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Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Mar 26, 2017 8:28 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Janet [KY]) Mar 26, 2017 9:08 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 26, 2017 9:24 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Mar 26, 2017 9:58 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by jawja [GA]) Mar 26, 2017 10:16 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Mar 26, 2017 10:17 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by jawja [GA]) Mar 26, 2017 10:26 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Mar 27, 2017 4:14 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by myob [GA]) Mar 27, 2017 4:39 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Vee [OH]) Mar 27, 2017 5:56 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by RB [MI]) Mar 27, 2017 6:09 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Mar 27, 2017 9:23 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Mar 27, 2017 9:23 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Mar 27, 2017 11:05 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by jawja [GA]) Mar 27, 2017 1:18 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by jawja [GA]) Mar 27, 2017 1:19 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Barbara [VA]) Mar 27, 2017 2:02 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Barb [MO]) Mar 27, 2017 2:08 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by WMH [NC]) Mar 27, 2017 2:12 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by myob [GA]) Mar 27, 2017 3:22 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Barbara [VA]) Mar 27, 2017 3:57 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Mar 27, 2017 4:37 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Mar 27, 2017 6:04 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 28, 2017 5:17 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by don [PA]) Mar 28, 2017 9:29 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Britt [NC]) Mar 28, 2017 12:35 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by MYOB [GA]) Mar 28, 2017 1:15 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Mar 28, 2017 1:16 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Mar 28, 2017 1:16 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Bob [GA]) Mar 30, 2017 3:57 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Elisabeth [CA]) Jan 15, 2019 1:05 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Nellie [ME]) Jan 15, 2019 1:48 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jan 15, 2019 9:59 PM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by WMH [NC]) Jan 16, 2019 3:07 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Gayle Warnick [CA]) Jan 17, 2019 1:22 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Gayle Warnick [CA]) Jan 17, 2019 1:23 AM
       Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Gayle Warnick [CA]) Jan 17, 2019 1:23 AM

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Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2017 8:28 PM
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A friend who is out of town is finally having the sheriff tomorrow to finalize an eviction - awful, "professional" tenants have dragged her through the ringer.

Another friend and I are her designated representatives and need to get into the house.

I have one key to back doorknobs, but NOT to the deadbolts. We think tenants changed locks (cannot prove, but have checked the key I have)

We are meeting the sheriff and movers in the morning and do not have keys to any door or garage door openers.

Do not know what to expect -

Will sheriff allow us to drill out the locks? if so, HOW do we drill out a deadbolt?

If we can just remove the deadbolt from the back door, we can then get inside and remove other locks.

i have a handyman meeting me - didn't call a locksmith in time.

After we get inside, I have new locksets for all doors and he will change them.

Both I and another friend have tried to help and shown up numerous times to meet the tenants and get keys, and they have been no shows every time. I am pretty sure they have moved out, but they refuse to hand over keys. --50.194.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Janet [KY]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2017 9:08 PM
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To remove a dead bolt you have to be inside the house to remove the screws that hold the lock in place to get to the inside parts of it.

Do you have a window that is unlocked ? You could remove

the storm window screws and get in that way. Or in such

desperate times depending on how nice of windows you have ...I would pick a window on the back side of the house

no one can see and ooops , wonder how that window got broken? Reach in and unlock the window to get inside.

I would not be locked out of my house by a dead beat tenant.

Your handyman should have some ideals. Keep us updated and good luck. --74.236.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2017 9:24 PM
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The Sheriff doesn't play games. You have like one or two minutes to open up the door. If not, they are on their way to the next Lock-Out.

So having a Licensed locksmith or a handyman who know how to drill, cut, pick or disable a lock is important. Even it it cost $100 to have someone there, it's worth it.

A landlord lady I knew did a stupid thing. She went the day before to "test" her keys on the lock without a 24 hour notice and ended up getting arrested by the police -- illegal entry. The tenant could have killed her!

In my case, I know what the old locks looks like and can tell if they were changed or not. Also I carry a professional battery drill with cobalt, tungsten and hardened drill bits with a templet to know where to drill. Sometimes a tenant will add a device to keep the door from opening. I also carry a battery sawzall with thin metal blades to cut through any additional locks through the door jamb.

I also carry a jack that I can wedge against the floor and lock on the door to force it open. Some tenants will not give up so easily and will try to stay during the lock out. If the front door is something special, then I try a window with the sheriff. --47.156.xx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2017 9:58 PM
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If you can get inside then it is very easy to change out the deadbolts or locks. It is matter of visiting hardware to buy all new locks. Usually when the sheriff arrives most of the time the tenants have left leaving only garbage behind as those type tenants getting evicted is a way of life which is a never ending story. Three to four months later those tenants will be getting evicted all over again. --74.220.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2017 10:16 PM
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Thanks everyone

I am 95% sure tenant is gone. I saw her last week when we were supposed to meet there (for the 20th time) and she would not let us in - she was in her car driving off and said she would come back but of course would not.

