Do you Carry a Gun? (by newbie landlord [WA]) Apr 22, 2017 6:47 PM|
Do you Carry a Gun? (by NE [PA]) Apr 22, 2017 7:04 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Ken [NY]) Apr 22, 2017 7:38 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by CDM [CA]) Apr 22, 2017 7:44 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by DJ [VA]) Apr 22, 2017 7:52 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by JR [ME]) Apr 22, 2017 7:56 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Michael [IA]) Apr 22, 2017 7:58 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by TIM [IN]) Apr 22, 2017 8:46 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 22, 2017 9:29 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 22, 2017 9:54 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 22, 2017 10:08 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 22, 2017 10:50 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 23, 2017 12:43 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by WMH [NC]) Apr 23, 2017 4:28 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by JR [ME]) Apr 23, 2017 4:47 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by David [MI]) Apr 23, 2017 5:19 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Kurtis [ME]) Apr 23, 2017 5:42 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by MJ [OH]) Apr 23, 2017 5:57 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 23, 2017 6:09 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Johnny B. [MA]) Apr 23, 2017 9:32 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2017 10:19 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 23, 2017 10:19 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Stephen [ON]) Apr 23, 2017 10:20 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2017 11:00 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by gevans [SC]) Apr 23, 2017 11:10 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Mike45 [NV]) Apr 23, 2017 1:00 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Dan [IL]) Apr 23, 2017 2:04 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 23, 2017 2:45 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Mickie [OH]) Apr 23, 2017 3:08 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Smokowna [MD]) Apr 23, 2017 4:27 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Smokowna [MD]) Apr 23, 2017 4:37 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by JR [ME]) Apr 23, 2017 6:11 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Mickie [OH]) Apr 23, 2017 7:20 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Janet [KY]) Apr 23, 2017 10:42 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 24, 2017 4:35 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by GKarl [PA]) Apr 24, 2017 5:08 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by WMH [NC]) Apr 24, 2017 6:35 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Doogie [KS]) Apr 24, 2017 7:57 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by gevans [SC]) Apr 24, 2017 10:46 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 24, 2017 1:11 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by WMH [NC]) Apr 24, 2017 1:25 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Roy [AL]) Apr 24, 2017 5:45 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Apr 25, 2017 6:11 AM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Chris [CT]) Apr 25, 2017 5:08 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by newbie landlord [WA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 6:47 PM
Ive asked this before, wondering how it is now for others a few years.
Do you carry a gun with you when you go to them for repairs, or for anything at all? Do you keep it on you or do you leave it in the vehicle?
Do you Carry a Gun? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 7:04 PM
With existing tenants not usually.
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 7:38 PM
Always in my pocket,a deal with a lot of people who are a little crazy,both tenants and sellers under a lot of pressure. --24.25.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by CDM [CA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 7:44 PM
No, never. --24.130.xx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 7:52 PM
Always at work (Security officer). Sometimes to a rental or property for sale. Depends on who's there, where it is & why I'm going. Concealed, though --97.32.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 7:56 PM
No. If I really felt I had to carry a gun to be safe in my landlording activities, I'd sell all my properties tomorrow. --98.13.xx.x
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Michael [IA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 7:58 PM
Do you Carry a Gun? (by TIM [IN]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 8:46 PM
Nope. If you need it, you have bought in the wrong market... --67.143.xxx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 9:29 PM
Here in Los Angeles California, no one can get a permit to carry a gun, anymore. Laws were put in place to make most type of weapons illegal to own. No more open carry. If you use a gun to protect yourself or family, then Insurance Company's will no longer cover you for liability -- if you used a gun under any circumstances.
Do you Carry a Gun? (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 9:54 PM
No,I don't. But a friend of mine who was a police detective,wouldn't even go to church without it............Charlie..................... --174.199.xx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 10:08 PM
Carry a GUN?? Oh no, never. Guns are dangerous. Only the government should have guns, cause they are here to take care of you. Bad people will leave you alone if you are nice.
