Tenant move in early (by Betty [CA]) Nov 30, 2017 10:43 AM|
Tenant move in early (by razorback_tim [AR]) Nov 30, 2017 10:50 AM
Tenant move in early (by Moshe [CA]) Nov 30, 2017 10:52 AM
Tenant move in early (by David [NC]) Nov 30, 2017 10:55 AM
Tenant move in early (by Jim in O C [CA]) Nov 30, 2017 11:00 AM
Tenant move in early (by Ken [NY]) Nov 30, 2017 11:03 AM
Tenant move in early (by RB [MI]) Nov 30, 2017 11:07 AM
Tenant move in early (by CPAK [TN]) Nov 30, 2017 11:21 AM
Tenant move in early (by Rangor [TN]) Nov 30, 2017 11:22 AM
Tenant move in early (by S i d [MO]) Nov 30, 2017 11:24 AM
Tenant move in early (by Opinionated [NC]) Nov 30, 2017 11:36 AM
Tenant move in early (by Julie [KS]) Nov 30, 2017 11:51 AM
Tenant move in early (by Salernitana [CA]) Nov 30, 2017 12:18 PM
Tenant move in early (by LindaJ [NY]) Nov 30, 2017 12:25 PM
Tenant move in early (by plenty [MO]) Nov 30, 2017 12:27 PM
Tenant move in early (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Nov 30, 2017 1:31 PM
Tenant move in early (by Busy, busy, busy [WI]) Nov 30, 2017 1:54 PM
Tenant move in early (by Busy, et cetera [WI]) Nov 30, 2017 1:56 PM
Tenant move in early (by don [PA]) Nov 30, 2017 2:24 PM
Tenant move in early (by Betty [CA]) Nov 30, 2017 2:50 PM
Tenant move in early (by Vee [OH]) Nov 30, 2017 2:54 PM
Tenant move in early (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Nov 30, 2017 3:47 PM
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Tenant move in early (by Sue [MI]) Nov 30, 2017 4:46 PM
Tenant move in early (by RR78 [VA]) Nov 30, 2017 5:33 PM
Tenant move in early (by AllyM [NJ]) Nov 30, 2017 6:27 PM
Tenant move in early (by cjo'h [CT]) Nov 30, 2017 9:33 PM
Tenant move in early (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 30, 2017 11:06 PM
Tenant move in early (by myob [GA]) Dec 1, 2017 10:56 AM
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Tenant move in early (by Betty [CA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 10:43 AM
New tenant signed contract to move in on December 1st 2017. Contract signed and money exchanged. She now calls me to ask if she can move in later in the day on Thursday (day before), because she already rented a moving truck and doesn't want to wait until Friday. I said no because she signed her move in day as Friday, I was in a meeting and informed her I will call her back after the meeting. She said she would wait outside the rental home until I called her back. I informed her not to come and waste her time and to continue to pack her things for move- in day Friday. If she does show up, should I call the police and have her removed from the property, charge her the extra day or just tell her I will return her money and cancel contract. I have two other families who are interested in moving Friday or Saturday. This is a 3 bedroom,quarter acre property and has been remodeled and ready for move in. Appreciate recommendations from Landlords (new to Landlording) Thanks
Tenant move in early (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 10:50 AM
I have no problem with people moving in a little early if the property is vacant and ready. It gets the utility bills off of me and gets rid of an empty house. As long as itís only a day or two or a weekend I usually donít charge them rent for those days. I wasnít going to get paid for them anyway.
Now that being said, these things are usually arranged in advance - not with the tenant sitting outside the rental home expecting me to drop everything and come give them the keys. Are you sure sheís not being evicted from her current residence? --166.137.xxx.xx
Tenant move in early (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 10:52 AM
What difference does it make to you? If none, then why not accommodate her request and let her move in a day early? The question of an extra days rent is easily resolved, charge her or be generous.
If it does make a difference to you, then tell her so and decline the transfer of possession until the contracted time.
Since you (both of you) have a contract, you cannot unilaterally cancel the contract, return money or not.
Tenant move in early (by David [NC]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 10:55 AM
I let my last tenant move in a week early. It was empty, I got my money and the sooner the utilities are switched the better for me. don't be a stickler for the little things --71.50.xxx.xx
Tenant move in early (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:00 AM
Why are you being such a hard a*%?
I will let a tenant move in 1 or 2 days early if the property is vacant and I don't charge them. Of course all monies must be paid by certified funds. --75.22.xx.xx
Tenant move in early (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:03 AM
I would let her move in today,if she has a little extra time to move she is less likely to cause damage moving in since they can take a little more time and be careful,utilities out of your name a little quicker,1 less day of someone breaking in.Gives her a good feeling of the new landlord is helping her a little bit and will help a little if you can't get a repair done immediately in the future,as it stands now she just thinks you are a mean SOB. --72.231.xxx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:07 AM
Extreme example of Landlord is in Charge.