So I just want to make sure we can get in right away - I assume that sheriff will allow drilling of locks but was worried maybe not. Thanks for any tips on the locks.

I think the easiest would be the Defiant deadbolt they added downstairs - or bring a small child to crawl through the doggie door!! (it looks open, not sure).

I want to make sure I bring the right tools. I have a handyman meeting me, and he has worked for years for a property manager, so hopefully he knows, but I want to bring backup! Make sure I have the right kind of drill bits, tools, etc.

I have knocked and rang door and quietly tried the key to see if it works - but never made an attempt to push a door open - not that stupid, and the tenant absolutely knows every in and out of LL/eviction laws.

talk about pro tenants - they have so many evictions - story too long here, but the moral to all new LLs is DO NOT WAIT to post and file when rent is late.

I am just helping the owner.

--50.194.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2017 10:17 PM
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This should do it. ;)

Or a crowbar.

Don't forget to sue the deadbeat for any damages caused by entry.

files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2013/01/9420_phatch.jpg

- --47.216.xx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2017 10:26 PM
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LivetheDream

thanks for the smile just as I was logging off to get some sleep!

I don't have a shotgun (or any gun) but it's a nice thought!

--50.194.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 4:14 AM
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Locksmiths work 24-7 =CALL A LOCKSMITH UNTIL YOU GET ONETO COME --96.61.xx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 4:39 AM
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You mean you haven't been inside yet? Unlock before sheriff gets there like yesterday........ Have you looked in mailbox for keys? I've done this since 1986 and even with every window and door lock changed never had to call a lock smith. There is always an open door/unlocked. --74.184.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 5:56 AM
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A freshly charged battery drill with some 3/16 bits, deadbolt or knoblock the drill does most of the work, once you get all the pins and sprngs to fall out twist the lock open with a screwdriver and of course you will have an entire new set of locks keyed alike with you, with some 3/4 plastic pipe to cut window braces with the handy squeeze cutter, it is good to use wooden braces over rear or side doors as those are the ones criminals try using out of view from the road or sidewalk. Empty everything to the curb and lock up before going to lunch. --76.188.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 6:09 AM
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Try before you Pry. (Fireman's Term)

Check All doors and windows, first.

A Surprise will be waiting inside. (Almost Always)

--71.13.xx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 9:23 AM
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Update: After waiting an hour for Marshalls to confirm they could do the eviction and for late movers to arrive, my handyman drilled through the basement deadbolt (cheapest lock) to enter, and Marshalls walked through and let us in the front door (didn't want to damage that one)

of course, halfway through the drilling, I went upstairs to deck and saw they HAD left that deadbolt open since yesterday (I had key to doorknob) but Marshalls had to go in first from downstairs.

House was clear - mostly empty of personal belongings.

Of course they took the landlord's expensive washer and dryer with them.

Amazing how dirty the house is after six months. New carpets are filthy beyond belief. House is dirty, but they didn't do any damage beyond filth and lack of care for the property.

Now, time to get the house ready to sell. This homeowner will probably never be a landlord again.

Made me very grateful for my tenants

(and all the good landlord screening tips I learned from this site)

--50.199.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 9:23 AM
Message:

Update: After waiting an hour for Marshalls to confirm they could do the eviction and for late movers to arrive, my handyman drilled through the basement deadbolt (cheapest lock) to enter, and Marshalls walked through and let us in the front door (didn't want to damage that one)

of course, halfway through the drilling, I went upstairs to deck and saw they HAD left that deadbolt open since yesterday (I had key to doorknob) but Marshalls had to go in first from downstairs.

House was clear - mostly empty of personal belongings.

Of course they took the landlord's expensive washer and dryer with them.

Amazing how dirty the house is after six months. New carpets are filthy beyond belief. House is dirty, but they didn't do any damage beyond filth and lack of care for the property.

Now, time to get the house ready to sell. This homeowner will probably never be a landlord again.

Made me very grateful for my tenants

(and all the good landlord screening tips I learned from this site)

--50.199.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 11:05 AM
Message:

Another happy ending. Glad it worked out. Can you charge theft on the appliances?

--47.216.xx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 1:18 PM
Message:

LivetheDream

I Facetimed the owner after Marshall left, and she was aghast that the nice, expensive frontload LG set was missing.

I guess the tenant figured the landlord owed her for paying 1/2 month's rent after the first eviction (to stay the eviction, unbeknownst to owner)

I called the marshall, who said he would note it in the report, but he is a former cop and it would be hard to charge them with theft

He suggested the owner claim it as part of the civil case.

she still might charge the tenants.