Sorry, couldn't help myself. :)
Yes, I carry a gun. Sometimes more than one. I never leave home without three things. My sidearm, my spectacles, and my teeth, in that order. :)
If you ARE going to carry a gun, ALWAYS carry, and carry ENOUGH gun, and get trained well beyond a ccw or basic pistol class.
Do you Carry a Gun? (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2017 10:50 PM
How can you tell who is a landlord at a gun show?
She's the one with paint on her Glock. :)
Charlie - ESPECIALLY carry to church! God gave you guns for a reason. One of the things my company does is threat assessment and security force training for churches.
I have to agree with JR and TIM. But some folks have no choice. And in many places crime can occur anywhere. Heck my car was broken into twice while parked in front of my million dollar beach house in SoCal. Last night there was a knife fight at WalMart in our town. Two months ago three kids gunned down a guy riding a bike, FOR FUN. And this is in a rural county!
The OP asked about carrying during repairs. Yes - here's why. Ex Iraq vet in Palmdale, CA some years ago worked as a cable installer. Was at a customers house, some family member off his meds whigged out and buried a hammer in the guys head.
Saw the same thing personally on a construction site in the 80's, two guys arguing over a radio - one sank a 28oz Estwing in the others head.
You DO-NOT-KNOW who is nutz. You may not get advance warning of a threat.
I feel safe in two places. My walled hilltop fortress, and our vacation condo at 9,600 feet in the rockies, only reachable by a gondola or thru two guard gates and a concierge.
Landlord primary threats are:
Showings - anything can happen
Tenant issues, evictions - can get emotional / violent
Trespassing - squatting - theft - drugs
Robbery - of rents or just because you are a good target
Assault - sexual assault
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 12:43 AM
Years ago the Police were on tactical alert which meant they won't answer any calls, even 911 emergency's.
I get a call from my tenants in an 8 unit property that a gang has set up shop in the parking area (back yard) and are having a drug party. Anytime they run out of food or drinks, they knock down a tenants door and clean them out. Tenants can't leave, the car exit is blocked.
I call the police they refuse to help.
I put on my level-three bullet proof vest, strap on my UZI, Glock and other weapons. I drive to my property and see what's going on. I give one more call to the police, but this time tell them to bring around 40 body bags -- there are that many gang members.
The police agree to come out and break up the party. No arrests. Within 20 minutes the gang comes back. So I ask them to leave and are forest to use some force -- shooting some rounds into the ground. The gang call the police for help and the police try to arrest me, the owner for protecting my property. How dare I use a gun to protect myself and my tenants -- should let the gang have their way.......
Do you Carry a Gun? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 4:28 AM
I have my CCW and a gun, but I do not carry because, as LTD has advised, I am not sufficiently trained in the quick use of my weapon to make it a safe thing. Also my gun sucks and tends to jam. I keep saying I am going to buy a new one and don't.
I need to go take some private lessons! Wish LTD lived near me. --173.22.xx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 4:47 AM
LTD, i have nothing against guns. Maine has a relatively high gun ownership rate, permissive carry laws, and a near zero gun crime rate. I own rifles and shotguns and enjoy hunting.
But as I said, if I felt I HAD to carry a gun just to be safe in going about my day to day business, I would get into mother line of business. If Robert J.s story as related is anywhere near the truth, it is a wonder he wasn't killed by the "gang" or the police.