Yes, call the Police and have Her removed
from the Property. (as you suggested)
Landlording at its finest. --71.13.xx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by CPAK [TN]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:21 AM
Not a good way to start your tenant/landlord relationship by having her removed by police. Don't be so mean, it's only a day. --107.77.xx.xx
Tenant move in early (by Rangor [TN]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:22 AM
Wow...maybe my tenants AREN'T making up some of stories about landlords they have had to endure in the past. --12.251.xxx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:24 AM
I too want to know the reason why you don't want her to move in. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't...that's up to you. Just curious why not?
I am more concerned by her attitude that her lack of planning and not wanting to pay an extra day on the moving truck makes this an emergency where she expects you to drop everything and make her happy without any notice. THAT to me is more important than whether or not she moves in a day early.
Do what razorback suggests and recheck her background/eviction report. I've had tenants who were approved initially get their approval revoked when I discovered their land lord filed for eviction a few days after I did the back ground check. Lazy land lord sometimes wait 2-4 weeks to file. I never sign a lease or accept rent money until move-in day, but I do use "Holding Fee" agreements where I take a fee in exchange to hold a unit vacant. Part of that deal is the must not leave owing their current land lord any money and is fully contingent upon re-verification of any previously checked reference at any time prior to move-in. I always verify the morning of move-in day so the tenant isn't shafting them last minute.
Moshe may be right that you're stuck in a contract, but I would say it depends on the conditions under which the contract was approved. My application states that the application becomes part of the lease agreement, and any false, incomplete or misleading information is grounds for lease termination. --173.19.xx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by Opinionated [NC]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:36 AM
My inclination is to give the tenant everything I possibly can that does not cost me extra, now or in the future, in time or money. --66.226.xx.xx
Tenant move in early (by Julie [KS]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:51 AM
Cheese & rice......if I have a property that is available for early occupancy I even send out an email letting the new tenants know. Attached with an invoice with the pro-rated rent that would be due in addition to the first month's rent. A little extra rent money in my pocket & utilities out of my name is a double win.
Maybe she works tomorrow & the week-end & is off today. Maybe she was ahead of schedule with her packing & loading out at her old place. There could be ample reasons she'd like in a day early; not all of them nefarious.
Good gravy I'm wound tight but never have I called PD on a tenant who was waiting at the curb hoping to move in early. --63.245.xxx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 12:18 PM
I too agree with the posts. Is it an issue about money or is it that the tenant is asserting power that doesn't make you feel comfortable? --107.142.xxx.xx
Tenant move in early (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 12:25 PM
Contract signed, money exchanged, I would have no problem letting a tenant in a few days early unless I was scrambling to get things done, then I need to be there. If it is vacant, I would rather they move in sooner, and if it is convenient a day early, fine. I certainly would not call the police, that would really start the relationship off bad. And since she has a contract and paid the money, you can't cancel for something little like asking to move in early. Or even being on the public street a day early.
Being a new landlord, you do have to understand you are going to be in a relationship with this tenant for a year or more. It is your house, but it will be their home. If you give a little for things that really don't matter, then you might get a little later. What difference does it make you have other people to move in Friday? --96.236.xx.xx
Tenant move in early (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 12:27 PM
I think it's a reasonable request. If you have ever moved you know that it's quite a process. Try and make it easy as possible. Yes. Tell her yes if utilites are in her name starting today and she pays you a one day move in fee equal to rent divided by 30. Calling police? Really? Brutal in my book. Unreasonable too. Really a bad way to start off. You have no money from the other people and they could tell you Forget it if you offered them the property. Good grief, life is too short --66.87.xx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 1:31 PM
I always hand the keys over after the rental agreement is signed and money has changed hands. Saves me an extra trip, and it is no skin off of my nose. Moving is stressful enough. I can 100% understand why she would want to get started. I will give 1-2 days as "free". For mid month move ins, just prorate the second month --98.146.xxx.xx
Tenant move in early (by Busy, busy, busy [WI]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 1:54 PM
I'm slightly concerned about how you'd mentioned her wording, but, then I considered the inclination to call police because she's parked out front.
My thinking, as I try to put myself in her shoes is: she rented the truck early thinking it would take a whole day to load, and a whole other day to unload. But, because she has been PREPARING for the move, it went so much more smoothly than she anticipated (I'm former military, I KNOW how to prep for a move., lol!)
She's realized that since it took much less time to load, she can SAVE money by returning the truck early. Then she'll have more time to move the rest of the small stuff and clean the last place to get full security back.
A tenant who PREPARES and SAVES makes me do my happy dance.
