan 17, 2018 11:26 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jan 17, 2018 11:27 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Jan 17, 2018 11:35 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by GKARL [PA]) Jan 17, 2018 1:14 PM
       girlfriend moved out (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Jan 17, 2018 1:34 PM
       girlfriend moved out (by scott [TN]) Jan 17, 2018 1:43 PM
       girlfriend moved out (by cjo'h [CT]) Jan 17, 2018 5:05 PM
       girlfriend moved out (by cjo'h [CT]) Jan 17, 2018 5:44 PM
       girlfriend moved out (by plenty [MO]) Jan 18, 2018 4:36 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by Vee [OH]) Jan 18, 2018 5:32 AM
       girlfriend moved out (by John [NY]) Jan 21, 2018 3:12 PM


girlfriend moved out (by scott [TN]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 9:07 AM
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My girlfriend was having an affair with the guy across the street. We have been living together since 3/17. She paid no rent. On Dec 31 2017 she was still living with me and told me that night she was leaving. I told her if she left, she could not come back and I took her keys. She came back the next day for a few of her things and left again. I served her with 30 day notice on 1/3. For the following week we spoke once and she said she was not coming back. She did not return any calls or text messages for the rest of the week. On Sat. 1/7 I came home to find her car parked across the street in the neighbor's driveway where she now lives. She obviously had been having some sort of affair with him for a while. She has no been gone since 12/31/17 and stated several times she is not coming back. She still has belongings on the property and my question is, does she still have rights as a tenant, or has she abandoned those rights? I believe she has even changed her mailing address. I do not want her on the property when I am not there and without my permission. Thanks.. --96.33.xxx.xx




girlfriend moved out (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 9:21 AM
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Are you a land lord or a tenant with a sub-lessee? If you're a tenant and you sub-leased to her (legally or by living arrangments), then you're on the hook and you have to kick her out just like your LL would have to. If you're the land lord and she just moved in with you...basically the same story. Either way, if you just dump her stuff on the porch and/or lock her out, you may be violating her rights. Ask a local land lord/tenant attorney.

When someone sets up house in your place and is "living" there, by law a tenancy is formed after a certain number of days or right away in most states...whether you ever signed any papers or agreed to anything verbally or not doesn't matter. The law protects the place people live and continues to do so even when they move out partially or are shacked up with someone else. Sort of like common law marriages happen in some states after folks live together for awhile. After X-period of time, stuff happens automatically. What a mess....

Posts like these are what make me glad I went the old-fashioned way....waiting for marriage to start playing house together. --173.19.xx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by scott [TN]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 9:26 AM
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Thank you but it seems you didn't read the question. She moved out. She left. I'm trying to find out if she has abandoned her rights as a "tenant" being gone for 15 days now and stating she is not returning. --96.33.xxx.xx




girlfriend moved out (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 9:34 AM
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I say she is gone and has no right to come on your property any longer --72.231.xxx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 9:39 AM
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this is an issue that is specific t your State and perhaps even your County/Municipality.

Start by lining up a visit with an LL/T atty. in you district and or getting and reading and understanding LL/T laws/regs that govern your district.

It might best pay you to go see an atty. One misstep couos cost you a lot. What happens when the bloom is off the rose and she wants to come "back home"?

Good luck --74.105.xxx.xx




girlfriend moved out (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 10:24 AM
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I think Sid did read your question and respond accordingly. I would have said the same thing as him. I don't know how TN law differs from KS law, but I imagine it's at least similar. If you're worried about repercussions, you better speak with an attorney. It will get quite expensive if you do the wrong thing and she decides she wants to be compensated for it. This is why everyone has said talk to a local landlord attorney and not answered your question directly. --98.175.xxx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 10:46 AM
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Well u served her with 30 day notice. Carry on. Next time, avoid girlfriends and neighbors. I also have no idea what you are doing and have same questions... --66.87.xx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 10:52 AM
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You're welcome Scott, but it seems you didn't read my response. I think you have a tenant by default. If you don't know your state's laws, ask an attorney. I'm not going to arm-chair quarter back a situation this sticky...and rest assured, it IS sticky.

