tile floors? (by shan [fl]) April 9, 2002 08:24:10
RE: tile floors? (by I-wa [Wi]) April 9, 2002 08:59:33
RE: tile floors? (by Tom [TX]) April 9, 2002 09:25:42
RE: tile floors? (by shan [fl]) April 9, 2002 09:26:22
RE: tile floors? (by Kathi [OH]) April 9, 2002 09:36:37
RE: tile floors? (by Kathi [OH]) April 9, 2002 09:43:36
RE: tile floors? (by Steve [TN]) April 9, 2002 11:20:37
RE: tile floors? (by Mike [DE]) April 9, 2002 14:57:38
RE: tile floors? (by LL [WA]) April 9, 2002 15:04:48
RE: tile floors? (by KW [AR]) April 9, 2002 15:41:21
RE: tile floors? (by Dan [NY]) April 9, 2002 18:03:37
RE: tile floors? (by Lori [KY]) April 10, 2002 04:55:29
RE: tile floors? (by shan [fl]) April 10, 2002 10:22:46

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tile floors? (by shan [fl])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 08:24:10
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Currently have a vacancy that was supposed to be "no pets" allowed but the smell says otherwise. This WAS a new carpet that came w/the house but not exactly good for rental [very light champaign pink...i know!]. We are thinking of just pulling it all out and putting in tile...either ceramic or a nice vinyl that looks like tile. Do these hold up? Is it worth the additional cost [installation would run 2-3x's that of carpet] or should we just clean the carpet professionally until it completely wears out and then overhaul? Does anyone have brands to recommend either for or against? We plan on holding this house for the long term. 209.208.44.135



RE: tile floors? (by I-wa [Wi])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 08:59:33
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I've been replacing all my carpets with either ceramic tiles or hardwood floors.

Ceramic tile insalatin isn't rocket science. I taught myself.

Doing it yourself makes it cheaper than carpet. It is a bit of work. 216.127.220.116




RE: tile floors? (by Tom [TX])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 09:25:42
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Do you even put tile in the bedrooms? Do most renters like that? 155.64.245.83



RE: tile floors? (by shan [fl])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 09:26:22
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how long did it take you [say on average for a typical size room]. I confess that being new to this that I've done more in the past year than I would have ever thought possible...painting-okay, but replacing cabinets, sinks, toilets[!!], doors, and more. Well, in all fairness--my husband did more than me but hey!!! I'm feeling like a regular handy-woman! Is it a two person [or less] job? The house is CB w/ a concrete slab so not sure if that would be easier or more difficult...I'm thinking easier? 209.208.44.135



RE: tile floors? (by Kathi [OH])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 09:36:37
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64.12.104.37



RE: tile floors? (by Kathi [OH])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 09:43:36
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Sorry for the double post. Fingers hit the wwrong key.

I have installed many ceramic tile floors in kitchens and baths. I would not install one in living rooms ro bedrooms in northern ohio. However, I think that in florida they would be a plus. Installation is not dificult. Since your home is no a slab, you will not even have to install tile backer board first. The tiles can be installed directly on top of the cement slab using thinset mortar. If you buy a wet saw (available at home depot for just under $100 the job will be even easier. A single person can lay the floor. However, it is much easier with 2 persons. One person applies the mortar to the floor with a notched trowel. The second person hands tiles to person 1 and cuts any tiles needing cutting. You may wish to purchase a how to book at your local home improvement store or get one from the library. Good luck. 64.12.104.37




RE: tile floors? (by Steve [TN])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 11:20:37
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I've done ceramic tile. Self taught. You get a really nice floor, but it is quite a bit of work.

I found that the hardest parts were (1) learning to trowel out the morter quickly and smoothly, (2) keeping the lines straight, and (3) cutting any kind of curve in the tiles. I found that grouting was really pretty easy. Grouting is really a good job for 2 people. One person grouts a section, then other wipes it down (several times) while the first grouts the next section. Done in no time.

