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Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Jan 22, 2017 1:21 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Jason [PA]) Jan 22, 2017 1:34 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Jan 22, 2017 1:35 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 22, 2017 1:37 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by cjo'h [CT]) Jan 22, 2017 1:38 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by cjo'h [CT]) Jan 22, 2017 1:43 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Deanna [TX]) Jan 22, 2017 2:12 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Homer [TX]) Jan 22, 2017 2:27 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Jan 22, 2017 2:30 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Frank [NJ]) Jan 22, 2017 2:40 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by #22 [MO]) Jan 22, 2017 2:41 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Jason [MI]) Jan 22, 2017 2:49 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Ken [NY]) Jan 22, 2017 2:52 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Homer [TX]) Jan 22, 2017 3:08 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by plenty [MO]) Jan 22, 2017 3:11 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Sisco [MO]) Jan 22, 2017 3:26 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Jan 22, 2017 3:29 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Nicole [PA]) Jan 22, 2017 4:21 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Richard [MI]) Jan 22, 2017 4:47 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by razorback_tim [AR]) Jan 22, 2017 5:19 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Mickie [OH]) Jan 22, 2017 5:20 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Tim [IN]) Jan 22, 2017 5:34 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by MikeA [TX]) Jan 22, 2017 5:56 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Laura [MD]) Jan 22, 2017 6:39 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Jan 22, 2017 6:56 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Janet [KY]) Jan 22, 2017 9:26 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Rocking Bear [FL]) Jan 22, 2017 10:33 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Hippd [KY]) Jan 23, 2017 7:28 AM
       Spend my $ for me (by Bit [IN]) Jan 23, 2017 8:09 AM
       Spend my $ for me (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 23, 2017 10:16 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 23, 2017 10:16 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 23, 2017 10:16 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by James [GA]) Jan 24, 2017 1:03 AM
       Spend my $ for me (by elliot [RI]) Jan 24, 2017 5:21 AM
       Spend my $ for me (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 24, 2017 7:26 AM
       Spend my $ for me (by Chris [CT]) Jan 24, 2017 5:10 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by cjo'h [CT]) Jan 24, 2017 7:05 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Dave [MO]) Jan 24, 2017 7:19 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by Cat [WI]) Jan 25, 2017 10:07 PM
       Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2017 4:05 AM


Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 1:21 PM
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In a few weeks, I will have roughly $40,000 coming in from a flip that I can do with whatever. I have a few things to look at and am going to present some #'s for you folks to chew on. What would you do?

I could do another flip and create another 20,30,40k from this $, then rinse and repeat.

I could use it to fix up my current project without getting a mortgage and have around 20k left over.

I could pay off some of my wifes school loans. A combo of loans totaling 40k would save us around $228 a month.

I could pay off 2 small rental mortgages totaling $22,000 and have $204 freed up a month with some $ left over. Both houses are worth 75-80k combined.

I could pay off one rental with a mortgage of $36,000 and free up around $200 a month ad have 6k leftover. House is worth around $115,000.

I could pay off one house with a mortgage of $41,000 and free up $326 a month. (this is one house I've been leaning towards selling, its worth $100,000)

Bury it in the desert?

Go to Vegas?

Just looking for some ideas and different perspectives. My biggest concern with paying off some of the bigger mortgage is that once the money is spent, its years to get it back with no money left to do flips for a while.

What would you do? --50.32.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Jason [PA]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 1:34 PM
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You could give me the money, then you won't have any stress over this decision --152.208.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 1:35 PM
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I meant to put that as an option Jason, I just forgot! --50.32.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 1:37 PM
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You are rather young so I am inclined to believe you will want to grow the business. At the same time, the market place has been good for a while and I tend to believe we are closer to a market turning point than we are form a real estate upswing.

Around here lots of folks are doing flips......and that scares me when so many new faces enter the game. Since flipping is the rage, how about locating some whole sales to sell to the flippers?

Its that or you can reinvest the money using the second most popular ground hog in Pa.

--24.239.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 1:38 PM
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NE, rather than pay off those school loans, why don't you get something like that Mall that went for $105 and turn it into a school.Looks like there's more money in that, than doing flips or any kind of work,for that matter. I'm sure you could teach them a few things? Why not? Anyway! ...............Charlie..............................................NE School of ????? --174.199.x.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 1:43 PM
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No don't give it to Jason,no point in having him worry about it? ...... ....... ...... Charlie................................ --174.199.x.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 2:12 PM
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I'd pay off personal stuff first, and then pay off rental stuff second. --96.46.xxx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 2:27 PM
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Is the interest on the school loans tax deductible? I know your rent house mortgage interest is. If school loan is not deductible I would pay them off. They appear to me that they are a source of a burden, you have mentioned them a few times in the past. --75.141.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 2:30 PM
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The interest on the school loans are tax deductible. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 2:40 PM
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all kidding aside I will suggest you putting say 10 to 20K into buying [and holding] into real-hold- in-your-hand gold.