--50.194.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 1:19 PM
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I mean ask the police to charge the tenants with theft. She wants to do that --50.194.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 2:02 PM
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I had an evicted tenant take my brand new washer and dryer. Police wouldn't do anything as it was considered a civil matter because I had given her keys to the property. But I was able to have the appliances tacked onto her judgement. I will never supply new appliances to a tenant until they have been in the unit over a year. Used from here on out. --174.255.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 2:08 PM
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UGGG - Just another reason to include the least expensive washers and dryers in my rentals.

Don't forget to document EVERYTHING with photos.

--131.151.xx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 2:12 PM
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We only buy used appliances. --173.22.xx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 3:22 PM
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Stove is all we supply and have a hefty charge for cleaning. You can't get money for items they steal unless you see them taking it-- in which case I would call the police right then and there. Consequences of calling cops is usually damaged property.

Collecting on damages is a business. If your LLing you better get good at it. There use to be a cartoon years ago about selling dirt-- you know they ain't makin any more dirt. The money in dirt is "going after people who trash your place".

We love when, after 3 or 4 years of thinking they GOT US, all of a sudden the sheriff shows up at their job with a warrant to appear. We are currently collecting 2 to 3K a month from old trashed out places from X tenants. You see once they get a good job they don't want to leave it like the old days-- its good money and who do you think is standing there with those 8X10 glossy pictures of the damages they did when they were young and foolish? Lets not forget 25% collection fee and 15% interest a year and ALL costs to find them. Judgements --- ya gotta lovum!!!! --74.184.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 3:57 PM
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OMG! Thanks for this post. You got me thinking about a past tenant who moved to North Carolina and was Ungarnishable. So I looked her up on face book and she is now working in VA. Garnishment will be started tomorrow. Sorry for your headaches but you made my day! --68.107.xxx.x




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 4:37 PM
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Just to clarify,

today I showed up on behalf of a friend/reluctant landlord during the official eviction of her "professional" tenants who had gone and left a mess.

The homeowner moved out of state and listed the home for sale. The washer and dryer were meant to be sold with the home.

Her listing agent (who was trying to sell the house) also listed it for rent, and accepted these tenants.

Listing agent (who was happy to accept the leasing fee) first rejected the apps then the tenants talked her into it. I believe she told the homeowner that their credit was not great, but they would double the security deposit for protection. From what I understand, in six months she got about 2 months' rent, most of the security deposit (checks bounced) and a lifetime of headaches and lies.

I also think that one or two of the tenants are state employees, so hopefully, she will be able to garnish.

I have 8-10 SFH rentals and great tenants. I choose them myself, screen them carefully (THANK YOU, MR. LL and fellow LLs on these boards) and treat them well (I hope) and only had one eviction, from my very first lease about 15 years ago.

BTW, to note above: yes, The stove is so filthy it might have to be replaced. --50.194.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2017 6:04 PM
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Trashing out and rent arrears go hand in hand together so do not be surprized this happens. Those problem tenants are constantly moving where why bother cleaning. They just wait until the sheriff posts the seven courtesy notice where on the six day they move out leaving only trash behind. If one can locate those tenants then take them to small claims court as they are no longer tenants. At the hearing one can get a judgement for arrears of rent, damage and missing appliances all in one. If they work then the garnishee process can begin. --74.220.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2017 5:17 AM
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In drilling a lock, you drill it using about a 3/16 bit just at the top of the key slot where the slide is located at. You should be able to actually feel the pins releasing as you drill to them. What you are feeling is actually the pics dropping.

Hopefully this will help someone in the future. A new lock is cheap compared to a locksmith --24.239.xx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by don [PA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2017 9:29 AM
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Ray, I just use the highest quality 3/8 inch bit I can buy and drill right into the keyhole. IT JUST CHEWS THE WHOLE MECHANISM UP AND I PULL IT OUT WITH PLIERS AND HIT THE INNER LOCKING SLIDE.

--85.47.xx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Britt [NC]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2017 12:35 PM
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Some states (like NC) require a licensed locksmith to be present at time of eviction. They have bump keys and unless there is mechanical failure they should be able to get in quickly. But as someone stated above many times the doors are unlocked. --99.182.xx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by MYOB [GA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2017 1:15 PM
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If you go an hour or 2 before the Sheriff is scheduled-- there's always one unlocked-- ALWAYS. --74.184.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2017 1:16 PM
Message:

Ray-N-Pa and Don (PA)

thanks for the specifics. I know I could have done it myself, had drills, batteries and an assortment of drill bits (just in case any one did not work) but in the end, asked the handyman to do it.

House will be sold, so LL locks were not the answer.

I didn't want to change locks myself - takes me too long.

