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Service Animal (by Sean [OR]) Dec 14, 2017 5:07 PM
       Service Animal (by DJ [VA]) Dec 14, 2017 5:33 PM
       Service Animal (by Gail K [GA]) Dec 14, 2017 6:08 PM
       Service Animal (by CJ [MO]) Dec 14, 2017 7:09 PM
       Service Animal (by opm [OR]) Dec 14, 2017 9:08 PM
       Service Animal (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Dec 14, 2017 9:20 PM
       Service Animal (by Vee [OH]) Dec 15, 2017 6:55 AM
       Service Animal (by CJ [MO]) Dec 15, 2017 11:17 AM
       Service Animal (by DJ [VA]) Dec 15, 2017 7:53 PM
       Service Animal (by cjo'h [CT]) Dec 15, 2017 10:53 PM
       Service Animal (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 17, 2017 11:32 AM


Service Animal (by Sean [OR]) Posted on: Dec 14, 2017 5:07 PM
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Tenant, after move in, said they are thinking of getting a service animal to help comfort them. I got the list of breeds that aren't allowed by my insurance company. Everything I read in the Oregon law seems to point to they can bring in any type of animal, plus I can't charge a fee or deposit for the animal.

Any tips? A potential comfort animal wasn't mentioned until after they moved in. Thanks for your insight.

--68.118.xx.xx




Service Animal (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Dec 14, 2017 5:33 PM
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They are getting a pet. A service animals isn't for comfort, that would be an ESA.

They are trying to con you and don't even know the right term to use. I would say this is getting off to a bad start. I recommend putting your foot down right now(do your own research on the topic so you are confident in your knowledge first) and put them on notice that trying to deceive or take advantage of their landlord is not acceptable - or they will try to get away with all sorts of misbehavior while they are there. --50.240.xx.xx




Service Animal (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Dec 14, 2017 6:08 PM
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Suggest they buy a big fluffy stuffed toy they can hug when they sit on the couch and watch TV at night.

Gail --71.203.xx.xx




Service Animal (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Dec 14, 2017 7:09 PM
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I want to learn from every post on this subject. Too confusing and too many wired excuses from prospects and tenants. --97.91.xxx.xxx




Service Animal (by opm [OR]) Posted on: Dec 14, 2017 9:08 PM
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Accommodation needed?

On a separate page, please let us know if you'd like an 'accommodation’.

Accommodation is a broad and complex area of renting and law.

Some clarification may be needed as the app is processed.

Tenants will need documents from their health care provider that prescribes one of the types, a Service animal or ESA or comfort animal for a specific person that will live here.

Not service animals: Any other species of animals, whether wild or domestic, trained or untrained, are not service animals for the purposes of this definition, since 2011.

Include with the app:

Letter from an accredited health care provider, that you are currently using in the last 12 months.

It should be from a provider who has an ongoing relationship with the patient. Not an animal registry!

A Vet certificate for shots is also needed, for any dog or cat.

Service Animal Defined:

There is no ‘national registry’ for service animals. There are companies that offer a document, that has no standing.

The ADA definition of a service animal was revised in 2011 to mean the following:

Service animal means any dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability.

You should have a document for the training.

The work or tasks performed by a service animal must be directly related to the owners/handler´s actual and documented disability.

You should provide proof of prescription from an accredited healthcare provider for the disability,

including a physical, sensory, psychiatric, intellectual, or other mental disability.

Examples of work or tasks include, but are not limited to, assisting individuals who are blind or have low vision with navigation and other tasks, alerting individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing to the presence of people or sounds,

providing non-violent protection or rescue work, pulling a wheelchair, assisting an individual during a seizure, alerting individuals to the presence of allergens, retrieving items such as medicine or the telephone,

providing physical support and assistance with balance and stability to individuals with mobility disabilities, and helping persons with psychiatric and neurological disabilities by preventing or interrupting impulsive or destructive behaviors.

A service dog is individually trained to perform tasks that reduce the disability of his owner.

Training typically takes 18-24 months.

Because of his advanced training, a service dog is considered medical equipment and is permitted to accompany his disabled owner to many places where pets are not permitted.

The crime deterrent effects of an animal´s presence and the provision of emotional support, well-being, comfort, or companionship

DO NOT constitute work or tasks for the purposes of that definition.

[For more information see U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Disability Rights Section: Service Animals, July 2015; also see

April 25, 2013 HUD position letter.]

--162.247.xx.xx




Service Animal (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Dec 14, 2017 9:20 PM
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Sean,

Let THEM choose their terminology and do not teach them what is right or wrong. Let them say too much and prove it's a fake.

SERVICE animals have no registry and HUD Fair Housing Law says they can only be dogs or in rare instances, miniature horses, and will have a LETTER OF MEDICAL NECESSITY from their doctor with a history of treating that patient, which expires every 365 days.

BRAD

--68.51.xx.xxx




Service Animal (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Dec 15, 2017 6:55 AM
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Read here as this comes up every other month, as Brad said let them do the talking and get the correct paperwork for them to fill out. Chances are they will trip over their own words, I have had only 1 get it right in last 3 years, I know the apartment manager where they moved from and it was all up-n-up from the beginning, tenants do not prescribe their own medication. --76.188.xxx.xx




Service Animal (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Dec 15, 2017 11:17 AM
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Can ESA be anything? what proof for ESA needed?

--97.91.xxx.xxx




Service Animal (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Dec 15, 2017 7:53 PM
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Yes, CJ - it appears an ESA can be pretty much anything. Still needs to be "prescribed" by a medical professional as explained above. And, unfortunately, many doctors seem willing to give patients just about whatever they want. However, just the requirement for documentation MAY stop some tenants who are just trying to get a pet without paying fees. (Really, what pet is NOT for emotional support?!) --68.105.xxx.xxx




Service Animal (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Dec 15, 2017 10:53 PM
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Sean,make a list of people you know who are good real estate agents and give it to them,time for them to buy their own house. Charlie.................................................................................... --174.199.xx.xx




Service Animal (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 17, 2017 11:32 AM
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I almost agree with everything that Brad said.......

HUD standard don't limit a SA to mini horses and dogs, it is the ADA that limits them those two animal types since you are dealing with the public in general. HUD and Fair Housing doesn't limit what can be a service animal. I want my tenants to have a dinosaur service animal.

All my tenants MUST have to have renters insurance so it is a non- issue for me. I pay for it as part of my move in special. I just let the tenant know that the evil insurance company may drop them because they don't appreciate the T-Rex like the LL and tenant do. And without renter's insurance, I need to make a business decision. --24.101.xxx.xxx





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