Now, if she's being nasty or pushy....for instance, if you just CANNOT get there with keys, she should accept that kindly. --172.56.xx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by Busy, et cetera [WI]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 1:56 PM
Meant to say AGREE WITH Ken's answer. --172.56.xx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by don [PA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 2:24 PM
Why would you not let her move in early?? Just to be a hard-ass? Down the line you may be in a jam and need an extra day to get something resolved, and she will remember what a hard-ass you were for no reason and will be a hard-ass right back. --70.90.xx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by Betty [CA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 2:50 PM
Thank you all for your reply to my question. The reason she asked to move in early is her previous landlord died and the apartment complex was sold - the new landlord gave her only 30 days to move and did not want pets (she has a cat-no claws) also rent control and she has lived there for 20 years. So now her mother, son 27 year old and cat are moving together - all backgrounds/credit check done on all three new tenants and verified for evictions (none) my cousin paralegal she double checked for me).I called to cancel utilities and will be in her name on Monday so she has utilities for weekend. She is a Hospice Nurse 34 years and this is a new move for her after 20 years. She called me and is a bit overwhelmed, moving her mother from apartment in San Diego to Los Angeles on weekend and she wants to move her stuff in before leaving for San Diego with her son. I have a cleaning crew coming in today and should be done by 5:30 pm. I will let her move in after 6 pm and sign for the keys and so she is ready to leave Saturday morning to bring her mother from San Diego. Thank you all for your feedback great input. --108.184.xxx.xx
Tenant move in early (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 2:54 PM
If the certified funds have cleared the bank (Never Ever take checks for first month anything, only money orders or cash - even bank checks can go sour with 1 phone call from the person who got them) I would allow this - be sure you have contacted the utility companies and have everything turned off from your name, sometimes I hand the phone to the new person and let them give the information needed to prevent a whole turn-off - turn-on situation, tenants have a habit of never switching it to their names when they sense a new landlord and you get stuck with enormous bill which you have no way to collect. Study your state and local tenant rules so you know how to respond to tenant annoying demands, legal help is the highest hourly rate we pay. --76.188.xxx.xx
Tenant move in early (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 3:47 PM
If the property is ready for occupancy and they aren't scheduled to move whether it's 2 days or two weeks I'll let them move in. As long as I have their funds, their proof of ins and the utilities are transferred prior to moving anything in I really don't care. What is the benefit to me having the property sit vacant?
I've always found tenants to be very appreciative especially when the move-in would have required them to take time off from work.
And as so many others have already said - why pay for utilities for a vacant property if you can have the tenant pay.
Tenant move in early (by rentON [PA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 4:08 PM
I would charge the prorated rent amount for any extra early days. Please let me know what hotel let's you stay any nights for free?
Very few tenants will remember any good will you may provide. Remember this when you do the move out inspection for this property.
Good luck. --73.236.xxx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 4:15 PM
WOW!!!........just wow, that's all I got --166.137.xxx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by Sue [MI]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 4:46 PM
I have no problem with them moving in a day early if it is convenient for me and the utilities are already proven to be in their name for the next day. Why make enemies before they even move in - good will goes a long way. --97.95.xxx.xx
Tenant move in early (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 5:33 PM
Dont save any space on your mantel for a landlord of the year award. --73.177.xxx.xx
Tenant move in early (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 6:27 PM
That would scare me too that maybe the tenant was going to break into the building if I didn't come and let her in. I'm glad you resolved the issue. You have enough to worry about at your job without some tenant being pushy and aggressive. --73.33.xxx.xxx
Tenant move in early (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 9:33 PM
Betty, don't know if you are cut out to be alandlord.Kinda dubious.charlie................................................ --174.199.x.xxx
Tenant move in early (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 11:06 PM
Thank you for posting. Yours is a legitimate question and this is a place you can ask.
We're not in the HOUSE business, we're in the PEOPLE business and people's lives are messy. Things seldom go smoothly. IT's our job to protect our business, plan for situations, and help the people fit into the system.
Consider allowing the new resident to unload their belongings in the garage or house and your crew cleans around them.
I STRONGLY suggest you get training IMMEDIATELY! Start with 2 books from this site: Jeffrey Taylor's Landlord Kit and Mike Butler's Landlording On Autopilot. Mikes is an easy read and will help you at this stage. Jeffrey's is a book of forms and checklists as a resource.
Now, I must tell you I have concerns about your new folks. When their stories are mixed up, Moms, sons, running here and there, her stuff already in a truck before the last day of the month, LL died, new owner...these are all caution flags. They all sound good on the surface and push the LL's sympathy buttons to cover up a problem.
Did you pull a credit report? TALK to her current LL? (they often lie to get rid of baddies. They MIGHT tell you the truth since she's already out)
Do NOT give her the keys without certified funds - cash or bank teller check only. NO PERSONAL CHECKS.
If she forces a personal check that's your sign it's gonna bounce! In your state it's hard to get someone out of your rental. Be slow and cautious to let them in.
Best of luck! Keep us posted.
Tenant move in early (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 10:56 AM
thought provoking comments by many experienced LL's. made me search my heart for a right answer for a newbie. After years of being hardened by this business (not just me either) giving some new LL starter advise isn't that easy.
First I would say as long as you haven't planned anything for yourself-- party or trip than make yourself available to early signing. It's one day rent and does it make or break you-- let's hope not. Starting off as new and a new tenant make your upcoming holidays better but not counting on every penny you can get from the rental. They'll be time enough for that when you try to collect past due amounts. For now ease into LL'ing.
Police? if you even consider that and it's not even the first day-- you better get out of this business- right now. You will not make it. --99.103.xxx.xxx
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