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Rude applicants (by S i d [MO]) Oct 21, 2020 10:16 AM
       (by Donna [PA]) Oct 21, 2020 10:23 AM
       (by David [MI]) Oct 21, 2020 10:25 AM
       (by Robert J [CA]) Oct 21, 2020 10:37 AM
       (by Lynn [MA]) Oct 21, 2020 11:25 AM
       (by RB [MI]) Oct 21, 2020 11:37 AM
       (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 21, 2020 11:51 AM
       (by DJ [VA]) Oct 21, 2020 12:01 PM
       (by cjl [NY]) Oct 21, 2020 12:28 PM
       (by WMH [NC]) Oct 21, 2020 1:27 PM
       (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 21, 2020 1:40 PM
       (by David [MI]) Oct 21, 2020 2:04 PM
       (by Allym [NJ]) Oct 21, 2020 2:11 PM
       (by J [FL]) Oct 21, 2020 2:14 PM
       (by S i d [MO]) Oct 21, 2020 3:07 PM
       (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 21, 2020 4:14 PM
       (by dave [CA]) Oct 21, 2020 4:41 PM
       (by Hoosier [IN]) Oct 21, 2020 9:07 PM
       (by melinda [MD]) Oct 21, 2020 11:21 PM
       (by Small potatoes [NY]) Oct 22, 2020 12:01 AM
       (by Small potatoes [NY]) Oct 22, 2020 12:01 AM
       (by J [FL]) Oct 22, 2020 6:21 AM
       (by GKARL [PA]) Oct 22, 2020 7:48 AM
       (by plenty [MO]) Oct 22, 2020 9:46 AM
       (by WMH [NC]) Oct 22, 2020 9:55 AM
       (by Plenty [MO]) Oct 22, 2020 6:46 PM
       (by J.R. [OK]) Oct 22, 2020 9:12 PM
       (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 23, 2020 6:45 PM

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Rude applicants (by S i d [MO]) Oct 21, 2020 10:16 AM
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Heh, they screen themselves! Here's how I handled this one:

Me: "Good morning. I just got to see the finalized report this morning. Is there any income other than the $XXX listed on the application?" (it was only about 2x the monthly rent)

App: "No."

App: "I told you."

App: "I have good credit."

(She sent me those responses in three separate texts within 30 seconds of each other. Yes, she did say something about it LAST WEEK on the phone, but not on her application.)

Me: "My apologies. I have reviewed several applications in the past 2 days. My memory gets a little foggy at times..."

App: "Since your memory so foggy refund my money because you haven't done anything for me"

Me: "I have candled your application at your request. Unfortunately, on the application you accepted the terms that application fees are non-refundable. Best wishes on your search."

(Blocked number....Click the "Denied" button...Emailed the "Sorry you were not approved, for more info please send self-addressed stamped envelope to PO BOX....yadda yadda)

NEXT!

--107.216.xxx.xxx




Rude applicants (by Donna [PA]) Oct 21, 2020 10:23 AM
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I had one last dangle the "I have guarenteed income "

He refused to disclose any income or the source of income. It was so bizarre. He said I was difficult. I said see ya later.

He has had a looking to rent on various websites for at least six months with a list of his demands before he will even consider signing a lease.

God bless the landlord that gets stuck with him! --99.203.xx.xxx




Rude applicants (by David [MI]) Oct 21, 2020 10:25 AM
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oof. I had to deal with stupid conversations like that up until a couple years ago. I upped my pre-screening to include credit score (720) and only allow W2 income (4000 a month, even for $1100 rent). But even before the pre-screen, I spent a few minutes on court searches and don't bother to contact them if bad results.

So this year, the only unqualified apps I get are people who suddenly disappear after I initiate the credit report.

no more stupid --50.4.xxx.x




Rude applicants (by Robert J [CA]) Oct 21, 2020 10:37 AM
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Ever since I made a similar mistake dealing with applicants, I take great notes when talking to someone over the phone or in person. AND at each showing I have handouts with the description of the rental with pictures.

But when someone hands me a completed application, I:

a) Compare their driver license with the spelling of their name, DOB, address, DL number on the application.

b) Compare their stated income with their pay stubs

c) Check their bank statement with the bank information on the application.

IF see if they make 3 - times the rent as income and if they have a vehicle loan and pay the payments are.