It took me much longer to do than I anticipated. However, by the end, I could do it pretty fast. There was just a fairly steep hill for me before it became easy. I started with a really *large* family room. It was too much to start with. Do a bath or a kitchen first.

Use colored grout (not white) so that dirt won't show. You can seal the grout to keep dir out, but that is real tedious and has to be redone every 6 months or so. 198.151.12.20




RE: tile floors? (by Mike [DE])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 14:57:38
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Delaware climate is much colder than Florida, but I always install ceramic tile in my kitchens and baths here & keep a spare case locked away from the tenants (for future broken tiles). In one house that I rehabbed in '91, I've only replaced 2 tiles due to damage. The floors still look great & grout has held up well. Better than installing vinyl.

Friends of mine that live in Palm Beach used tile in all their rooms. Made cleaning a snap. Just a sweep of a broom to get rid of dirt & sand. Area rugs added warmth to the living and dining rooms. Great look for Florida. 56.0.96.17




RE: tile floors? (by LL [WA])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 15:04:48
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The other plus with ceramic tile is that many people don't like the dander, smells and dust mites that get trapped in carpet.

People with allergies or children with asthma would probably prefer ceramic tile to carpet any day. 64.12.102.48




RE: tile floors? (by KW [AR])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 15:41:21
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Ceramic Tile will save money over the long haul. Don't buy the elcheapo less than a 1/4 inch tile. You get what you pay for. Use a good grade of thinset (mortar) and grout. Natural grey grout remains colorfast the longest and is easier to match when making repairs. Thinset with liquid acrylic additive will bond to plywood that is properly secured and supported thus avoiding the backerboard issue. DIYers can install ceramic for less money than having carpet installed professionally. Your Tenant can provide their own area rug! Tile ALL traffic areas such as hallways and entrances to avoid the carpet with the trail worn in it.

If you build any units from the ground up---construct them on a slab. SCORE the concrete while it is "green" and stain/finish. We did a six-plex Townhouse unit that way and the Tenants have yet to figure out a way to tear the kitchen,dining,bathroom floors!! The layout of the units left 12ft wide carpeted areas that allow for the use of remnants. Being a landlord and a Floor store owner, I can tell you this has saved a tremendous amount of material and labor. 216.152.15.110




RE: tile floors? (by Dan [NY])
Posted on: April 9, 2002 18:03:37
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I recently put vinyl tile in one of my kitchen floors. I thought it was fairly easy to do. The winter months are just about over and the tiles are holding up great! No problems. Make sure you pull up all the early tile, try to get down to the floor board if you can. Be sure to fill in any gouge marks, scuff the floor and start. Some start in the middle of the room, I started in the door way. Very inexpensive to do. Good luck! 24.161.61.111



RE: tile floors? (by Lori [KY])
Posted on: April 10, 2002 04:55:29
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Learn to work with and lay ceramic. It's not hard, all you need is a good tile saw, about 100.00 at Lowe's. Tile is durable and beautiful.

We tile entries, kitchens and baths. We also do all our bath walls up 4 ft and do the tub surrounds in tile. We even build our own kitchen counter-tops with ceramic and create gorgeous custom patterned counter tops. We've learned to do two toned floors on diagonal that get the houses rented the instant the wife looks at them.

It returns a good price when you have the properties appraised. Our tile work is always mentioned in the appraisals.

Also learn how to refinish hardwood if you have it in any rentals (what does this property have?), another equity booster when the properties are appraised plus gives you a floor that is less expensive over the years than laying carpet every 3-4 years or having it cleaned over and over with the attendent smell issues that you mentioned.

Beautiful floors and well painted attractive walls and trim in warm colors will rent your properties faster than houses with worn carpet and apartment white flat paint walls. 64.12.107.46




RE: tile floors? (by shan [fl])
Posted on: April 10, 2002 10:22:46
Message:
Thanks everyone! I'm totally "hyped" about trying out the tile now! As a matter of fact, thinking of the kitchen backsplash bit too since that seems to need repainting a lot. Grey grout [sp?] and quality ceramic with extra boxes for repairs...got it! 209.208.8.194



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