SOLID gold is harder to get, but 14 & 18K gold jewelry [the kind with no stones], i.e. chains/bracelets can very often be bought at just under the current melt value.

there are many auctions in your state and with a little education you could build up a solid stock. Right nowe the price has been a bit on the low side and [IMO] there will be inflation and subsequent weakening of the dollar which will result in gold prices rising.

If necessary it is pretty easily converted back to cash. --71.172.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 2:41 PM
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Interesting choices.

What matters most is what's missing from the info.

What are your short and long term goals and plans? Without working this info into the equation, tough to make the call on what's best.

--173.26.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Jason [MI]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 2:49 PM
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If was me, another flip --70.194.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 2:52 PM
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I wouldn't pay off the student loans,if anything I would buy another rental and let that pay the student loans every month till the loans are gone and the rental is still there free and clear --24.25.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 3:08 PM
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I think Ken has the best answer. But another house and use the rent proceeds to pay the student loans. --75.141.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 3:11 PM
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Lunch kitty!

Oh boy its fun to dream of all the possibilities. Can't go wrong with any of them! --66.87.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 3:26 PM
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I am all for being debt free. That said, on this forum you report on very profitable flips, and you report on not so great rental experiences.

I advise keep your $40k at the ready for flips, and extract yourself from your current collection of rentals.

If you are intent on being in the rental biz, redeploy into a better rental market. --72.172.xxx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 3:29 PM
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Sisco, I don't mind my rentals. I have one borderline dud im debating on selling. Other than that, I'm happy with where they are. Better is always better of course. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 4:21 PM
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since real estate is your business, I would never take what I'd classify as "working capital" and payoff student loans. I'd keep purchasing & financing your flips or use it as down payments on buy & hold rentals... in other words, I'd make it keep making money. Paying off the student loans will only generate you $228 a month ... can't do much investing with that. --72.95.xx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 4:47 PM
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Ok, here's what I'd do.

First, make sure I'd have 12 to 18 months of all expenses set aside. Half in cash or equivalents half in something I could cash out in under 3 months.

Then I"d assess my local area as to how flips and rentals are doing. How much competition, etc.

I'd use whatever was left over to do more flips, using max leverage and as little of my own money as possible. Much better to pay a few dollars in interest than put your personal funds at risk.

Then I'd consider larger projects if they are feasible.

I might also consider reducing dependance on partners. Why give half to a partner instead of just borrowing the money at lower rates? You could use the money to satisfy the banks when they want you to have "skin in the game". --23.121.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 5:19 PM
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If I were in your position I would pursue more flips to generate cash. When you have enough cash to do 2 flips all cash then start paying off notes or pay cash for more rentals with the funds above that amount. My 2 cents worth.... --70.178.x.xx




Spend my $ for me (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 5:20 PM
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I don"t know your market but I think I'did take a porion and pay on the school loans but keep enough to rinse and repeat until the school loans are paid off. Then do the same with a few rentals and/or grow. --70.194.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Tim [IN]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 5:34 PM
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All options listed have pluses/minuses... one thing you didn't touch on was reserves? Please don't include loc... I still remember 2008 when real estate investor got them yanked by the bank. Just answer vague... comfortable? Could use a little more if it pours? Etc... that could help in your decision --166.137.xx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 5:56 PM
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Another flip if you can find a good deal. Doing this would allow you to pay off 2 of the other debts. --74.196.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 6:39 PM
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As other have said you are still young. I would keep X% liquid to make sure you have a well funded stuff happens fund. With the rest i would put it back into the business to create more $$$.

Since you have success with flips, I would be inclined to rinse and repeat. As far as your wifes student loans what is the effective interest rate (interest rate LESS tax savings) and compare that with the rate of return on a flip.

Paying off a mortgage would create a 5% ((or whatever the mortgage rate is) LESS tax savings ) rate of return/savings.

And remember if $40,000 invested in a flip produces a $20,000 NET profit that is a 50% rate of return. That is the beauty of good debt. --108.48.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 6:56 PM
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Dave Ramsey would say pay off the loans. If you can reinvest and make another $20k, how about doing that then taking half that profit toward the loans. Keep building the business, so long as the lans are covered.

Or you could buy a pretty nice Rolex.

And gift it to me. ;-)

--47.216.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Janet [KY]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 9:26 PM
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Dave Ramsey would say make sure you have an

emergency fund set aside which I agree with.

Pay off some of your smaller debts to free up

more cash to buy more rentals if that is what you

love to do. --74.236.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Rocking Bear [FL]) Posted on: Jan 22, 2017 10:33 PM
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Take half for you and keep the rest for flipping, unless you can do a few without partners then just keep flipping and building bank. --71.55.xxx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by Hippd [KY]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2017 7:28 AM
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I can't comprehend how you're making 40k out in the boonies in low income areas after closing costs and capital gains on a flip. God bless, I know I'm jealous. Any property out here under 150k with those types of potential gains are bidded up through the roof. Only gains I see like that are on properties with a lot of foundation issues. I now have my basement guy/structural engineer on speed dial these days to look at houses.