If the rent is $1,000 a month and they make $3,200 a month but have a $500 car payment. I factor that and the other cost's of living. Since they won't have enough money to live on, taxes and all, I will reject them even before I'll run their credit or take a processing fee...

Credit or no credit, someone that doesn't have extra income and banks some of it, to me is a problem waiting to happen. --47.155.xx.xxx




Rude applicants (by Lynn [MA]) Oct 21, 2020 11:25 AM
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Unfortunately there are too many people that don't make enough money and they try to bully their way through.

I had a guy last summer, told me he made all this money and that he was a consultant. When I saw his bank statements all his income was covid relief funds. His 2018 taxes showed a negative income. No way Jose. --66.30.xx.xx




Rude applicants (by RB [MI]) Oct 21, 2020 11:37 AM
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Even with a good screening process,

there is still a gamble in the (rental) game,

that never goes away.

Screen x3. (Time and Effort) --199.192.xxx.x




Rude applicants (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 21, 2020 11:51 AM
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I prefer when they disqualify themselves. --24.101.xxx.xx




Rude applicants (by DJ [VA]) Oct 21, 2020 12:01 PM
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Next time, just don't say you are "foggy" or anything else that could possible be used against you.

I like the "cancelled your application at your request". : )

--70.160.xxx.xxx




Rude applicants (by cjl [NY]) Oct 21, 2020 12:28 PM
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I don't know if I said this in a different post but it really is funny how they disqualify themselves.

I had one just a week or so ago that came right out on a $750 apartment and stated "I make enough money to pay the rent - that's not a problem..." When I asked what his income was monthly he said "$800". I asked him again "is that your budget for your rental or how much you make?" He said that is his total income monthly. No other support or assistance. NEXT!

Some don't seem to like the pre-screening questions for sure ... they get bent out of shape for sure .. .as if "who are you to ask me these questions?" Ha. --67.242.xx.xx




Rude applicants (by WMH [NC]) Oct 21, 2020 1:27 PM
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I made it one of my yearly goals a few years ago to stop saying "I'm sorry" or "I apologize!" to any tenant (or anyone!) for anything that is not our fault - and to replace it where possible with "Thank you!"

AC went out? "Thank you for letting us know!" Kitchen sink leaking? Ditto. Didn't fill out the form correctly and got denied? "Thank you for your continued interest, but your application does not qualify for this unit."

I did have someone tell me not too long that they had things come up - medical bills - and might be late, or "maybe they could borrow from their IRA." I responded "Oh I can certainly understand medical issues! I've had quite a few this year myself. The IRA loan sounds like a good idea." They paid by the 5th.

Sometimes I have to stop and really think how to word a response but I have had about a 99% success rate with this little personal goal. It's worse if I'm speaking because it's way too automatic to say I'm sorry than it should be. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Rude applicants (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 21, 2020 1:40 PM
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I really don't understand why they do not realize or catch on that this is not a good thing to do. Maybe sometimes it works for them but I don't see how.

Do you automatically send that email any time that you deny someone?

Just out of curiosity, what if she sends you a self addressed stamped envelope and request the reason?

What would you put as your reason?

I know that it is highly unlikely but I can't help but wonder. --73.120.xx.xxx




Rude applicants (by David [MI]) Oct 21, 2020 2:04 PM
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I like how zillow gives applicant option to include their profile with credit score, income, job, etc. Just swipe left all day long .... --50.4.xxx.x




Rude applicants (by Allym [NJ]) Oct 21, 2020 2:11 PM
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I don't take an application fee so I can easily reject someone without guilt or vengeance from the applicant --71.104.xx.xxx




Rude applicants (by J [FL]) Oct 21, 2020 2:14 PM
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Donna, he might have been a drug dealer. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Rude applicants (by S i d [MO]) Oct 21, 2020 3:07 PM
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6 x 6,

Ever since we started using online applications I've just sent the email. Never once, in 15 years of LLing, have I had someone send me an envelope. If she did, though, this one is simple. She withdrew her application and her income was insufficient even if she hadn't. My simple response would be "Income insufficient; application withdrawn at applicant's request."

WMH,

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the tip! --107.216.xxx.xxx




Rude applicants (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 21, 2020 4:14 PM
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Thank you Sid. --73.120.xx.xxx




Rude applicants (by dave [CA]) Oct 21, 2020 4:41 PM
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its not just tenant applicants, its everyone these days.

too many people seem to have been raised in the forests by wolves. animals do as animals do.

we live in an aspirational and entitlement world where it is common and acceptable to bully or fake it till ya make it,....if ya ever make it at all.