I'll try again: you either violated your land lord's lease by moving in an unauthorized guest and you set her up as a co-occupant by giving her established residency. If you're a land lord, obviously no lease violation, but the established residency part still applies. EITHER WAY: she's got rights EVEN IF SHE'S MOVED OUT. In fact, it's clear to me she HASN'T even "moved out" yet. Physically, she may not be sleeping there, but if her STUFF is STILL THERE, she most likely has rights that you cannot just terminate because you're pissed off that she cheated on you. Therefore, you have to evict her, period. Most likely. A lawyer will know for sure. Time to pay the piper and get a real answer. Land lords get into trouble all the time making up the rules as they go along....do it right!

It doesn't matter what "she said." As any competent lawyer or judge will tell you, "if it's not in writing, it NEVER HAPPENED." She wold have to confess it in front of a judge (odds of that?)...or it's "he said/she said" and the judge will likely throw the book at you in light of the lack of evidence.

I hope that helps. Crazy mess, for sure. --173.19.xx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 11:10 AM
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Across the street is too close. Give notice and move yourself. Leave her stuff there. You are better without a cheating partner. --23.121.xx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 11:26 AM
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Sounds like a Country Song.

Did she take the Old Truck,

your Single Shotgun,

and the One Eyed Dog ?

--47.35.xx.xx




girlfriend moved out (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 11:27 AM
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Have you made arrangements with her to help her move her stuff across the street to her new residence? --108.69.xxx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 11:35 AM
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Sorry but Sid's response is spot on. She lived there for 10 months. In almost every state she is a legal tenant. Just having her mail sent to your address is sufficient to establish residency in many states and municipalities. That coupled with her belongings being there AND not having another known residence is sufficient to establish legal tenancy whether she paid rent or not.

Abandonment varies by area. In NC if a tenant has been gone for 30 days and removed their personal belongings and has not paid rent or provided services it is considered abandonment. You need to check YOUR state and local laws which will also instruct you on what your responsibilities are to ensure the person does not return.

By the way you did not mention if she is a signatory to the lease. --71.75.xx.xx




girlfriend moved out (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 1:14 PM
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Sounds like you're a tenant. As someone else suggested, you should consider moving if you can. For starters, why be around her and her new beau? Secondly, if she's not on the lease, the situation resolved itself. If it's a lease, negotiate with your LL and get out of there. --208.54.xx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 1:34 PM
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Just have her sign a release of possession and be done with it. The chances are all will be fine since she has moved on to greener pastures.

We are all LLs and think in LL terms. This is a love affair that has ended. --98.146.xxx.xx




girlfriend moved out (by scott [TN]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 1:43 PM
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Thanks for all the responses. I am leasing the house for purchase from a friend. Very informal but legal. He knew she was moving in with me. He didn't care. Originally she was to get her own place but we just let it ride. I believe she has re-assigned her mail to her new address. She has taken most of her belongings. I think I can get her to sign a release of possession of some sort. That will work. I just don't want her or her new bo on the property when I'm not there. For clear reason I don't trust either of them. Thanks again. --96.33.xxx.xx




girlfriend moved out (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 5:05 PM
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Scott ,I'm sorry things didn't work out, but better sooner than later. Like RB says makes a great Country and Western Song,how are you as a writer? If you put pen to paper,you might make a fortune. Pity Johnny Cash is not around anymore.His daughter still is."I hear the train a coming, a coming round the bend, I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when?"...........charlie...................................................." I'm stuck in Folsum Prison and"...................... --174.199.x.xx




girlfriend moved out (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2018 5:44 PM
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Scott, I'm not an attorney,but I'd say to talk to your friend and get out of that deal about buying the house,and move to the other side of town,to the sunny side of the street away from the straying cat.for your own peace of mind.......charlie.................. --174.199.x.xx




girlfriend moved out (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2018 4:36 AM
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She did u a favor! Stay put, your Neighbors are moving...they don't want to live across the street from you either. --66.87.xx.xxx




girlfriend moved out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 18, 2018 5:32 AM
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Romance and tenant laws don't have any crossing lines, refer to the lease. --76.188.xxx.xx




girlfriend moved out (by John [NY]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2018 3:12 PM
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I would start by bagging up her stuff and delivering it across the street. Change the lock, and your problems are solved. Must be tough to see a woman do that to yourself, but I guess not everyone is as nice or raised as well as we might be. --108.176.xxx.xxx





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