Although I choose not to carry a gun, that does not mean I am mot concerned abou my and my family's personal safety. While crazies and criminals are everywhere, they are not spread out equidistantly throughout the nation. The first thing one can do to protect oneself from crime is to stay away from high risk situations. --98.13.xx.x
Do you Carry a Gun? (by David [MI]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 5:19 AM
for those of you that carry at your properties when applicants or tenants there, do you carry open, or concealed? If you concealed , do you try hard to make it impossible to tell you concealed? --50.4.xxx.x
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Kurtis [ME]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 5:42 AM
All the time. Have for 20 years now. Carry in open on my belt with a case called sneaky Pete holster. Looks like a cell phone case and no one even has a clue. We do real estate as well and you just don't know who you might meet. --69.130.xx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by MJ [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 5:57 AM
Yes, I carry everywhere I go. I have a security lockbox in my vehicle if I have to go in a place I cannot take my weapon. IE: police station. To answer David's question, I wear a pancake holster on my hip. It conceals well, but I don't go out of my way to hide it. I'm legal and I have no problem with people knowing that I carry. I've never had to pull my weapon from the holster but I will if I need to. However, I have been in places where I was glad I was carrying. For WMH, get a gun you are comfortable with and doesn't jam. I love my glock, everyone has their preference, try going to a good gun store and see if they will let you try different guns. The one I went to did and it was a great experience for me. I chose mine because it's easy to field strip and doesn't jam much. --174.105.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 6:09 AM
No I leave it in the broken dishwasher in case someone breaks in. I stay out of everyone's way otherwise though I have had two close calls. One was a drug deal going on by my curb and one of them asked the other if he should "pop" me. The other replied no, we don't shoot people for gardening. I actually got all their license numbers, called the police a lot and they all got arrested in their drug den two blocks from here on the other side of the city line.
The other episode was when three middle eastern guys came up on me with fists. One of them said "There's one". The other one then said "That's a lady". and they backed of. This was near the high school and I suspect that one of their little scarf wearing sisters was being harassed by high school boys in LL Bean parkas with hoods because that's what I was wearing and it must have made me look like a young boy. Now I only wear pink.
NJ is trying to put some folks in prison for just driving through the state with their legal guns. --73.33.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 9:32 AM
I carry, but not because I'm a landlord. I'd carry regardless. Message to JR [ME] - simply avoiding high risk situations isn't good enough anymore. Do you remember about a year ago an old lady was stabbed to death in a Saco, Maine supermarket? It was a completely random and unprovoked attack. The attacker was transgender and was having a bad day, so decided to kill someone. Like the boy scouts say, BE PREPARED! --24.147.xx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 10:19 AM
David, I carry concealed. You wouldn't know I had it.
Although carrying open may be legal in many places, it generally isn't socially acceptable. That's fine. No need to show off with it.
I am pro gun and don't consider the subject open for discussion. I will say this though, I had a prospective tenant come to look at a unit with a .45 on his hip. Right out in the open.
That's odd even for this area. I wasn't sure how I felt about it. I don't care that he had a handgun, I don't care if he has 1.000 guns, but my question is what's the point of showing it, especially in a setting like that. --50.32.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 10:19 AM
Here it is illegal to carry any sort handgun as there are gun control laws. If one gets a permit it is allowed to carry to and from gun range. Rifles are generally used in rural areas where many have a rifle. I never carry a lot of cash around with me so will minimize loss. In many of the larger urban areas most of gun crime is connected with illegal drugs where the drug dealers get handguns illegally. --184.147.xx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Stephen [ON]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 10:20 AM
When I lived in the US I owned a SIG, never took it out, just had it at the house in case. Quite what I would have done with it I don't know as it was kept in a locked gun safe. Now I am in Canada there is at least one advantage to being a landlord in Ontario. I am not armed, but they are not either. I rent decent units in middle class areas and generally to solidly middle class people. Some of them may have a temper, but they can't express it with firearms. I appreciate the arguments on either side but I just feel safer knowing that weapons are hard to find here and that my tenants and prospective tenants are very unlikely to have access to them. The statistics say I am safer that way. --174.91.xxx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 11:00 AM
I feel sorry for the Canadian landlord's and the big city landlord's. Not just for gun rights, but just rights in general. --50.32.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 11:10 AM
We are in a very pro gun state. Most of my tenants own and carry guns.
It is not polite to ask someone down here if they are carrying. It would be embarrassing to them if they were not. --74.222.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 1:00 PM
Do you have any reason to believe that any answers to this extremely personal question will be honest? You might as well ask how much sex we have, or if we are committing adultery. The question is rude and invasive. In my never humble opinion.