To answer your question I would buy a small sfh rental outright with that cash. Put any rehab on 0% interest 18 month credit cards and rent it out. The first year will pay the credit cards off. Probably would put some money into Amazon as well. I hear they're going to revolutionize(in a bad way) grocery shopping as we know it. Gratz on the great returns.

--73.198.xxx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by Bit [IN]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2017 8:09 AM
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I'm pretty sure you already have a emergency fund worked out so from my perspective, like others have mentioned, I would use the money to fund more rehabs and keep churning that back into more rehabs to build more capital and look at taking a % (like 10% - 25%) to get any personal debt paid off like the student loans.

I wouldn't want to use a large chunk of capital outright unless I knew I could continuously generate more capital on a regular basis (wouldn't want to kill the business momentum), so personally like the idea of using the capital to fund more deals and use a portion to pay the personal debt off ASAP.

I really hate any form of non-business debt. --74.130.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2017 10:16 PM
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NE,

As your business gets larger you need larger savings to support it.

Personal emergemcy fund AND a large cushion for the biz.

Caution with consolidating loans. Those companies do it because it because they make money doing it - from your wallet. Keep your pencil sharp.

At your level you do not need money to make money with RE.

And having a fat wad of cash in the bank gives you a new level of confidence when negotiating - you are no longer desperate and the sellers sense that - They sense you don't NEED their property and can walk away.

Cash in the bank brings deals to you. Opportunites come to you. - Earl Nightingale

BRAD

--73.146.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2017 10:16 PM
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NE,

As your business gets larger you need larger savings to support it.

Personal emergemcy fund AND a large cushion for the biz.

Caution with consolidating loans. Those companies do it because it because they make money doing it - from your wallet. Keep your pencil sharp.

At your level you do not need money to make money with RE.

And having a fat wad of cash in the bank gives you a new level of confidence when negotiating - you are no longer desperate and the sellers sense that - They sense you don't NEED their property and can walk away.

Cash in the bank brings deals to you. Opportunites come to you. - Earl Nightingale

BRAD

--73.146.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2017 10:16 PM
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NE,

As your business gets larger you need larger savings to support it.

Personal emergemcy fund AND a large cushion for the biz.

Caution with consolidating loans. Those companies do it because it because they make money doing it - from your wallet. Keep your pencil sharp.

At your level you do not need money to make money with RE.

And having a fat wad of cash in the bank gives you a new level of confidence when negotiating - you are no longer desperate and the sellers sense that - They sense you don't NEED their property and can walk away.

Cash in the bank brings deals to you. Opportunites come to you. - Earl Nightingale

BRAD

--73.146.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by James [GA]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2017 1:03 AM
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NE - I wouldn't pay off the loans, RE or student. Like sid said, at worst put it in the market (I would dollar cost average it right now however).... --185.17.xxx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by elliot [RI]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2017 5:21 AM
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Why not paying down your primary residence loan and create a nice equity and use that as line of credit for next flip?

I am doing that right now.. Of course after ear mark enough for the rental biz.. --173.76.xx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2017 7:26 AM
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With all of the debt you listed, I would keep the "cash" on hand to cover any future expenses, vacancies, etc.... --47.151.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2017 5:10 PM
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As long as your rentals are cash flowing and the mortgages are low interest fixed I'd keep the money rolling doing flips.

Generate a nice pile of cash. If you have a lot of cash you can make money no matter what happens with the market.

--69.117.xxx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2017 7:05 PM
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I think I already sent you another response but the Omadhan obliterated it,I won't respond tonight, but sometime tomorrow,Its a few minutes after10pm and raining cats and dogs,the wind has subsided somewhat,so I'll retire, a little early for me ,I know, Goodnight,........................................Charlie.................................. --174.199.x.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2017 7:19 PM
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I would take the 40K and do another flip to make 20K, 30K, 40K.

--174.126.xx.xxx




Spend my $ for me (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2017 10:07 PM
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I guess I am a little confused on the flipping. Why would you take $40K that you will have free and clear and invest in another flip that you could make 20k-40k on? If you invest 40k and make 20k on the flip, how have you made money? It seems to be a 20K loss to me, not including the time and money spent on the 40K investment.

I am not a flipper so maybe I am misunderstanding how it works.

Personally I would not do a flip with it. What happens if the market drops unexpectedly and all of the sudden, you have to sell the flip at a loss.

Personally I would pay off the student loans and put any extra you have in the bank to use for emergencies. An extra $228 is not a lot of money generated BUT it is a personal expense and even though it may be deductible,I think that sometimes expenses that you can deduct from income, is helpful.

I paid off some rentals once and then really missed that interest that I had been deducting and had to pay more income tax.

As stated, I will always pay off personal expenses first(home mortgage, car, student loans, etc) before rental expenses but I am sure that others will disagree with my thought process. --50.50.xxx.xx




Spend my $ for me (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2017 4:05 AM
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Cat. If I did another flip and made $20,000, I would then have 20 + 40. --50.32.xxx.xxx





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