But if I ever have to drill a lock again, good to know how to do it. I actually saw some useful videos on YouTube after I originally posted this --50.199.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Jawja [GA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2017 1:16 PM
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Ray-N-Pa and Don (PA)

thanks for the specifics. I know I could have done it myself, had drills, batteries and an assortment of drill bits (just in case any one did not work) but in the end, asked the handyman to do it.

House will be sold, so LL locks were not the answer.

I didn't want to change locks myself - takes me too long.

But if I ever have to drill a lock again, good to know how to do it. I actually saw some useful videos on YouTube after I originally posted this --50.199.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Bob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2017 3:57 PM
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You are a good friend to help with the nasty part of land lording.

I noticed that they are going to sell the house. I am in Georgia and looking for another investment property and would be interested in this property.

Let me know if I can help.

Bob

bbeeler@ymail.com --108.193.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Elisabeth [CA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 1:05 PM
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If the sheriff's already showed up twice for a lock out, can they keep coming back and for how long? --198.72.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 1:48 PM
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Elizabeth, you should start a new thread with your question so that I appears at the top of everybody’s feed. I do not have an answer to your question. I suspect it is dependent on the particular Sheriff’s office. --64.223.xxx.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 9:59 PM
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Jawa,and others, almost two years later, hope you got the problem solved, but you said you had a key for a back door, would have no need to drill a lock or anything else, .........Charlie............ --32.214.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 16, 2019 3:07 AM
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Britt/NC can you point me to the statute that says a licensed locksmith must be there? Thanks. --50.82.xxx.xx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Gayle Warnick [CA]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2019 1:22 AM
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I was served a 60 day notice to quit and I'm locked in the house at 10PM. Landlord changed deadbolt to one that has to have a key to get into the house and out of the house. He locked the deadbolt and went to bed. Not another exit in case of a fire or even earthquake. He only gave a key to Becky, who I thought was my friend. She seems to think that it's ok for just her and him to have the key. She said that she would be able to unlock the door if I needed to be able to get out. What are my rights to have him remove the deadbolt or give me a key. 2 days ago he put 3 four inch screws in the door and said that we had to go through the garage, but he has the interior door to the garage locked. He said it's his house and he can do what he wants. He's got a junkyard in the backyard and the gate that is supposed to be able to get out of the house I could go on and on with the shape that the house and yard are in. Oh, by the way, did I mention the roaches and the dogs that use the carpet as their own crap and pee on. At least 3 to 4 times a day Becky is picking up dog crap.so if you're smart you make sure you're wearing shoes when you go to the bathroom. HELP, Becky;I would still like to be friends with. --174.213.x.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Gayle Warnick [CA]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2019 1:23 AM
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I was served a 60 day notice to quit and I'm locked in the house at 10PM. Landlord changed deadbolt to one that has to have a key to get into the house and out of the house. He locked the deadbolt and went to bed. Not another exit in case of a fire or even earthquake. He only gave a key to Becky, who I thought was my friend. She seems to think that it's ok for just her and him to have the key. She said that she would be able to unlock the door if I needed to be able to get out. What are my rights to have him remove the deadbolt or give me a key. 2 days ago he put 3 four inch screws in the door and said that we had to go through the garage, but he has the interior door to the garage locked. He said it's his house and he can do what he wants. He's got a junkyard in the backyard and the gate that is supposed to be able to get out of the house I could go on and on with the shape that the house and yard are in. Oh, by the way, did I mention the roaches and the dogs that use the carpet as their own crap and pee on. At least 3 to 4 times a day Becky is picking up dog crap.so if you're smart you make sure you're wearing shoes when you go to the bathroom. HELP, Becky;I would still like to be friends with. --174.213.x.xxx




Sheriff Eviction No keys (by Gayle Warnick [CA]) Posted on: Jan 17, 2019 1:23 AM
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I was served a 60 day notice to quit and I'm locked in the house at 10PM. Landlord changed deadbolt to one that has to have a key to get into the house and out of the house. He locked the deadbolt and went to bed. Not another exit in case of a fire or even earthquake. He only gave a key to Becky, who I thought was my friend. She seems to think that it's ok for just her and him to have the key. She said that she would be able to unlock the door if I needed to be able to get out. What are my rights to have him remove the deadbolt or give me a key. 2 days ago he put 3 four inch screws in the door and said that we had to go through the garage, but he has the interior door to the garage locked. He said it's his house and he can do what he wants. He's got a junkyard in the backyard and the gate that is supposed to be able to get out of the house I could go on and on with the shape that the house and yard are in. Oh, by the way, did I mention the roaches and the dogs that use the carpet as their own crap and pee on. At least 3 to 4 times a day Becky is picking up dog crap.so if you're smart you make sure you're wearing shoes when you go to the bathroom. HELP, Becky;I would still like to be friends with. --174.213.x.xxx



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