I want it,....i'm entitled to it,....and who the xxxk are

you ?

some of it is cultural, some of it environmental,...some of it is just nasty, mean, obnoxious, s_it heads.

I try real hard to stay out of their way, and dispatch the one I have to deal with as promptly as possible.

--172.250.xx.xxx




Rude applicants (by Hoosier [IN]) Oct 21, 2020 9:07 PM
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Good story Sid. Too bad every applicant doesn’t have a rudeness score on their forehead so we could use it as an objective screening parameter lol. --99.92.xxx.xxx




Rude applicants (by melinda [MD]) Oct 21, 2020 11:21 PM
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It is interesting when that rude applicants think that their behavior is going to help them obtain the rental. I especially enjoy it when later on (maybe even years later!) they contact me to see a vacancy. They get nowhere with me. --24.233.xxx.xx




Rude applicants (by Small potatoes [NY]) Oct 22, 2020 12:01 AM
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Sid, like wmh i stopped saying sorry a few years ago. Even if I'm at fault, I'll go with I'll correct my error or somthing like that. Now i strategically use "my apologies" when I need to massage someone. When I meet prospects and I'm 'foggy' on the details i say i interact with a lot of applicants, can you refresh my memory. Same thing w "no" i say it's nothing personal, this is business and becsuse tenants before you smoked/did xyx this is our policy. --99.203.xx.xx




Rude applicants (by Small potatoes [NY]) Oct 22, 2020 12:01 AM
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Sid, like wmh i stopped saying sorry a few years ago. Even if I'm at fault, I'll go with I'll correct my error or somthing like that. Now i strategically use "my apologies" when I need to massage someone. When I meet prospects and I'm 'foggy' on the details i say i interact with a lot of applicants, can you refresh my memory. Same thing w "no" i say it's nothing personal, this is business and becsuse tenants before you smoked/did xyx this is our policy. --99.203.xx.xx




Rude applicants (by J [FL]) Oct 22, 2020 6:21 AM
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"It is interesting when that rude applicants think that their behavior is going to help them obtain the rental."

I think it's the opposite sometimes. They know they aren't qualified and won't get it so they take a parting shot at the landlord. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Rude applicants (by GKARL [PA]) Oct 22, 2020 7:48 AM
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Generally, unless they lie on the prescreen, folks with insufficient income don't get as far as the application. By the time I get done prescreening, I'm down to only a few showings and applications. I use an on line service for the application as well. --209.122.xx.xxx




Rude applicants (by plenty [MO]) Oct 22, 2020 9:46 AM
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WHM. Also not saying Im Sorry. Currently working in the word Help. Use to say "can i help you?" (Or can't help you") Think about that statement. Changing it to "how can I assist?" Or similar. Avoid Help. Was finding i was doin all the helping and they were not responsible. Assisting is just that-would you like a suggestion? A resource? Coming along side. Not shifting responsibility! --99.203.xx.xx




Rude applicants (by WMH [NC]) Oct 22, 2020 9:55 AM
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Plenty, I guess I don't offer help much LOL! Where would that come up? Can you give me an example?

Thinking about and honestly can't come up with an example for myself. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Rude applicants (by Plenty [MO]) Oct 22, 2020 6:46 PM
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For current residents. "My sink is backing up" instead of helping I assist. Instead of joing in with " i can help you" i am responding with "how can i assist you?" --99.203.xxx.xx




Rude applicants (by J.R. [OK]) Oct 22, 2020 9:12 PM
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Long ago I read the book How to Talk to Kids So Kids Will Listen and Listen So Kids Will Talk. The book has great ideas on how to talk to anyone, not just kids. And I find that it works well with tenants.

I recently had someone messaging me about a property telling me that my pet fee (of $25/month per pet) was greedy. And that I could be charging $10/month. I found it a little funny that they were okay with me charging for pets, just not okay with the amount I'm asking. Some people get rude about the pet fees but it seems most understand that it comes with having pets and are fine paying it. --68.0.xxx.xx




Rude applicants (by 6x6 [TN]) Oct 23, 2020 6:45 PM
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I might need to read that book. I wonder if it works if you talk to yourself. I spend entirely too much time alone. --73.120.xx.xxx



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