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Dan [IL]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 2:04 PM
No, I don't own any guns ... yet! I had't done so, in large part, because Chicago had the decades-old handgun ban. Illinois itself was the last state with an unqualified CCW ban, and that law would still be on the books today if it wasn't for a federal appellate court decision a couple of years' back. I had survived with just utilizing my wits, wisdom and resolve. Even so, I've had my own share of close calls. Here's one similar with Robert J's story: The large apartment building we used to own had a rear entrance that begins as an enclosed 12 foot long passageway before leading out to an open porch courtyard. This passageway was like a wind tunnel in the wintertime. To correct this, we installed self-closing see-through doors in the doorways on each end. Except for the extremely cold months, these doors were always kept open with hooking latches. As I approached the passageway from the alley end one warm spring day, I was surprised to find the outside door closed. I opened it to discover the passageway was occupied by the neighborhood gangbangers - none whom lived there. They were conducting a powwow meeting. They knew I was, and I knew exactly who they were. I immediately stared down all of them with a steely-eyed glare, and with scowling face and with a quick sideways nudge of my head, I tersely shouted, "OUT!!" I stepped aside, and then watched as all eight of them walked out single-file, with most giving me back their own scowling silent glare as they walked past me (Who knows what could have happened then ... I was unarmed, and out-numbered 8:1 !!). I waited until they were approximately 20 feet away before I resumed going back inside. When I turned my back to re-secure the passageway door open once again, one of them threw a fastball pitch with an aluminum Coca Cola soda can that missed my head by inches. As it struck the door and splattered it and myself with the soda residue, I quickly turned to face them, angrily shook my fist and cursed at them to leave as I threatened to call the police. **They quickly dispersed.**
The Bottom Line: While the neighborhood and my general operating area have significantly improved, the laws of civility and mutual respect have degraded to a point where I don't believe now I'd survive that similar encounter again today. I'm starting things off with a FOID registration soon. --66.87.xx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 2:45 PM
^^^ LOL Points to Mike. As for my sex life, 14 years with my spouse, why do you think I'm online... ;)
For JR - We have a saying. "Don't go stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things, and you probably won't need a gun." The keyword is "probably." The gun is for those unimaginable situations where no other tool will suffice and if you don't have one RFN you are going to get dead.
For WMH, don't carry or rely on a gun that jams. You won't go wrong with a Glock, but there are plenty other options. I recommend high capacity, mid size, 9mm as an all around option. Try to go to a range and try different guns.
I agree with NE. When we see some openly carrying a gun we are socially conditioned to look for a badge or uniform. "Oh it's a cop or guard, they aren't a threat to me." We see someone else and we wonder, "Why do they need a gun?" The only times I ever open carry are in uniform during class or going to the range and stopping for gas or something. --47.216.xx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 3:08 PM
Sure do. You need to borrow one? --174.233.x.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 4:27 PM
Brad nailer --74.96.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 4:37 PM
Wait, I've misunderstood the question, but my Toyota has 357 thousand on it. --74.96.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 6:11 PM
We could go on about this all night. Johnny B. The supermarket victim in Saco was a frail elderly woman. The perp snuck up behind her and slit her throat. I highly doubt that a sidearm would have been helpful to her. The perp was tackled and subdued by two unarmed men and held for police.
My abilty to successfully fend off an attacker with a gun has to be balanced with the risk of me or one of my family being one of the 15,000 Americans injured or 500 killed in accidental shootings. Best of luck to all you pistol packing Petes and Momas --98.13.xx.x
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 7:20 PM
I knew an 81 yr old man how haD a little grocery store. Got mugged on his way to his car one evening in a little town we both lived in. He didnít have any money on him and the thug beat him pretty badly. After he got out of the hospital and went back to work he began carrying. There was no concealed carry then. The cops arrested his because "he was a danger to himself and others". It was total burocratic bull. He was a Korean vet. He worked every day in his store running his business and he was totally of sound mind. Could he have shot someone? I got a feeling he probably wouldn't had a problem with the next mugger. --174.233.x.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Janet [KY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2017 10:42 PM
No. Carry my mace during showings and once
when I had a crazy school teacher living in the
rental who threw fits every time I came to mow
the yard. I finally had to quit mowing and hired
a man who wore a gun on his hip to go mow the yard
for my own safety. --74.236.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2017 4:35 AM
9 MM normally
But things are different out here in the sticks.
We can leave our vehicles running when we walk into a store to get a cup of coffee. No one touches the 30.06 that is in the gun rack.
I think that is frowned upon in the city --24.239.xx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by GKarl [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2017 5:08 AM
Never owned a gun. I've thought about it occasionally as it's easy to get one here in PA,but I've never acted on it. I've had no close calls where I felt i needed one. I'm a big guy with an imposing presence and that's usually enough to control situations. I'll echo what others have said, if I fear for my life in a rental, I have the wrong one. --172.56.xx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2017 6:35 AM
Open carry bothers me, because it tells me the person didn't bother to apply or, worse, didn't qualify for a concealed carry permit. Yes, it's their legal right to do it - I find it socially unacceptable and intimidating. --173.22.xx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2017 7:57 AM
Depends on the situation. I never open carry though. It's legal here to do so, but I don't like the idea. If I'm in a gas station or something and someone comes in to rob the place, I believe I'd be the first target. Eliminate the visible threat first, so if they see your gun, you're gone. If they can't see the gun, you can go with the flow for a while until you have a chance to pull it. May not even need to, who knows? --98.175.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2017 10:46 AM
WMH, all our police and military open carry...
I say it depends on the situation. We have one LL who collects from the slum district at 0600 Saturday mornings some times... wearing shorts and a muscle shirt... along with a .44 magnum strapped to his hip. He's an imposing site, and also a police chief. LOL I'm sure he open carries for the effect. --74.222.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2017 1:11 PM
I really like the brad nailer idea. --73.33.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2017 1:25 PM
I expect the police and military to open carry, Gevans. It's pretty much in their job description...
Random guy in line at Walmart? No. --173.22.xx.xx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2017 5:45 PM
I do not carry a gun for the same reasons JR (ME) gave. Plus, I would feel self-conscious or paranoid that something bad was going to happen if I carried a gun around with me, especially in open view. --68.63.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2017 6:11 AM
No, dont have one, never did.
Its illegal to carry guns here.
But none the less there are many shootings here frequently. --70.29.xxx.xxx
Do you Carry a Gun? (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2017 5:08 PM
I own lots of guns, used to carry as well than I stopped.
Firstly if you are going to carry you need to carry enough gun, pistols frankly suck but since you can't carry a proper rifle like an AR or something you'd want to get into a gunfight with...your limited. If you carry, carry a gun to win, which IMHO is a full size pistol with a full capacity mag, and lots and lots of training. A pocket .38 with no training, meh throw it at them its a brick.
I find full size pistols very uncomfortable to carry. Glocks are chunky and sorry I just don't like them. I might get the new HK Vp9 and give it a go.
Secondly, having traveled and lived a bit I have never found myself in a place where a pistol would have helped. Using your head is your best bet.
Thirdly I invest in my town, my financial future is tied to its success. If the area deteriorates to a level where I need a gun to check my properties...looking at you Fair Haven...I would sell because my crap would be worthless so why bother?
Why do I bring up the 3rd world area known as Fair Haven in New Haven? My dads friend was shot at while loading a machine in that wonderful city. He was loading a backhoe onto the trailer and some low life dumped a mag from probably a Mac 10 in his direction, luckly a machine makes a really good bullet stop so he was Ok.
In that situation unless he had an AR15 and started shooting out the windows in the apartment building what do you do? Perp never caught of course no one saw anything in the building. If he had a Glock 17 he wouldn't have been able to do much with it?